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Odds & Sods (aka Non Modelling) => Got any good Links put them here => Topic started by: Nick on October 11, 2022, 03:21:54 PM

Title: Ships lost in WW2
Post by: Nick on October 11, 2022, 03:21:54 PM
I found a map of all the ships known to have been lost in the Second World War. Quite sad and very sobering when you see the numbers.

https://mapsterman.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/fe88b5e18c6443c7afaf6e32f8432687
Title: Re: Ships lost in WW2
Post by: Rick Lowe on October 11, 2022, 09:08:50 PM
Interesting, thanks.
Title: Re: Ships lost in WW2
Post by: The Chaos on October 12, 2022, 01:09:38 AM
Thanks great
Title: Re: Ships lost in WW2
Post by: zenrat on October 12, 2022, 02:40:30 AM
What interests me is that there's nothing sunk on the South Coast of Australia.  Japanese subs obvs never got along there.
Two sunk on the West Coast and I knew what they were before clicking on them - Sydney and Kormoran story is well known.
Title: Re: Ships lost in WW2
Post by: Leading Observer on October 12, 2022, 03:49:51 AM
I was surprised by how few were sunk along the West Coast of the USA
Title: Re: Ships lost in WW2
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 12, 2022, 04:24:00 AM
Something screwed up with that map.....

I looked near me and found to my amazement that a German cargo ship had apparently been sunk by shelling in Cardiff Harbour in April 1941!

It was the 'Bernhard Schulte' according to the map, so I looked it up and the ship had a chequered  history to say the least, but it really sank off the Lofoten islands but was refloated. She was eventually scrapped in 1966 under the name 'Deneb', so goodness knows where Cardiff came into the equation. :-\
Title: Re: Ships lost in WW2
Post by: scooter on October 12, 2022, 06:33:41 AM
Quote from: Leading Observer on October 12, 2022, 03:49:51 AMI was surprised by how few were sunk along the West Coast of the USA

IJN submarine doctrine was, IIRC, for the subs to be adjuncts to the main battle line, with very little independent cruising.  Unlike Dönitz and Nimitz's guidance.

Besides, think of how much food, fuel, torpedoes, and other consumables each sub would have to be loaded with just to make the trip from Japan to the West Coast, for an extended stay and not some wartime propaganda stunt.
Title: Re: Ships lost in WW2
Post by: Leading Observer on October 12, 2022, 02:25:43 PM
Quote from: scooter on October 12, 2022, 06:33:41 AM
Quote from: Leading Observer on October 12, 2022, 03:49:51 AMI was surprised by how few were sunk along the West Coast of the USA

IJN submarine doctrine was, IIRC, for the subs to be adjuncts to the main battle line, with very little independent cruising.  Unlike Dönitz and Nimitz's guidance.

Besides, think of how much food, fuel, torpedoes, and other consumables each sub would have to be loaded with just to make the trip from Japan to the West Coast, for an extended stay and not some wartime propaganda stunt.

Good point, one I hadn't considered