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Title: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: NARSES2 on March 06, 2021, 06:19:33 AM
Right as the title says it's time to let rip with your GB suggestions for the 2021/2022 Season.

Firstly can I remind you that the following ideas are excluded as GB subjects are given a 2 Season break.

In the Navy : Out of Retirement : Engines More or Less : Blue Lights : Captured : Prototypes. However given that "In the Navy" was such a huge subject as well as being 2 years ago, I think we can be a little "generous" when it comes to any naval GB suggestions.

Secondly and more importantly can I please ask you to think about your ideas before you throw them at me. Don't simply come up with ideas just because you can. Take a step back and ask yourself two questions 1) Are they practical ? 2) Would/will you take part in that GB if it is selected ?   

I'm not trying to stifle creativity but I'm trying to avoid diluting the Poll when it comes and having GB's that as many as possible of our members feel they can or could take part in.

The first round of the Poll will start on the 27th March with the second and final round being held from the 9th April. As always I will combine any similar ideas.

Thanks

Chris

All dates are liable to change
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Old Wombat on March 06, 2021, 08:40:54 AM
As my intention is not to enter any GB's for the next year or so, to see how that goes (after the current GB), I won't be putting any ideas forward. :angel:
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: scooter on March 06, 2021, 08:45:49 AM
Under the Black Flag/Pirates & Privateers GB
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: tigercat on March 06, 2021, 08:47:05 AM
There was a lot of positive feedback on some kind of Comic Book  GB a little while ago . Given that many kids cartoons also had an associated comic  it does give lots of scope from converting a Dapol engine into Sharon the Mauve Engine or G.I Joe equipment  or Transformers  in either mode before you come onto designing the Bat Taxi . Biggles had his own Graphic Novel  you could even turn an airfix coastal defence kit into some kind of secret lair

In fact it could be comics and cartoons which gives you all of wacky races and stop the pigeon as inspiration   
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Rheged on March 06, 2021, 09:24:30 AM
One I've thought of for a while is  SUB ZERO, which would permit everything from steam driven snowploughs via icebreakers and trans-Antarctic vehicles to absolutely anything on skis.  Equipment belonging to the Greenland Defence forces, the Canadian Inuit Rangers, the Himalayan rescue services and Taiga Travel and Tourism Ltd would also count.

I've deliberately tried to make this as wide a subject as possible.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: kitbasher on March 06, 2021, 10:12:46 AM
Quote from: tigercat on March 06, 2021, 08:47:05 AM
There was a lot of positive feedback on some kind of Comic Book  GB a little while ago . Given that many kids cartoons also had an associated comic  it does give lots of scope from converting a Dapol engine into Sharon the Mauve Engine or G.I Joe equipment  or Transformers  in either mode before you come onto designing the Bat Taxi . Biggles had his own Graphic Novel  you could even turn an airfix coastal defence kit into some kind of secret lair

In fact it could be comics and cartoons which gives you all of wacky races and stop the pigeon as inspiration

Yes, I agree, Comics GB.  Can be characters, weapons, vehicles, vessels, aircraft, spacecraft, whatever.

Recce GB - anything devoted to reconnaissance; manned, unmanned, land/sea/air (long wings for Kit), short or regular wings for the rest of us)/space.  Aircraft for example can be photo recce, fighter recce, ELINT, SIGINT, drones....etc.  Stuff to get imagery, basically.  Maritime recce (e.g. P-3, P-7, Nimrod, Shackleton, etc) not so as for this GB they should be considered anti-vessel, but what does the whifferati think?  A what if ELINT of an MR type could be in scope, though.

Piston Perfection GB - a rerun of the 2008 GB.  EDIT: It's got jets?  Not in Whifworld.  It's got piston engines?  Nope, not here!

I'd be in for all three, maybe even offer myself up as a candidate Mod.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: McColm on March 06, 2021, 02:04:37 PM
I propose The History of the Lorry, which covers everything from the early steam powered trucks to the modern equivalent. The trailers aren't included here but form my next suggestion. Prototypes,  still born projects,  wheels,  tracks and even flotation.

My second proposal is The world of trailers. This covers every detachable trailer you can think of. Commercial,  military,  mobile home and leisure facilities.

World War II Gunships,  this is the world before the Mustang was built. The escort fighter; it has to have the range and the fire power to escort the bombers to their target(s) and back. It can be based around the bomber with a few modifications. Such as long range fuel tanks in the bomb bay(s), extra guns and/or radar.

