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GROUP BUILDS => One Week Build - 2022 => Topic started by: NARSES2 on May 19, 2022, 05:46:58 AM

Title: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on May 19, 2022, 05:46:58 AM
Right this is the place for any general chit-chat regarding the 2022 One Week Build
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on May 19, 2022, 09:23:00 AM
My favorite GB!  I'll be back from holidays and have half the week off work.   Time to start perusing the stash and brainstorming. 
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on May 20, 2022, 05:15:26 AM
The secret is to plan for a simple paint job with minimal PSR.

Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on May 20, 2022, 05:30:30 AM
Quote from: zenrat on May 20, 2022, 05:15:26 AM
The secret is to plan for a simple paint job with minimal PSR.

Exactly. I know what I want to do, although the paint job isn't the simplest :unsure:, just need to see if I can get the kit I want at either Newcastle or Elstree shows.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: Gondor on May 20, 2022, 07:47:06 AM
I have two builds planned for this, both identical apart from the markings which will both be whiffs, however as I just got the date for my first eye op on the ninth I might not be able to take part.

Gondor
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: Dizzyfugu on May 20, 2022, 10:22:49 AM
Already have a kit and a plan - and enough time beforehand to plan my personal execution of the topic, since there are many uncertainties concerning the livery. NMF will also be involved, so that there's another challenge, too.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on May 20, 2022, 12:27:01 PM
I think I've narrowed my build down to two options.  As with last year I think I'm going to go 1/72 instead of my normal 1/48.  I have a lovely kit in the stash just screaming for some Whiffery treatment.  A quick trip to Mr Hannant's Virtual Emporium has some appropriate decals on the way. 
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on May 21, 2022, 05:14:34 AM
I have an Airfix Gnat in the stash.  I may do something with that.

All my other ideas have been biplanes which would involve rigging.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: Weaver on May 23, 2022, 10:17:42 PM
I'm afraid that, for the first time in years, I may not be able to enter this. I can't get the time off work and I'm up to my eyeballs in sorting out my auntie's estate (and it'll probably be at a critical stage by then), so with other people putting in a lot of effort too, I don't feel I can take two weekends 'off' either.  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on May 23, 2022, 11:37:09 PM
It'll be a shame if you can't, great if you can, but in the end we all have higher priorities to deal with at some time or another.  Hope the estate-related endeavours go swiftly and smoothly.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: McColm on May 24, 2022, 01:22:10 AM
I'll be on holiday from Wednesday 15th until the 20th June down in Penmere Cornwall as my mum wants me to spend sometime convalescing.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 27, 2022, 10:22:41 AM
Should we be declaring the amount of preparation work we do for the '1 Week GB', or is it just assumed that we will be doing it anyway?
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on May 30, 2022, 09:00:09 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 27, 2022, 10:22:41 AM
Should we be declaring the amount of preparation work we do for the '1 Week GB', or is it just assumed that we will be doing it anyway?

See Rule 4 "Preparation" work is allowed prior to the start of the GB - this includes the cutting out and cleaning up of parts, even printing your own decals (!), but anything involving paint or glue is not allowed.

I don't believe previous 1WGBs have asked for such declarations, Kit.  I think you're referring to new builds but as with any GB 'modellers honour' is being relied upon.

Rule 5 covers eligibility of part-started models, which are not ruled out but should be referred to the moderator for their deliberation(s) ahead of the GB.  I did that once, expecting the mods to rule against the project - and they did (so I wasn't disappointed!).
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 30, 2022, 09:18:45 AM
OK Dave, thanks for that.

I've done some cutting and trimming on my project, but I have yet to get my hands on all the component kits so far. :(

I'll hold off on posting pics until the GB actually kicks off.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on June 02, 2022, 12:43:31 AM
Quick question for the Mod Bods on the "prep work" rule...would masking a canopy be considered "prep" and allowed before the start date or is it wandering too close to "painting" to be allowed?
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 06, 2022, 07:56:22 AM
Quote from: AeroplaneDriver on June 02, 2022, 12:43:31 AM
Quick question for the Mod Bods on the "prep work" rule...would masking a canopy be considered "prep" and allowed before the start date or is it wandering too close to "painting" to be allowed?

Hi Nick, 'Mod Bods' have considered your request and I'm afraid it's a no regarding canopy masking, for the reason you a anticipated.  Lookig forward to your build - only a few days to go before the GB begins!
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on June 06, 2022, 11:39:43 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on June 06, 2022, 07:56:22 AM
Quote from: AeroplaneDriver on June 02, 2022, 12:43:31 AM
Quick question for the Mod Bods on the "prep work" rule...would masking a canopy be considered "prep" and allowed before the start date or is it wandering too close to "painting" to be allowed?

Hi Nick, 'Mod Bods' have considered your request and I'm afraid it's a no regarding canopy masking, for the reason you a anticipated.  Lookig forward to your build - only a few days to go before the GB begins!

No worries. Just thought Id ask. Been traveling all weekend anyway and plenty to occupy my time till kickoff.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 06, 2022, 12:45:25 PM
Always best to check though - you've modded in the past so you know what I mean.  Enjoy the GB!
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 07, 2022, 08:13:42 AM
Finally got my plans drawn up for this GB, and got the kits to hand too. The decals will be no problem as I can print them.  ;D

It'll be a model of the RAF's first swept wing fighter....................  ;)
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: Gondor on June 07, 2022, 10:55:12 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 07, 2022, 08:13:42 AM

It'll be a model of the RAF's first swept wing fighter....................  ;)


So a biplane then?

Gondor
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 07, 2022, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: Gondor on June 07, 2022, 10:55:12 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 07, 2022, 08:13:42 AM

It'll be a model of the RAF's first swept wing fighter....................  ;)


So a biplane then?

Gondor

Single seat Tiger Moth with a pair of Lewis guns!
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 07, 2022, 12:09:55 PM
None of the above, both MILES out.  ;D
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 07, 2022, 01:59:20 PM
As I read it, I can actually start cutting plastic before the GB starts, but I can't glue or paint anything, is that right?

I'll be very pushed for time for this GB as I'll have to head home on the Friday before it ends, so that'll take much of a day out of my build time.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 07, 2022, 02:38:13 PM
That's it Kit, as per each GB (inc the LHCGB).  See Rule 4: '"Preparation" work is allowed prior to the start of the GB - this includes the cutting out and cleaning up of parts, even printing your own decals (!), but anything involving paint or glue is not allowed'.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 07, 2022, 03:11:44 PM
Oh goody, many thanks.  ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on June 08, 2022, 05:32:18 AM
I've always taken "cutting out and cleaning of parts" to mean removing them from the sprues and sanding off the attachment marks and flash. And no more than that.

i.e. we cannot start modifying parts to fit other parts until the actual start of the GB.

Can you confirm that please Chris.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on June 08, 2022, 06:42:29 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 08, 2022, 05:32:18 AM
I've always taken "cutting out and cleaning of parts" to mean removing them from the sprues and sanding off the attachment marks and flash. And no more than that.

i.e. we cannot start modifying parts to fit other parts until the actual start of the GB.

Can you confirm that please Chris.

That is the way that I've always understood it. Basically cleaning up, no assembling or painting.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 08, 2022, 06:53:08 AM
I'm not going to assemble anything or paint it, I'm just going to saw bits of them off............
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 08, 2022, 07:29:39 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 08, 2022, 06:42:29 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 08, 2022, 05:32:18 AM
I've always taken "cutting out and cleaning of parts" to mean removing them from the sprues and sanding off the attachment marks and flash. And no more than that.

i.e. we cannot start modifying parts to fit other parts until the actual start of the GB.

Can you confirm that please Chris.

That is the way that I've always understood it. Basically cleaning up, no assembling or painting.

Ditto, and had assumed that's what Kit was referring to.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 08, 2022, 07:36:44 AM
It's the 'cutting out' bit that I'll be doing, in about 5 mins actually..........
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on June 08, 2022, 07:56:53 AM
Just to re-iterate cutting out and cleaning up of the parts is ok, but no modification of parts.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 08, 2022, 08:22:47 AM
Now I'm confused, and running out of time............

