With the Spitfire nearly finished I wanted a nice, stress free kit to put together while I was faffing about with the pair of Tempest Mk II's. So after having a look through the stash and rejecting a fair few initial choices I pulled a relatively new tool Airfix early Hurricane Mk I out of the stash. I've built a couple of these and they go together without any fuss, so hopefully it will be the perfect companion while I battle the Tempests.
The plan is that the Dutch AF got enough early fabric wing Mk I's to form one squadron in early 1939 and they served through until the German invasion of 1940.
According to Google translate Orkaan is Dutch for Hurricane. If it isn't, hopefully one of our Dutch members can tell me what is ?
Correct translation Chris. <_<
TomZ
Thanks Tom :thumbsup:
Back in the old days I'd have phoned my colleagues in Ijmuiden ;)
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 03, 2022, 06:52:48 AM
.... in Ijmuiden ;)
Now there's a difficult town name to pronounce! My colleague in the MTS Dutch Sales Office said they used it to test the Gestapo's attempts at infiltration of the Dutch Resistance during WWII. ;)
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 03, 2022, 08:01:28 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 03, 2022, 06:52:48 AM
.... in Ijmuiden ;)
Now there's a difficult town name to pronounce! My colleague in the MTS Dutch Sales Office said they used it to test the Gestapo's attempts at infiltration of the Dutch Resistance during WWII. ;)
I think the best test is Scheveningen
pronounced with a very hard G in sGeveningen.....
TomZ
Quote from: TomZ on July 03, 2022, 09:41:03 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 03, 2022, 08:01:28 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 03, 2022, 06:52:48 AM
.... in Ijmuiden ;)
Now there's a difficult town name to pronounce! My colleague in the MTS Dutch Sales Office said they used it to test the Gestapo's attempts at infiltration of the Dutch Resistance during WWII. ;)
I think the best test is Scheveningen
pronounced with a very hard G in sGeveningen.....
Oh yes, only a true Dutchman can pronounce that! I failed every single time. :(
And of course the I & J letter combination is a separate letter in Dutch, pronounced with your toungue pressed to the inside of your molars, like the Scottisch prononciation of "house", which BTW is exactly like the Durtch word "huis".
I get laughed at whenever I try to order an uitsmijter in the Netherlands.
It's worth it though so I keep trying.
Dutch cooking. :wub: :wub: :thumbsup: ;D
Cleaned up a few of the major parts this morning while the underside coat of varnish on the Spitfire was drying. Also decided that she will be an early Mk I with the two bladed prop, same as the Belgian's got.
Whilst waiting for putty and plastic card reinforcements to dry of the Tempests I did some more preliminary work on this. All the smaller parts are detached from the sprues, cleaned up and mounted ready for some painting. Might get that done over the weekend. :thumbsup:
Well I now have a completed airframe, I forgot how quickly and easily this kit goes together :thumbsup: I also forgot that 90% of the effort I put into the cockpit will never be seen again, even if I can pose the canopy open.
Just a little p.s.r. to do, mainly down to my carelessness, but should start getting paint on mid week or there abouts.
A small tip for anyone with this kit in their stash or planning on getting a copy. Whilst it is a really nice, simple, quick build that's ideal for recharging the batteries or as an in-between more complicated builds filler, there is one tricky bit, and even though I'm on my third build I still haven't learned. So i thought I'd type it here and I might remember next time :angel:.
Stage 12 would have you fit part C1 into the wheel bay, well don't. It really, really doesn't want to slip into its location holes without a fight, and it's beaten me on three occasions. Fit it into its location holes in the wheel bay roof* before you glue the two wing halves together. It may mean there's a slight miss-match once the wings are joined, but if you use slow setting glue that shouldn't be a problem.
* the wheel bay roof is on the underneath of the central part of the upper wing half.
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 10, 2022, 07:43:33 AM
Just a little p.s.r. to do, mainly down to my carelessness, but should start getting paint on mid week or there abouts.
Completed, so the decision is to prime or not to prime ?
I always prime, but that's because I KNOW there's some PSR I missed and priming will show it up.