Military trains
Apart from carrying munitions,  military trains can carry nuclear weapons their launch devices. Some have their carriages converted into mobile Command centres whilst others are mobile hospitals. I have never seen a helicopter land on a flatbed wagon although I have seen a few take off from them through the wonders of cinema.

Oversized loads
If it can't fit inside an aircraft's fuselage,  then it will have to be carried on the outside. This is not restricted to aircraft.
The load is either the Space Shuttle or the Russian equivalent  and you have won the contract to move it to the launch site. There's no restrictions on your budget but you can't use the shuttle under it's own power either.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: sandiego89 on March 06, 2021, 03:31:36 PM
My submissions:

Falklands/Malvinas 40th anniversary GB:  Enter something that was involved or supported the 1982 conflict, UK or Argentine or civil, or maybe someone else secretly supported....   The March 1 to May 31, 2022 time frame fits about perfect to the actual dates of the war. 

"Trash haulers", aka logistics GB:  "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu.  Enter something dedicated to the less glamorous but essential role of delivering goods and supporting other efforts.  All welcome: garbage trucks, tankers, cargo ships, Airlifters, landing craft, trucks/lorries, FedEx/Amazon/UPS, logging....   

 
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 06, 2021, 03:52:12 PM
Ooooh yes, I like both of those Dave.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on March 06, 2021, 04:17:14 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 06, 2021, 03:52:12 PM
Ooooh yes, I like both of those Dave.  :thumbsup:

Seconded.  I could get behind voting for both of those ideas. 
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: rickshaw on March 07, 2021, 01:59:19 AM
Interesting.  Very interesting.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Mossie on March 07, 2021, 02:06:53 AM
I've an idea for the comic book GB, I could get into that one. :thumbsup:.

McColms transport ideas are very niche but would all fit with Dave's trash haulers GB.

I like the idea of recce too. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: loupgarou on March 07, 2021, 02:58:33 AM
I am afraid that the Falklands GB, while interesting, could get us into political sensible matters.
I'd love a logistic GB!   :wub:
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: zenrat on March 07, 2021, 03:30:00 AM
Quote from: scooter on March 06, 2021, 08:45:49 AM
Under the Black Flag/Pirates & Privateers GB

:thumbsup:

Second that with the addition of smugglers to the mix.  Plus the list I have been making all year;

By the Book GB:  A whiff from a book.  Fiction or non-fiction.

You choose for me GB:  Someone else makes the choices for the builder.  From which kit should I whiff to what colour should I paint it and every choice in between.

Build whatever you f**king want and mod it yourself GB.  Self explanatory. ;D (I may have jotted this down while negotiating the rules for one fo this years GBs).

Anything but aircraft GB.  Again, self explanatory.

V Bomber, Canberra and Lightning GB.  Whiff the existing ones or create others from your imagination. Could be expanded out to become...

...1950's GB.

Bad kit GB.  Mach 2, A Model, Unicrap, early Hasegawa Phantoms & Starfighters etc.

Old Kit GB.  Moulds must date from before, oh lets say 1980.  We did this before and I quite enjoyed it.

Plane engined car GB.  Self explanatory.  1/24 engine in 1/25 car preferably but 1/72 or scaleorama  possible.  Special dispensation for 1/35 tank engines in 1/25 cars.

Bloody ridiculous (it'll never work) GB.  Many of my builds fit in to this category.

Spanish Civil War GB.  Massive scope here for both foreign equipment and home built lash ups.

Delta GB.  Be triangular or be square.  MiG 21, Delta Flyer, Class 55 loco, Dairylea...

Colourful GB.  Paint it with all the colours not just the drab ones.

Icons GB.  Spitfires, Corvettes, Tiger tank, HMS Ark Royal, X-Wing, Kylie.  Not sure how we'd define an icon though.

Gunship GB.  Mac's idea expanded.  Not just multi engined bomber escorts but anything modified to carry more guns.  From a rowboat with a lewis gun, to a Blenheim with a four gun turret, to a technical.

I apologise if there seems a lot Chris but I have actually merged a few and deleted some already covered.
Honest  ;)

Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: tigercat on March 07, 2021, 03:59:31 AM
I'm intrigued at what a What If Kylie would be like !!
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: zenrat on March 07, 2021, 05:02:29 AM
Quote from: tigercat on March 07, 2021, 03:59:31 AM
I'm intrigued at what a What If Kylie would be like !!

I could tell you, but this is a family website...
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: NARSES2 on March 07, 2021, 05:24:32 AM
Quote from: zenrat on March 07, 2021, 03:30:00 AM

I apologise if there seems a lot Chris but I have actually merged a few and deleted some already covered.
Honest  ;)

No probs mate, I know you keep notes during the year.

Quote from: tigercat on March 07, 2021, 03:59:31 AM
I'm intrigued at what a What If Kylie would be like !!

Me to, lucky I've not got a blood pressure check tomorrow  ;)
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: NARSES2 on March 07, 2021, 05:30:27 AM
Unusually I'll add one of my own.

The Anniversary GB. Find an anniversary that is occurring this year and build something inspired by that. Anniversaries would need to be multiple's of 10 (possibly 5) so no 298th anniversary of ......... etc.

As an example the 320th Anniversary of the War of the Spanish Succession 1701 to 1714. Sometimes known in the UK as the Marlburian War. Louis XIV's Air Force, Tank Corps ?
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Sport21ing on March 07, 2021, 06:45:46 AM
Expeditionary Forces - OTL exemples: WWI's Portuguese And Thailandese Expeditionary Forces; WWII's Brazilian Expeditionary Force and Blue Division

Operation Downfall - Yes, one was already made, but since there's also two "Navy" and two "Cold War" GB's, I give it another go

Operation Unthinkable
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on March 07, 2021, 08:52:05 AM
I like the "Old Kit" and "Gunship" ideas a lot. 
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: McColm on March 07, 2021, 01:35:58 PM
Another idea is Biz jets,  business jets with no more than 40 passengers.
These can be based on real world or kitbashed, shortened fuselages or adding a longer wing.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: McColm on March 09, 2021, 08:15:32 AM
Car estates/shooting brakes/station wagons that never went into production.
This includes all the concept designs that never made it into a full run production . This excludes Tor cars and Crayford cars, small design companies such as the Lynx Eventer.
Examples would be the Rover P5 and P6 estates these are excluded but the Rover SD1 estate would be included. Hatchbacks and fastbacks are excluded as well.
I will except any Ford Mustang after 1970 as there's a few Mustang station wagons based on the early models.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Rheged on March 09, 2021, 08:29:51 AM
Quote from: Rheged on March 06, 2021, 09:24:30 AM
One I've thought of for a while is  SUB ZERO, which would permit everything from steam driven snowploughs via icebreakers and trans-Antarctic vehicles to absolutely anything on skis.  Equipment belonging to the Greenland Defence forces, the Canadian Inuit Rangers, the Himalayan rescue services and Taiga Travel and Tourism Ltd would also count.

I've deliberately tried to make this as wide a subject as possible.

On mature reflection, this could be subsumed (good word!)  into Sandiego89's suggestion of "Trashhaulers", .  The "sub-zero" ideas I had are all logistics based  and if they are combined it's one less for Chris to deal with.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 09, 2021, 08:38:06 AM
Quote from: McColm on March 09, 2021, 08:15:32 AM

Car estates/shooting brakes/station wagons that never went into production.
This includes all the concept designs that never made it into a full run production . This excludes Tor cars and Crayford cars, small design companies such as the Lynx Eventer.
Examples would be the Rover P5 and P6 estates these are excluded but the Rover SD1 estate would be included. Hatchbacks and fastbacks are excluded as well.
I will except any Ford Mustang after 1970 as there's a few Mustang station wagons based on the early models.


There were only two P5 estates, and there was only one SD1 estate, AFAIK. Why the difference in your classification?
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: crudebuteffective on March 09, 2021, 08:57:00 AM
ok here is my idea for what its worth

alternative jet timelines

jets were invented before monoplanes so you get jet engined biplanes

jets came after swept wings so you get prop driven delta or swing wing

the jet engine never existed you get prop driven A10 OR 747 etc

DOES THIS MAKE SENSE
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: kitbasher on March 09, 2021, 09:12:04 AM
Quote from: crudebuteffective on March 09, 2021, 08:57:00 AM
alternative jet timelines

jets were invented before monoplanes so you get jet engined biplanes

jets came after swept wings so you get prop driven delta or swing wing

the jet engine never existed you get prop driven A10 OR 747 etc

DOES THIS MAKE SENSE

EDIT: I think this could be merged with my earlier suggestion 'Piston Perfection GB - a rerun of the 2008 GB.  It's got jets?  Not in Whifworld.  It's got piston engines?  Nope, not here!'
I'm up for that.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 09, 2021, 09:22:53 AM
That sounds interesting, BAGS of scope there.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: kitbasher on March 09, 2021, 09:37:38 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 09, 2021, 09:22:53 AM
That sounds interesting, BAGS of scope there.  :thumbsup:

I agree.

Apologies for misremembering the Piston Perfection GB, got it my head that was more a piston/jet engine swap GB.  So a merger wouldn't be feasible, I don't think (although my Piston Perfection entry would fit the engine swap idea).
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: loupgarou on March 09, 2021, 12:15:12 PM
Quote from: kitbasher on March 09, 2021, 09:12:04 AM
Quote from: crudebuteffective on March 09, 2021, 08:57:00 AM
alternative jet timelines

jets were invented before monoplanes so you get jet engined biplanes

jets came after swept wings so you get prop driven delta or swing wing

the jet engine never existed you get prop driven A10 OR 747 etc

DOES THIS MAKE SENSE

I think this could be merged with my earlier suggestion 'Piston Perfection GB - a rerun of the 2008 GB.  It's got jets?  Not in Whifworld.  It's got piston engines?  Nope, not here!'

Beg your pardon, I continue NOT to understand. "It's got jets?  Not in Whifworld" so no jet engines.  "It's got piston engines?  Nope, not here!" so no piston engines. And then??? What propulsion form would be allowed?
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: scooter on March 09, 2021, 12:20:00 PM
Quote from: loupgarou on March 09, 2021, 12:15:12 PM
Quote from: kitbasher on March 09, 2021, 09:12:04 AM
Quote from: crudebuteffective on March 09, 2021, 08:57:00 AM
alternative jet timelines

jets were invented before monoplanes so you get jet engined biplanes

jets came after swept wings so you get prop driven delta or swing wing

the jet engine never existed you get prop driven A10 OR 747 etc

DOES THIS MAKE SENSE

I think this could be merged with my earlier suggestion 'Piston Perfection GB - a rerun of the 2008 GB.  It's got jets?  Not in Whifworld.  It's got piston engines?  Nope, not here!'

Beg your pardon, I continue NOT to understand. "It's got jets?  Not in Whifworld" so no jet engines.  "It's got piston engines?  Nope, not here!" so no piston engines. And then??? What propulsion form would be allowed?

Steam?  Muscle?  Magic?
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 09, 2021, 01:39:57 PM
Gravity.

Gliders don't have engines and they fly pretty well.  ;D
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: loupgarou on March 09, 2021, 03:02:49 PM
Quote from: scooter on March 09, 2021, 12:20:00 PM
Quote from: loupgarou on March 09, 2021, 12:15:12 PM
Quote from: kitbasher on March 09, 2021, 09:12:04 AM
Quote from: crudebuteffective on March 09, 2021, 08:57:00 AM
alternative jet timelines

jets were invented before monoplanes so you get jet engined biplanes

jets came after swept wings so you get prop driven delta or swing wing

the jet engine never existed you get prop driven A10 OR 747 etc

DOES THIS MAKE SENSE

I think this could be merged with my earlier suggestion 'Piston Perfection GB - a rerun of the 2008 GB.  It's got jets?  Not in Whifworld.  It's got piston engines?  Nope, not here!'

Beg your pardon, I continue NOT to understand. "It's got jets?  Not in Whifworld" so no jet engines.  "It's got piston engines?  Nope, not here!" so no piston engines. And then??? What propulsion form would be allowed?

Steam?  Muscle?  Magic?

My not understanding is why the proposed GB is called "Piston perfection", THEN the same line says "It's got piston engines?  Nope, not here!".
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: kitbasher on March 09, 2021, 03:21:59 PM
Please see earlier post explaining that I successfully confused/persuaded myself that 'Piston Perfection' was an engine swap GB (because of one of my entries) when it's nothing of the sort.  D'oh!

What I was trying to get across in my original post was that if a powered aircraft in the real world had piston engines, in whif world it'd have something else (jets, turboprops, maybe no engines), the reverse if a turbine-engined aircraft (or indeed a glider).

My dull moment was not remembering what Piston Perfection was actually about, when all I was doing was trying to align with crudebuteffective's 'alternative jet timelines' suggestion.

Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: McColm on March 09, 2021, 10:45:42 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 09, 2021, 08:38:06 AM
Quote from: McColm on March 09, 2021, 08:15:32 AM

Car estates/shooting brakes/station wagons that never went into production.
This includes all the concept designs that never made it into a full run production . This excludes Tor cars and Crayford cars, small design companies such as the Lynx Eventer.
Examples would be the Rover P5 and P6 estates these are excluded but the Rover SD1 estate would be included. Hatchbacks and fastbacks are excluded as well.
I will except any Ford Mustang after 1970 as there's a few Mustang station wagons based on the early models.


