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Title: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: TomZ on October 26, 2020, 12:25:21 AM
First time I'm trying to do a full build report here. Don't expect to see this finished anytime soon though. It will be at least spring next year before I can use my airbrush again as my spraying booth is in the shed and it's much too cold and damp at the moment.

I got this one from ebay here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Handley-Page-HP-42W-3D-fabricated-1-72-kit-Free-shipping/114449581563?hash=item1aa5ba05fb:g:qPwAAOSwWzddGgOd (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Handley-Page-HP-42W-3D-fabricated-1-72-kit-Free-shipping/114449581563?hash=item1aa5ba05fb:g:qPwAAOSwWzddGgOd) after someone posted an item about the Saro Princess they also do in 1/72.
They also do a HP-42 in 1/48 but this one is large enough for me  ;).

I've always thought the HP-42 was a fascinating aircraft and built the 1/144 Airfix one years ago. This one is completely 3D printed in what looks to be polystyrene and the parts look good. A lot of fine detail, some flash here and there. Some clean-up is required here and there.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50531861501_0636e5864d_b.jpg)

The larger parts are free from any spruces and the smaller ones or printed on some kind of sheet which holds them together. I started on the cabin interior and that all went together nicely.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50531140743_f559736485_b.jpg)

I did some tests with my usual Humbrol and Revell enamal paints and it looks like the parts can be painted without any priming, unlike the 3D printed stuff you get from Shapeways.

The windows are provided as sheet plastic and I'm rather dreading how that will go. The markings are vinyl stickers and I'm not sure if that will go down well on that corrugated fuselage.

To be continued...

TomZ


Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: Dizzyfugu on October 26, 2020, 01:49:53 AM
That's looking very good for a 3D print!

IIRC, there is a whiffy option in literature of a lost H.P. 42 in two "Yoko Tsuno" comics; not flashy, though:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/_nnoGwIaOZuF6POzxJTKPG2EI0_NN3nDOQUv6O3gGAtDJKIQxvI_I41qgYwVQhRy6yGIKpXt36OsiOC8bmCWNUn9CKiV6-BZ01GVBLc)

At least for the side windows, Humbrol's ClearFix could be an alternative, even though the openings could already be a little too large for the stuff.
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: zenrat on October 26, 2020, 03:30:00 AM
Interesting.

Can you glue the parts with normal model glue?
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 26, 2020, 06:17:15 AM
Goodness gracious, what a MONSTER that's going to be!

Most impressive and I'll be watching with great interest.
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: loupgarou on October 26, 2020, 06:36:30 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 26, 2020, 03:30:00 AM
Interesting.

Can you glue the parts with normal model glue?

In some other ebay ads, the seller specifies it's ABS, so normal plastic glue won't give a strong enough bond. I hope Tom has some specific glue for it.
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: TomZ on October 26, 2020, 07:14:30 AM
I've put the cabin interior together using CA glue. That works OK it seems.
Will do a test with normal polystyrene glue.

TomZ
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: NARSES2 on October 26, 2020, 07:33:15 AM
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on October 26, 2020, 01:49:53 AM
That's looking very good for a 3D print!


It is indeed Dizzy.

I've always had a bit of a thing for the HP 42. I think it's because all of the photos and posters I've seen of it standing in front of the old Croydon airport building.
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: TomZ on October 26, 2020, 07:55:50 AM
Just did a test with normal glue on two pieces of scrap.
Looks like it works quite well.

TomZ
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: The Rat on October 26, 2020, 08:23:39 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 26, 2020, 07:33:15 AM
I've always had a bit of a thing for the HP 42.

As have I. What always does it for me is that forward fuselage, so streamlined and 'modern' for its time, anachronistic against the rest of the maze of struts and wires. Ditto for the Curtis Condor.
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: stevehed on October 26, 2020, 08:58:19 AM
Looking forward to this one. Should be one big bird. Years ago I wondered about using the Airfix 1/144 as the basis for a whif bomber but could never get one. Silly money springs to mind.
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: Leading Observer on October 26, 2020, 09:27:26 AM
I shallfollow this with interest. had a quick squint at his ebay shop and spotted this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saunders-Roe-Princess-airliner-ver-3D-fabricated-1-72-ABS-kit-Free-shipping/114473164799?hash=item1aa721dfff:g:NWYAAOSw8jlcmNP- (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saunders-Roe-Princess-airliner-ver-3D-fabricated-1-72-ABS-kit-Free-shipping/114473164799?hash=item1aa721dfff:g:NWYAAOSw8jlcmNP-)
- that would be huge, but not as big as the 1/48th version!https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saunders-Roe-Princess-prototype-ver-3D-fabricated-1-48-ABSkit-Free-shipping/113908763442?hash=item1a857dcb32:g:LIwAAOSwxmNdcbby (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saunders-Roe-Princess-prototype-ver-3D-fabricated-1-48-ABSkit-Free-shipping/113908763442?hash=item1a857dcb32:g:LIwAAOSwxmNdcbby)
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 26, 2020, 09:38:52 AM
 1/48 Princess?  :o

That'd be about 4.5 FEET wingspan!
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: chrisonord on October 26, 2020, 11:14:08 AM
I was very tempted with an Andover  kit until I saw where it was coming from.  The import tax  will be a bit nasty  on one i dare say. What was the tax mand cut like on your  HP 42 Tom?
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: TomZ on October 26, 2020, 11:20:46 AM
Quote from: chrisonord on October 26, 2020, 11:14:08 AM
I was very tempted with an Andover  kit until I saw where it was coming from.  The import tax  will be a bit nasty  on one i dare say. What was the tax mand cut like on your  HP 42 Tom?

I was lucky and the package went through without being intercepted.
In Holland they tend to focus on some larger well-known web shops and this kind of "private" packages tend to slip through.
My purchases from Hobby Link Japan ALWAYS got caught and I stopped buying from them but my eBay purchases mostly get through.

TomZ
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: chrisonord on October 26, 2020, 11:46:37 AM
Hmm, interesting.  I wonder if I could be so lucky with our blood sucking customs in the UK. I am very tempted with the Andover though.  Although I  am  also tempted to  get an IL -14 and put some  western engines on it  and an RAF  disguise. Decisions decisions.
Chris
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: TomZ on October 26, 2020, 11:57:45 AM
He also has a website: http://one-man-model.main.jp/ (http://one-man-model.main.jp/)

You can download the instruction sheets there for all his models.

TomZ
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: chrisonord on October 26, 2020, 01:05:48 PM
Marvellous  :thumbsup:
Chris
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: buzzbomb on October 26, 2020, 03:12:59 PM
That is indeed a very fine print from filament type 3D device as the rafts appear to indicate it is.
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: royabulgaf on October 27, 2020, 09:35:20 AM
How are the corrugations?  Could you furnish a close up of the fuselage?
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: TomZ on October 28, 2020, 09:37:06 AM
Quote from: royabulgaf on October 27, 2020, 09:35:20 AM
How are the corrugations?  Could you furnish a close up of the fuselage?

Here are some close ups:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50540334693_57e6bc92bf_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50541061271_8dc9bbf627_b.jpg)

TomZ
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: PR19_Kit on October 28, 2020, 10:31:12 AM
AWESOME texture there.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: kitnut617 on October 28, 2020, 10:43:55 AM
Quote from: loupgarou on October 26, 2020, 06:36:30 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 26, 2020, 03:30:00 AM
Interesting.

Can you glue the parts with normal model glue?

In some other ebay ads, the seller specifies it's ABS, so normal plastic glue won't give a strong enough bond. I hope Tom has some specific glue for it.

Railway modelers know all about ABS, Plastistrut is made of it. I've got a bottle of liquid glue that works on it too as I use quite a bit of their neat stuff.
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: jcf on October 28, 2020, 12:01:55 PM
Quote from: loupgarou on October 26, 2020, 06:36:30 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 26, 2020, 03:30:00 AM
Interesting.

Can you glue the parts with normal model glue?

In some other ebay ads, the seller specifies it's ABS, so normal plastic glue won't give a strong enough bond. I hope Tom has some specific glue for it.

'Hot' cements for HIPS (High Impact Polystyrene) also work on ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene).
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: royabulgaf on October 28, 2020, 07:35:56 PM
The corrugations look better than I thought.  I saw some photos on another site and they looked like corduroy cloth.
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: NARSES2 on October 29, 2020, 07:18:33 AM
You spoil us Tom, using a 20.p coin  ;)
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: TomZ on October 29, 2020, 07:48:18 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 29, 2020, 07:18:33 AM
You spoil us Tom, using a 20.p coin  ;)

If you send me a 100 pound note I will do one with that  ;D ;D ;D ;D

TomZ
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: TomZ on November 10, 2020, 12:21:51 PM
Just before closing up the fuselage:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50588146147_67bd914f0e_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50588024641_35d1d98864_b.jpg)

TomZ
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: Scotaidh on November 11, 2020, 02:12:53 AM
Very nice!  :)   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: zenrat on November 11, 2020, 02:25:46 AM
Wow!

Although I am wondering how visible the dunnies will be when it's all closed up.

But still.  Wow!
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: TomZ on November 11, 2020, 02:42:02 AM
Quote from: zenrat on November 11, 2020, 02:25:46 AM
Although I am wondering how visible the dunnies will be when it's all closed up.

Yes, there is a very small round window for each, about 3mm diameter. So you probably won't see anything.
But as the super detailers (which I am definitely NOT) will tell you: I know it's there.....

TomZ
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: zenrat on November 11, 2020, 02:49:57 AM
Quote from: TomZ on November 11, 2020, 02:42:02 AM
Quote from: zenrat on November 11, 2020, 02:25:46 AM
Although I am wondering how visible the dunnies will be when it's all closed up.

Yes, there is a very small round window for each, about 3mm diameter. So you probably won't see anything.
But as the super detailers (which I am definitely NOT) will tell you: I know it's there.....

TomZ

Is there a tiny roll of paper on the holder?
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: TomZ on November 11, 2020, 03:00:32 AM
Quote from: zenrat on November 11, 2020, 02:49:57 AM
Quote from: TomZ on November 11, 2020, 02:42:02 AM
Quote from: zenrat on November 11, 2020, 02:25:46 AM
Although I am wondering how visible the dunnies will be when it's all closed up.
Yes, there is a very small round window for each, about 3mm diameter. So you probably won't see anything.
But as the super detailers (which I am definitely NOT) will tell you: I know it's there.....
TomZ

Is there a tiny roll of paper on the holder?

It's Covid time: All toilet paper taken by hoarders!

TomZ
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: NARSES2 on November 11, 2020, 06:11:51 AM
Quote from: TomZ on November 11, 2020, 03:00:32 AM

Is there a tiny roll of paper on the holder?

It's Covid time: All toilet paper taken by hoarders!

TomZ
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;D ;D

Nice work Tom  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: stevehed on November 11, 2020, 08:26:38 AM
Hmm, 1930's heyday for these aircraft. Has Hercule Poirot booked a flight?
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: TomZ on November 11, 2020, 08:37:21 AM
Quote from: stevehed on November 11, 2020, 08:26:38 AM
Hmm, 1930's heyday for these aircraft. Has Hercule Poirot booked a flight?

No but there is a miss J. Marple on the boarding list......


TomZ
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: chrisonord on November 11, 2020, 09:26:22 AM
Really like this Tom :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: royabulgaf on November 12, 2020, 08:17:24 PM
Personally, I would prefer Hercule Poirot.
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: TomZ on April 18, 2021, 10:25:54 AM
Some progress. Fuselage is closed up. Lower wings attached.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51124422240_0bc14c2c81_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51123620991_407c5fb2d3_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51123527818_017ba84cc6_b.jpg)

TomZ
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: Scotaidh on April 18, 2021, 01:11:45 PM
That's looking oddly appealing.  :)   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: philp on April 18, 2021, 08:29:59 PM
Nice,
His eBay site doesn't appear to be working or that could just be me.

Some interesting items.
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: Dizzyfugu on April 19, 2021, 02:29:45 AM
Oh, ah!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: TomZ on April 19, 2021, 02:34:09 AM
Quote from: philp on April 18, 2021, 08:29:59 PM
His eBay site doesn't appear to be working or that could just be me.

His items are on sale on eBay here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/onemanmodel/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from= (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/onemanmodel/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=)

TomZ
Title: Re: Handley Page HP-42 in 1/72
Post by: chrisonord on April 19, 2021, 06:06:28 AM
This is definitely looking very interesting Tom, I like it :thumbsup:
Chris