Can I or can I not saw some of the parts into smaller bits? That sounds like 'cutting out' to me...........  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: Gondor on June 08, 2022, 10:43:59 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 08, 2022, 07:56:53 AM
Just to re-iterate cutting out and cleaning up of the parts is ok, but no modification of parts.

Should it not be that "Parts can be removed from the Sprue/Tree/Runner and cleaned up but no aditional work can be carried out on any part"?

Gondor
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 08, 2022, 10:51:32 AM
Quote from: Gondor on June 08, 2022, 10:43:59 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 08, 2022, 07:56:53 AM
Just to re-iterate cutting out and cleaning up of the parts is ok, but no modification of parts.

Should it not be that "Parts can be removed from the Sprue/Tree/Runner and cleaned up but no aditional work can be carried out on any part"?

Gondor

Have only within the last half hour suggested similar words, Gondor.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on June 09, 2022, 12:01:59 AM
Quote from: Gondor on June 08, 2022, 10:43:59 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 08, 2022, 07:56:53 AM
Just to re-iterate cutting out and cleaning up of the parts is ok, but no modification of parts.

Should it not be that "Parts can be removed from the Sprue/Tree/Runner and cleaned up but no aditional work can be carried out on any part"?

Gondor

In future they will do, providing I can remember, but in fairness to me the existing rules have sufficed in the past without any problems ?
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 09, 2022, 03:10:46 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 09, 2022, 12:01:59 AM

In future they will do, providing I can remember, but in fairness to me the existing rules have sufficed in the past without any problems ?


Until I came up with my tricky question about sawing bits off.............
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: Knightflyer on June 09, 2022, 03:55:08 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 09, 2022, 03:10:46 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on June 09, 2022, 12:01:59 AM

In future they will do, providing I can remember, but in fairness to me the existing rules have sufficed in the past without any problems ?


Until I came up with my tricky question about sawing bits off.............

I suppose it's the difference between sawing bits 'off'  = removal from sprues and removing lugs etc and sawing bits 'up' which I get the impression is the area that Kit was straying into ? (removing part of the wing or fuselage that he wasn't going to need?)
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 09, 2022, 05:53:48 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 08, 2022, 08:22:47 AM
Now I'm confused, and running out of time............

Can I or can I not saw some of the parts into smaller bits? That sounds like 'cutting out' to me...........  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Have sent a PM, Kit.  Chris aware.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on June 09, 2022, 06:26:05 AM
I've got a couple of ideas for this which will involve either an early Hurricane or Spitfire, but time is going to be the problem as I've a pretty packed week coming up. Still it might be the push I need to get me out of my current inertia.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 09, 2022, 08:29:14 AM
OK, sorted now thanks.

NO sawing has taken place.

Yet...............  ;D
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on June 09, 2022, 09:33:40 AM
SWMBO has announced that she has friends in Charleston, SC and Cleveland OH having get togethers this weekend and would like to attend both.  She has kindly asked if I'd like to go as she flies to CHS tomorrow after work and then to CLE on Sunday morning and return home on Monday. 

She has also kindly noted that I don't know any of these people so if I'd rather stay home all weekend she understands completely. 

Sounds like a quiet weekend of almost no commitments for me!!  Night Owl that I am, I'll likely be up waiting for the clock to strike midnight tomorrow to get an hour or so done on my build. 
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: Captain Canada on June 09, 2022, 07:48:53 PM
I bought another Modelcraft 1/200 Spruce Goose today when I was working in Windsor, ON. I'm thinking a turbine engined US Marines bird. Two gray, maybe white, and some orange tabs. Late Korean War.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 10, 2022, 05:28:35 AM
IT STARTS TOMORROW!!! 😱
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 10, 2022, 05:47:26 AM
Not before time either.  ;D

First saw cut goes down at midnight............ or just past it anyway.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on June 10, 2022, 09:01:32 AM
So does anyone else meticulously plan out their build for weeks, and then with 12 hours to go start considering a totally different project?  :banghead:
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 10, 2022, 09:18:27 AM
No, most of us change ideas frequently until we find one which works best.