There were only two P5 estates, and there was only one SD1 estate, AFAIK. Why the difference in your classification?
Sorry Kit I got confused with the Rover P5 Hearse,  yes the P5 estate can be included.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: loupgarou on March 09, 2021, 11:55:33 PM
Quote from: kitbasher on March 09, 2021, 03:21:59 PM
Please see earlier post explaining that I successfully confused/persuaded myself that 'Piston Perfection' was an engine swap GB (because of one of my entries) when it's nothing of the sort.  D'oh!

What I was trying to get across in my original post was that if a powered aircraft in the real world had piston engines, in whif world it'd have something else (jets, turboprops, maybe no engines), the reverse if a turbine-engined aircraft (or indeed a glider).

My dull moment was not remembering what Piston Perfection was actually about, when all I was doing was trying to align with crudebuteffective's 'alternative jet timelines' suggestion.


OK, I was referring to your original post (page 1) and to me your formulation was quite confusing. I hope Narses can unravel matters.  <_<
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Dizzyfugu on March 10, 2021, 12:04:47 AM
Personally, I like the "Comics/Cartoon" topic. There are many vehicles and "things" that can be drawn from these sources, or real things that might be modified to fit into such universes. There's also animation and anime involved - Gerry Anderson and lots of mecha might become eligible, too.

The "Sub Zero" theme is also nice, not only from a construction point of view, you also have the option of winter liveries/weathering - also a neat challenge.

Personally, I'd (again) throw an "Africa" theme into the discussion. There was an "Aussierama" GB a while ago, and I think that Africa is creatively pretty under-represented, while offering a lot of hooks like WWII, obscure armed forces or Wakanda.  ;)
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: kitbasher on March 10, 2021, 12:07:50 AM
Yes, apologies again for that, loupgarou.  The intent was:

Piston Perfection GB - a rerun of the 2008 GB.  It's got jets?  Not in Whifworld, it's got propellors.  It's got piston engines?  Nope, not here, it's got jets!

And as mentioned, I did a Dubya and misunderrepresented what the 2008 PP GB was all about.

Have now edited it.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: McColm on March 10, 2021, 01:31:13 AM
Rail launched aircraft
Rail cars/wagons converted into launch pads for fighter or bomber aircraft.

V/STOL submarines
A spinoff from flying submarines,  having V/STOL capabilities similar to that of the Ekranoplan.

Formula One rally cars
A madcap idea combination of a Formula One car doing a rally stage in the Welsh countryside.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Howard of Effingham on March 10, 2021, 02:26:44 AM
I have no suggestions for a Group Build.... :wacko:
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: The Wooksta! on March 10, 2021, 04:18:26 AM
I was going to suggest a Mosquito one, what with the new Airfix one due at some point in the next year, but that's a bit limiting. How about a De Havilland one instead, as that means anything built by the company in the UK, Australia and Canada. And it could be stretched a tad to include anything by Airspeed, as they were owned by De Havilland.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Mossie on March 10, 2021, 03:26:32 PM
Airco too, DH was basically the same firm.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: McColm on March 11, 2021, 10:49:38 AM
Shortened aircraft
The Boeing 747 was shortened to the Boeing 747 SP, so what about shortening the fuselage of the B-52 or B-36? I'm not too sure why you should need to but the variants in the military and civilian aircraft could be a head turner .
It works for the Airfix BAe Nimrod as I removed a section forward of the wings and at the rear in my attempt to civilianize it.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 11, 2021, 12:08:00 PM
Quote from: McColm on March 11, 2021, 10:49:38 AM

Shortened aircraft
The Boeing 747 was shortened to the Boeing 747 SP, so what about shortening the fuselage of the B-52 or B-36? I'm not too sure why you should need to but the variants in the military and civilian aircraft could be a head turner .
It works for the Airfix BAe Nimrod as I removed a section forward of the wings and at the rear in my attempt to civilianize it.


I like it.  :thumbsup:  ;D ;)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/3787/fPYfj9.jpg)
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Flyer on March 11, 2021, 12:59:27 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 11, 2021, 12:08:00 PM
Quote from: McColm on March 11, 2021, 10:49:38 AM

Shortened aircraft
The Boeing 747 was shortened to the Boeing 747 SP, so what about shortening the fuselage of the B-52 or B-36? I'm not too sure why you should need to but the variants in the military and civilian aircraft could be a head turner .
It works for the Airfix BAe Nimrod as I removed a section forward of the wings and at the rear in my attempt to civilianize it.


I like it.  :thumbsup:  ;D ;)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/3787/fPYfj9.jpg)

The size of the wing compared to the tailplane almost make's that a canard  :o
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 11, 2021, 01:57:26 PM
The wings actually ARE tailplanes. They're the full size DC9 tailplanes, whereas the tailplanes on that model have been sawn down quite a bit.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: AndrewF on March 12, 2021, 01:04:46 AM
Following on from someone's suggestion on my Airacobra profile thread, how about an American Volunteer Group GB? Different aircraft, different timeframe, theatre, etc. The only constraint would be that the markings should be "identifiable" as AVG markings - in other words, a WW1 AVG would have the sharkmouth, "Flying Tiger" cartoon etc. but they would be designed differently to reflect the graphic style of the era (for example the "Tiger" wouldn't be a 1940's style Disney graphic).
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: zenrat on March 12, 2021, 02:00:28 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 11, 2021, 12:08:00 PM
Quote from: McColm on March 11, 2021, 10:49:38 AM

Shortened aircraft
The Boeing 747 was shortened to the Boeing 747 SP, so what about shortening the fuselage of the B-52 or B-36? I'm not too sure why you should need to but the variants in the military and civilian aircraft could be a head turner .
It works for the Airfix BAe Nimrod as I removed a section forward of the wings and at the rear in my attempt to civilianize it.


I like it.  :thumbsup:  ;D ;)
...


Me too, but how about we expand it to be Shorter, Longer, Narrower, Wider, Higher, or Lower and open to anything not just aircraft.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: zenrat on March 12, 2021, 03:01:34 AM
From a Profile GB.  Take a profile by one of the excellent whiffing artists posting here and reproduce it in 3D.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Sport21ing on March 12, 2021, 03:47:07 AM
Another idea:

Bite Me! or Shark Mouths - based on this link: http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/577/Bite-Me.aspx

Pretty much anything (military or civilian - air, ground or sea) with a shark (or other carnivore) mouth  ;D
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 12, 2021, 05:39:28 AM
Quote from: Sport21ing on March 12, 2021, 03:47:07 AM

Pretty much anything (military or civilian - air, ground or sea) with a shark (or other carnivore) mouth  ;D


Bags of scope there for sure.  :thumbsup:

I'm surprised some of the more aggressive looking cars haven't been decorated with sharks mouths, the current MEGA-ugly BMWs being a good starting point.

Oh, they have...........

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/4250/W12xjc.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5033/eyBg9k.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6192/x2QwsG.jpg)
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: scooter on March 12, 2021, 06:25:36 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 12, 2021, 05:39:28 AM
Quote from: Sport21ing on March 12, 2021, 03:47:07 AM

Pretty much anything (military or civilian - air, ground or sea) with a shark (or other carnivore) mouth  ;D


Bags of scope there for sure.  :thumbsup:

I'm surprised some of the more aggressive looking cars haven't been decorated with sharks mouths, the current MEGA-ugly BMWs being a good starting point.

Oh, they have...........

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/4250/W12xjc.jpg)

That looks surprisingly appropriate (the whole paint scheme) on a late 4th Gen Firebird.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Flyer on March 12, 2021, 11:47:52 AM
It would be a pain to organize and would have postage costs for the participants but I quite like an idea SWMBO suggested to me a while ago and that is a secret Santa/ spares and repairs sort of thing where members place a nominated amount of part's of their choice from their spares stock in a box and posts it to another random member who then has to make something from it using all the parts from the box only and no extra part's of their own...
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: McColm on March 12, 2021, 11:57:28 AM
Elvis Presley's vehicles
Having watched a documentary about the vehicles Elvis owned for a whiffer this covers most subjects. I'm not too sure if he ever owned a train or had a carriage converted for him and his mafia but that shouldn't prevent a whiff being created.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: NARSES2 on March 13, 2021, 05:31:03 AM
Quote from: Flyer on March 12, 2021, 11:47:52 AM
It would be a pain to organize and would have postage costs for the participants but I quite like an idea SWMBO suggested to me a while ago and that is a secret Santa/ spares and repairs sort of thing where members place a nominated amount of part's of their choice from their spares stock in a box and posts it to another random member who then has to make something from it using all the parts from the box only and no extra part's of their own...

We did indeed have a similar build within the UK Product Group many moons ago and there's been talk over the years of doing it again. However it would be very difficult to organise for the Site, given its global nature. Even more difficult what with all the various different world wide Covid regulations etc.

If we were to do something like this, then to make it slightly more controllable it would probably be best if we kept the "swapping" within continents ?
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: McColm on March 13, 2021, 01:56:20 PM
Superheroes  alternative vehicles
Speaks for itself, what they should have got and not what they were given.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Rheged on March 14, 2021, 07:26:54 AM

One item build.   Everyone builds, for instance, a  1/72 Spitfire, as augmented from your  imagination and scraps box. One could have anything from a aircraft via speedboat to a racing car.

  Family Rheged did this three years ago with some  cheap Lindberg Me 163 kits as a Boxing Day afternoon activity when it was too wet to go out. Our elder son produced a steampunk variant, all rivets and Brunellian, but the winner was  his wife who made an Me163 like a Faberge egg (possibly Herman Goering's private aircraft, given the bling he liked). Madame R built a refugee from "Yellow Submarine" Our younger son produced  an RAE Komet  and mine was a boring, ordinary NASA offering.

 
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 14, 2021, 07:42:01 AM
The thought of a Faberge Me-163 surely BOGGLES the mind!  :-X
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on March 14, 2021, 08:53:22 AM
So many great ideas on here. I see 4-5 ideas so far thet I'd definitely be invoved in. 

I really like the "Secret Santa" idea.  I enjoyed that GB when we did it a few times many moons ago.  I'd be happy to volunteer some time for logistics for something like this, gling through entrants and pairing people up according to georgraphy. 
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Rheged on March 14, 2021, 09:07:06 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 14, 2021, 07:42:01 AM
The thought of a Faberge Me-163 surely BOGGLES the mind!  :-X

I can't find the photo, but think of a Komet stood on its tail, lapis lazuli blue, with a golden nose and canopy, and jewelled panel lines running nose to tail.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 14, 2021, 09:15:44 AM
Quote from: Rheged on March 14, 2021, 09:07:06 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 14, 2021, 07:42:01 AM
The thought of a Faberge Me-163 surely BOGGLES the mind!  :-X

I can't find the photo, but think of a Komet stood on its tail, lapis lazuli blue, with a golden nose and canopy, and jewelled panel lines running nose to tail.


That's pretty much what I had in mind too, having seen Doenitz' baton in the Shrewsbury Town Museum (No, I don't know why it's there either...)

Well OTT!

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7161/kRNZWh.jpg)
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: kitbasher on March 14, 2021, 09:28:43 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 13, 2021, 05:31:03 AM
"swapping with incontinents"

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Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Nick on March 14, 2021, 09:36:57 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 14, 2021, 09:15:44 AM
Quote from: Rheged on March 14, 2021, 09:07:06 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 14, 2021, 07:42:01 AM
The thought of a Faberge Me-163 surely BOGGLES the mind!  :-X

I can't find the photo, but think of a Komet stood on its tail, lapis lazuli blue, with a golden nose and canopy, and jewelled panel lines running nose to tail.


That's pretty much what I had in mind too, having seen Doenitz' baton in the Shrewsbury Town Museum (No, I don't know why it's there either...)

Well OTT!

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7161/kRNZWh.jpg)

Taken by British Army soldiers after the surrender  ;D

A replacement baton sold a couple of years ago for £25,000. It was probably a fake. The original is worth a lot more.  :o
https://www.droog-mag.nl/hitler/2019/ct/index.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7821893/Replica-ceremonial-baton-Adolf-Hitlers-successor-sells-nearly-25-000-auction.html
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: Snowtrooper on March 14, 2021, 03:10:39 PM
Pimp My Ride - or, "Fancy but Impractical". Planes, boats, cars all welcome, just as long as they have been outfitted to be all show beyond all reason, like a 4x4 with 1 cm of ground clearance. Can include military subjects though that will require some creativity (B-17 with a cut-away/see-through fuselage that shows the crew has fit in there a galley, sleeping quarters, and a bar complete with a gramophone, dartboard, and billiards table somehow came to my mind when writing this), offers possibilities for "Civilianize It" builds as well.

Post-Apocalyptic Build - your apocalypse and its consequences might vary, but Insane Ian's last of the V12 Interceptors is of course still allowed. An asteroid breaking Earth's crust is a good excuse to have everyone use a mecha to get across the broken ground. Of course the apocalypse might be something totally implausible like a global pandemic forcing everyone to isolate themselves, though I have not yet seen a fire truck's water cannon repurposed to shoot disinfectant (remembering the photos from a year ago showing governments "doing something" by staging a silly photo shoot to show how they disinfect the city streets).
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: kitbasher on March 15, 2021, 02:41:14 AM
Quote from: The Wooksta! on March 10, 2021, 04:18:26 AM
I was going to suggest a Mosquito one, what with the new Airfix one due at some point in the next year, but that's a bit limiting. How about a De Havilland one instead, as that means anything built by the company in the UK, Australia and Canada. And it could be stretched a tad to include anything by Airspeed, as they were owned by De Havilland.

I'd be up for that, with Airco and Airspeed included.  Also dH designs that were subsequently manufactured under the Hawker-Siddely, British Aerospace and BAE Systems names.

As an aside, I think a dH127 (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/de-havilland-dh-127-and-dh-128.33194/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/de-havilland-dh-127-and-dh-128.33194/)) could probably be wrenched out of a Tornado F3 with a fair bit of plastic card and PSR, and perhaps something vaguely dH117 (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/de-havilland-dh-117.4929/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/de-havilland-dh-117.4929/)) from a Voodoo.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: McColm on March 15, 2021, 04:27:53 AM
Quote from: Snowtrooper on March 14, 2021, 03:10:39 PM
Pimp My Ride - or, "Fancy but Impractical". Planes, boats, cars all welcome, just as long as they have been outfitted to be all show beyond all reason, like a 4x4 with 1 cm of ground clearance. Can include military subjects though that will require some creativity (B-17 with a cut-away/see-through fuselage that shows the crew has fit in there a galley, sleeping quarters, and a bar complete with a gramophone, dartboard, and billiards table somehow came to my mind when writing this), offers possibilities for "Civilianize It" builds as well.

Post-Apocalyptic Build - your apocalypse and its consequences might vary, but Insane Ian's last of the V12 Interceptors is of course still allowed. An asteroid breaking Earth's crust is a good excuse to have everyone use a mecha to get across the broken ground. Of course the apocalypse might be something totally implausible like a global pandemic forcing everyone to isolate themselves, though I have not yet seen a fire truck's water cannon repurposed to shoot disinfectant (remembering the photos from a year ago showing governments "doing something" by staging a silly photo shoot to show how they disinfect the city streets).

Pimp my ride sounds good,  there was a TV programme with the same name.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: NARSES2 on March 15, 2021, 07:15:37 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on March 14, 2021, 09:28:43 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 13, 2021, 05:31:03 AM
"swapping with incontinents"

??

My copy say's "swapping within continents"

Although ????????????? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: McColm on March 16, 2021, 12:35:47 AM
Jaguar E-type 60th birthday
The Jaguar E-type is an iconic car, but in the hands of a Whiffer with so many plastic kit models to choose from many variants could be built either concept models that never made it into production or using parts from a 1/24 Jaguar E-type on a Dodge Viper for example .
I know that the 1/24 Jaguar MkII doesn't quite fit on a Jaguar E-type of the same scale as I tried to build the sedan version,  I should have tried putting parts from the E-type on the MKII instead!
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on March 18, 2021, 11:06:51 AM
Channel surfing on a rainy day here in the southern US I saw that Flight Of the Phoenix is on TV today.  This seems fertile ground for a "Phoenix" GB.

I'm sure most if not all are familiar with the film(s) and/or book, but to summarize a cargo plane being ferried across the desert crashes and the crew fashion together a flyable machine out of the wreckage.  Real life kit bashing if you will! 

Take your model and rebuild it as if it has crashed and you need to cobble together something to fly out on to survive. 
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: kerick on March 18, 2021, 12:21:23 PM
Myth busters did something like that by repairing and flying an airplane with duck/duct tape. They then built a sailboat with a metal frame covered in tape and a duct tape sail.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: McColm on March 18, 2021, 02:17:54 PM
Alternative aircraft for  RAF Transport Command or MATS.
Quite a lot of scope for this subject , single engines,  twins, triple and quads.
Tilting wings or even V/STOL transport.
Title: Re: Call for 2021/2022 GB Suggestions
Post by: PR19_Kit on March 18, 2021, 02:45:35 PM
Quote from: AeroplaneDriver on March 18, 2021, 11:06:51 AM

Channel surfing on a rainy day here in the southern US I saw that Flight Of the Phoenix is on TV today.  This seems fertile ground for a "Phoenix" GB.

I'm sure most if not all are familiar with the film(s) and/or book, but to summarize a cargo plane being ferried across the desert crashes and the crew fashion together a flyable machine out of the wreckage.  Real life kit bashing if you will! 

Take your model and rebuild it as if it has crashed and you need to cobble together something to fly out on to survive.


I've got the remains of the quite awful Aurora C-119 kit that was destined to be a model of The Phoenix, but as usual it ended up as 'pending'.....