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 03, 2022, 10:38:13 AM
Quote from: TomZ on July 03, 2022, 09:41:03 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 03, 2022, 08:01:28 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 03, 2022, 06:52:48 AM
.... in Ijmuiden ;)
Now there's a difficult town name to pronounce! My colleague in the MTS Dutch Sales Office said they used it to test the Gestapo's attempts at infiltration of the Dutch Resistance during WWII. ;)
I think the best test is Scheveningen
pronounced with a very hard G in sGeveningen.....
Oh yes, only a true Dutchman can pronounce that! I failed every single time. :(
How about the town near where my mum's side of the family come from? Enschede. Always pronounced "En-shader" but the Brits, when it's actually "En-skeddy"
Quote from: Devilfish on July 12, 2022, 10:17:50 PM
How about the town near where my mum's side of the family come from? Enschede. Always pronounced "En-shader" but the Brits, when it's actually "En-skeddy"
Oh yes, I was taught that correctly ages ago. One of my customers was there so I HAD to get it right!
They had a bubble wrap testing machine from us, GREAT fun! And noisy too......... ;D
Quote from: Devilfish on July 12, 2022, 10:17:50 PM
How about the town near where my mum's side of the family come from? Enschede. Always pronounced "En-shader" but the Brits, when it's actually "En-skeddy"
Yup another one my colleagues at Hoogovens taught me, mind you I had to teach them a couple of the weirder British ones as well. However the real problems they had, and their English was perfect :bow:, was with some of the regional accents ;D
I had an early start to Dutch pronunciations as a friend at junior school had a Dutch mother, lots of lads in the 50's had continental mothers, and I went with him to visit his grandparents one summer. Brilliant week as they lived near an army training camp which was on a heath absolutely littered with the wrecks of WWII armour, both Allied and German, which was presumably used for firing practice ? Absolute heaven for a couple of 9 year olds in 1961 :thumbsup:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 12, 2022, 08:15:21 AM
I always prime, but that's because I KNOW there's some PSR I missed and priming will show it up.
If I've done a lot of psr then I will prime with Halfords Grey, or if there's a lot of white on a model, like my recent Spitfire, then I will prime in white, but at other times I have to be in the mood. These haven't had much psr at all, but they might get primed, see how I feel in the morning ?
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 12, 2022, 07:08:10 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 10, 2022, 07:43:33 AM
Just a little p.s.r. to do, mainly down to my carelessness, but should start getting paint on mid week or there abouts.
Completed, so the decision is to prime or not to prime ?
Was a good boy today, went with primer
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Strange ya go with gray as a primer for a largely PSRed build Chris..i use black for that purpose ..makes any misses stick out like dogs wallnuts and if you really want to make life difficult scan over it with a high powered IED touch ;D
Grey's always worked for me. Maybe the availability of the very fine pigmented Halfords Grey Primer in the UK is why so many of us use it?
Plus it works if the main colour is light one too, whereas black might not do.
Ahh that could be it Chris..a super fine spray is wonderful and yup its good for light colours but black also works with light colours if you want a shade affect ..laying the colour over the same area over and over again can give a heap of shade affects and it still looks great..that's why all of my tanks and a few planes are primed in black..free shadeing ;D
Gray is prefect for planes ..i then spray black on the panel lines just to highlight those but nothing new about that..its been done for yrs.
Tamiya Fine Grey Primer .... Just bought 6 cans of it & have 6(/5?) cans of their regular Grey Primer from when the Fine was unavailable during the worst of the COVID supply issues.
Both are good, Fine is better. :thumbsup:
Well got the undersides painted, used some of my remaking Humbrol Metalcote, lovely paint :thumbsup:. Top surfaces over the weekend, hopefully.
Been musing on a second Dutch Hurricane, but this time a latter Mk I using one of my Arma kits. If I go with it then I'll probably finish it in the standard Dutch 3 colour scheme.
Well faster progress than I thought.
She is now fully painted and has her transfers on :thumbsup: Onto finals now :thumbsup:
Glad to hear its coming along matey :thumbsup:
Very hot in the model room this morning and could only manage 20/30 minutes before it got to clammy and I had to take a break. Still not a problem as I'm at that stage of the process where there's lots of little things to be done and thus I've done some work on the kit before retiring to read for 30 minutes or so and then returning to the kit. :thumbsup:
I forgot that the only fiddly bit with this kit is the undercarriage and that you ae better off following the instructions rather than thinking that all you "experience" means you can go your own way. :angel: Still got there after some faffing, fiddling and mild swearing so should have photos by the weekend. All being well.