Except Dizzy, he just builds ALL of them.  ;D
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: Gondor on June 10, 2022, 09:53:33 AM
Not for this Group Build. I use KISS (Keep It Stupidly Simple). Small number of parts, limited paint palette and minimal decals.

Saying that.... I do have an early Hobbyboss Typhoon kit (44 parts in total) and some decals for a Ukrainian Su-27.......

Gondor
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: loupgarou on June 10, 2022, 10:55:58 AM
Quote from: AeroplaneDriver on June 10, 2022, 09:01:32 AM
So does anyone else meticulously plan out their build for weeks, and then with 12 hours to go start considering a totally different project?  :banghead:

Yes, of course, it's the normal way... ;D
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 10, 2022, 04:13:29 PM
Right then. 1WGB22 has started in my time zone, so I've unlocked the Finished Builds thread.

Good luck with all of the planned entries, enjoy the GB.  I'm sure we're all eager to see the various completed items before the GB closes.

I'll provide an update on the vote later in the week.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: sandiego89 on June 11, 2022, 09:08:36 AM
Quote from: loupgarou on June 10, 2022, 10:55:58 AM
Quote from: AeroplaneDriver on June 10, 2022, 09:01:32 AM
So does anyone else meticulously plan out their build for weeks, and then with 12 hours to go start considering a totally different project?  :banghead:

Yes, of course, it's the normal way... ;D

Exactly me for this one, I had an ambitious one all planned out, but realized my work and life was going to be a challenge these next 10 days, took a hard look at home much cutting and putty was involved and put it to the back of the bench and went with a simple build.   
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 11, 2022, 09:47:22 AM
Quote from: sandiego89 on June 11, 2022, 09:08:36 AM

Exactly me for this one, I had an ambitious one all planned out, but realized my work and life was going to be a challenge these next 10 days, took a hard look at home much cutting and putty was involved and put it to the back of the bench and went with a simple build.


I wish I had as much sense, and will power, to do the same.

And that's after less than a day working in my GB entry.  :banghead:
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 14, 2022, 06:25:51 AM
Well, well, well.  First finished entry, and what a belter!
Encouraging/appreciative comments from forumites, too (unsurprisingly).  But could I ask please that these go - as per usual GB practice - in the applicable build thread?  This then keeps the 'finished builds' thread clear for exactly that.
Meanwhile Chris will in due course move the current comments to the applicable build thread.
Thanks for your understanding.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 15, 2022, 03:39:06 PM
Well, where has the week gone?  We're already more or less at the start of the second half of the 1WGB and it won't be long before I have to set up the vote.

Just so you know, I'm away from home this weekend, back late 20 June so will:
- lock the completed entries thread no later than midday 20 June;
- set up and run the vote in the morning of 21 June.

As in previous years expect the vote to run for seven days.  I'll announce when the vote is open and it will close automatically - results will be automatically revealed at the end.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 19, 2022, 03:24:58 AM
Well done all who've completed their excellent entries.  We're all now in (or just about to enter) the final 1WGB22 straight. 

Best of luck to those who are pushing hard to finish and post their entries by GB's end.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 20, 2022, 12:18:30 AM
Not sure how far west our westernmost 1WGB participant is, but assuming Honolulu and will lock the completed entries thread at 1100 GMT/UTC.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: kitbasher on June 20, 2022, 04:59:30 AM
And that's it, 1WGB22 is now over.  The vote will be set up tomorrow.  Thanks all who participated, well done all who completed and posted on time.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: zenrat on June 20, 2022, 05:10:08 AM
Well done all who finished.
Title: Re: One Week Build 2022 General Discussion
Post by: NARSES2 on June 20, 2022, 06:00:17 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 20, 2022, 05:10:08 AM
Well done all who finished.

Seconded  :thumbsup: