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Title: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: TomZ on August 18, 2020, 11:24:26 AM
Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50422288646_3a8e449e40_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jPDpJf)

Designed as a back-up for the Me-262 the Me-109TL was an adaptation of the Me-109 fighter for jet engines. When Hitler in 1944 decreed that the Me-262 was to be used solely as a bomber, the Luftwaffe was desperate for a way to get a jet fighter.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50421594438_3d150b6c97_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jPzRn9)

Messerschmitt came up with the idea to restart development of the Me-109TL. This would be advertised as "just a new 109 variant" and would open the way to get jet fighter aircraft to the Luftwaffe. The Me-109TL used the fuselage, tail and outer wings of a Me-109K. the forward fuselage was new due to the removal of the piston engine. The new nose housed four 30mm MK108 canon.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50421594433_3c37b75e4a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jPzRn4)

A new wing centre section was designed which held two Jumo 004 engines in underwing nacelles. The new wing featured an inward retracting landing gear, removing the reason of the vast majority of the 109's ground accidents.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50422458447_f31851fa1e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jPEhcR)

Due to the great communality with the 109K, the first 109TLs were delivered in June 1945. For a stopgap design the new fighter performed surprisingly well. In 1945 a total of 900 Me-109TL-1s were delivered with a further 2400 following in 1946.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50422289056_b1af620e6a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jPDpRj)

The Me-109TL remained in service with the Luftwaffe until the type was replaced with the Focke Wulf Ta-226 Flitzer in 1948. Besides in the Luftwaffe the Me-109TL was also used by the air forces of Hungary, Bulgaria and Italy. In 1948 a number of ex Luftwaffe aircraft were sold to Finland and Spain.

Model: Antares Resin 1/48

TomZ
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: chrisonord on August 18, 2020, 03:55:46 PM
Very nice  Tom and completely plausible too :thumbsup:
Chris
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Post by: comrade harps on August 18, 2020, 04:01:11 PM
Sweet  :wub:
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: Tophe on August 18, 2020, 11:04:51 PM
Well done, with harmonious silhouette as result! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: Dizzyfugu on August 19, 2020, 12:48:44 AM
Sleek.
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: Old Wombat on August 19, 2020, 03:37:21 AM
Looks good & looks plausible. Excellent job, Tom! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: zenrat on August 19, 2020, 03:38:31 AM
Good job.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: dumaniac on August 19, 2020, 05:40:01 AM
Beautiful looking aircraft - I scratch built this in 48 scale. Simple conversion.
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Post by: NARSES2 on August 19, 2020, 06:15:45 AM
Looks really sleek Tom  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Wurgerman on August 21, 2020, 10:05:43 PM
Excellent build and finish, very convincing !

Wurgerman
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Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on August 22, 2020, 08:26:53 AM
Good looking and very believable - I like it! :thumbsup:
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Post by: McColm on August 22, 2020, 07:11:24 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: su27rules on August 23, 2020, 06:25:18 AM
 :wub: :thumbsup: :mellow:
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: Tophe on August 23, 2020, 10:11:28 AM
The Me-109TLZ had surprisingly 2 engines only, not 3 nor 4, there is probably a technical explanation (other than the lack of intermediate angle source for photo editing)... ;)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kristofmeunier.fr%2Fme109tlz-2.jpg&hash=89efed1f2d922005ca28ed2f48cf46c564dc90a1)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: Tophe on August 24, 2020, 02:08:59 AM
Quote from: Tophe on August 23, 2020, 10:11:28 AM
The Me-109TLZ had surprisingly 2 engines only, not 3 nor 4, there is probably a technical explanation (other than the lack of intermediate angle source for photo editing)... ;)
I have found the technical explanation!: there was no engine(s) between fuselages but the 2-engined aircraft was an intermediate step before the final 4-engined one: <_<
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kristofmeunier.fr%2Fme109tlz-22.jpg&hash=fff34106ac2a317e9ff1bfa09116ca13de30927a)
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Post by: su27rules on August 24, 2020, 02:21:13 AM
 :mellow: :mellow:
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: Old Wombat on August 24, 2020, 03:20:45 AM
Interestingly, but, perhaps, not surprisingly, the left engine of both pairs sits forward of the right engine. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: Tophe on August 24, 2020, 04:16:20 AM
I am not sure I understand, but: yes, on slanting view, the jet closer to the observer is in front of the other on both sides:
(https://i.imgur.com/z7yJc8C.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: Scotaidh on August 25, 2020, 01:39:18 AM
I thought you might have two in the middle between the fuselages - one on top of the wing and one under.  :)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: Tophe on August 25, 2020, 01:45:28 AM
Yes, it is very possible on a vectorial drawing but here on bitmap editing, I lack source for engines on the centerline. Maybe it is possible with morphing between port and starboard engines. I am not sure Corel Photopaint is able to do that. I will check, or maybe draw a vectorial equivalent, without TomZ's source (this would not be here as celebration). :unsure:
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: Tophe on August 25, 2020, 03:57:55 AM
In my Corel Draw Home Suite software, I have found no morphing tool in the bitmap part (Photopaint) but there is one in the vectorial part (Draw itself), so I had to draw a vectorial view of TomZ's picture then a morphing created the central engine required by Scotaidh!: <_<
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kristofmeunier.fr%2FMe109TL3.jpg&hash=47780db75f4011a98e04b77226271dd1a59812fc)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-109TL-2
Post by: Scotaidh on August 25, 2020, 01:17:53 PM
Quote from: Tophe on August 25, 2020, 03:57:55 AM
In my Corel Draw Home Suite software, I have found no morphing tool in the bitmap part (Photopaint) but there is one in the vectorial part (Draw itself), so I had to draw a vectorial view of TomZ's picture then a morphing created the central engine required by Scotaidh!: <_<
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kristofmeunier.fr%2FMe109TL3.jpg&hash=47780db75f4011a98e04b77226271dd1a59812fc)

Formidable!  Well done, my friend - it looks good.  :)