A Hawker Orkan Mk I (fabric wing) of the 1.II.1 (1. Ja Va) (First Fighter Squadron) De Kooy, The Netherlands, January 1939.
In late 1938 the Dutch signed a contract with Hawkers for the delivery of 20 Hawker Hurricanes. Deliveries to commence in early 1939. However due to the ongoing rapid expansion of the R.A.F. Hawkers initially had problems fulfilling the order and it was only with the availability of 12 "early" fabric wing Hurricanes that they were able to start doing so. Needless to say the Dutch were not particularly happy about this and it was only with the intervention of the British Government, who were hoping to persuade the Dutch to renounce their neutrality, that 12 "later" metal skinned Hurricanes were shipped to Rotterdam in August 1939 (see Part 2 for farther details). As way of compensation for the delay the earlier Hurricanes were "gifted" to the Dutch and remained in service with 1.II.1 (1. Ja Va). Unfortunately many were destroyed on the ground when the German's invaded the Netherlands on 10th May 1940 and the remaining few, despite the heroic efforts of their pilots and ground crew, were unable to stem the overwhelming force of the invaders. Nonetheless the few Orkans able to get into the air destroyed a number of German bombers and fighters before the surviving two flew to England on the 16th May.
The kit is the relatively new Airfix 1/72 Hurricane Mk I which enables you to build an early and a later version from the box. It's a nice comfortable build, with the only slightly tricky area being the undercarriage fit, my tip here ? Follow the instructions :angel:. Transfers are from an old Techmod sheet which I'd forgotten I had. No idea where I got them and it's priced in what I assume are Zlotys ? Paints are a mixture of Xtracrylic for the main colours with Humbrol, including some old Metalcoat, for the rest. One point of notice is that despite the wheels being keyed to the undercarriage legs I still seem to have got them miss-aligned and the flats aren't quite on the ground. No idea how I managed that ? :banghead:
A nice relaxing, relatively quick build.
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Ah yes, that looks very good indeed!
TomZ
Cheers Tom
Very nice, and I second the comment about the gear! :thumbsup:
Good work, Chris! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Are the wheels keyed differently for each wheel or the same (such that one might, accidentally, put the wrong wheel on the wrong side)?
Very nice work Chris ..ya dont see many single balded Hurricanes so that makes even sweeter :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
That does my middle-aged old Dutch heart good. The Hurricane is a great plane and to see it in this Dutch livery is fab. But I do think the Dutch would have kept the name Hurricane, international traders as they alway have been. All the DeHavilland planes the Dutch had also kept their original names. No Tijgermot of Snelle Draak (Dragon Rapide).
Nevertheless, a real beauty!
I LOVE the idea of a 'Snelle Draak'! :wub:
As the first aircraft I ever flew in was a RAF Dominie, in future I'll tell people it was a 'Snelle Draak', with as much a Dutch accent as I can muster!
Very smart, Chris, well done. :thumbsup:
Very neat, I like it. :thumbsup:
:thumbsup:
Thanks gents :thumbsup:
Quote from: Paper Kosmonaut on July 20, 2022, 01:16:23 PM
But I do think the Dutch would have kept the name Hurricane, international traders as they alway have been. All the DeHavilland planes the Dutch had also kept their original names. No Tijgermot of Snelle Draak (Dragon Rapide).
Nevertheless, a real beauty!
I must admit I did think that would likely be the case, but went with the Dutch translation. For future Dutch "what if's" and I've a couple planed after the second Hurricane I'll stick with the English name :thumbsup:
Quote from: Old Wombat on July 20, 2022, 08:02:19 AM
Are the wheels keyed differently for each wheel or the same (such that one might, accidentally, put the wrong wheel on the wrong side)?
No Guy, there is only one way you can fit the wheels as the "hole" the leg fits into is on the inside of the hub and is shaped as well. I suppose you could fit them upside down :unsure:, but I seem to have discovered an entirely different method. Never mind I have another kit in the stash and I'll see what a dry fit is like. This one will be either Greek or Turkish ? I'll tackle it next time I need a "relaxation" build :mellow: