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Title: Plusmodel
Post by: Mossie on July 03, 2020, 02:20:59 AM
Plusmodel have released two injection moulded versions of the Ryan Firebee, a KDA-1 and BQM-34.  The BQM-34 comes in two boxings, with or without a loading trolley.

You get two models in the box, along with several pylons for different aircraft.

https://www.plusmodel.cz/en/KDA-1-Firebee

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235067226-172-ryan-kda-1bqm-34-firebee-by-plus-model-released/

I can think of all sorts of things you could whiff with a Firebee.
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 03, 2020, 03:46:15 AM
What a fascinating looking device, or devices.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: zenrat on July 03, 2020, 05:04:33 AM
Quote from: Mossie on July 03, 2020, 02:20:59 AM

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235067226-172-ryan-kda-1bqm-34-firebee-by-plus-model-released/


Miserable bunch over there aren't they.

These look great.  Would there be enough room to squeeze a pilot into one?
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 03, 2020, 05:22:02 AM
Quote from: zenrat on July 03, 2020, 05:04:33 AM

  Would there be enough room to squeeze a pilot into one?


They're 21 ft long, 12 ft span and 7 ft high, so I reckon he'd need to be a VERY small pilot.  :o
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: zenrat on July 03, 2020, 05:53:52 AM
I'll hold out hope for a 48th or 35th version then and scalorama it.
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: NARSES2 on July 03, 2020, 06:26:11 AM
Quote from: zenrat on July 03, 2020, 05:53:52 AM
I'll hold out hope for a 48th or 35th version then and scalorama it.

Or use a 1/144 pilot figure ?
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: The Wooksta! on July 03, 2020, 06:38:28 AM
Quote from: zenrat on July 03, 2020, 05:04:33 AM
Quote from: Mossie on July 03, 2020, 02:20:59 AM

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235067226-172-ryan-kda-1bqm-34-firebee-by-plus-model-released/


Miserable bunch over there aren't they.


Yes.  The Mods have clamped down on any dissent or real humour, what if's have their own sub forum - ostensibly and claimed by Mike to showcase them but in my eyes it's just a f*cking ghetto to keep them away from the serious builds, so the purists don't get too upset.  I ignore that forum and post anything - rare these days - into the normal aircraft forums.  Sorry mate, I haven't pushed and promoted this side of the hobby for 25 years to be shoved into a ghetto as it's now being widely accepted by the mainstream.
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: Mossie on July 03, 2020, 07:52:47 AM
The BQM-34 might work as a small 1/72 turboprop with a boom, the KDA-1 as a turbojet.

I've also thought before that the KDA-1 looks like the engineering hull of a Starfleet ship...
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: Mossie on July 03, 2020, 08:01:35 AM
Quote from: The Wooksta! on July 03, 2020, 06:38:28 AM
Quote from: zenrat on July 03, 2020, 05:04:33 AM
Quote from: Mossie on July 03, 2020, 02:20:59 AM

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235067226-172-ryan-kda-1bqm-34-firebee-by-plus-model-released/


Miserable bunch over there aren't they.


Yes.  The Mods have clamped down on any dissent or real humour, what if's have their own sub forum - ostensibly and claimed by Mike to showcase them but in my eyes it's just a f*cking ghetto to keep them away from the serious builds, so the purists don't get too upset.  I ignore that forum and post anything - rare these days - into the normal aircraft forums.  Sorry mate, I haven't pushed and promoted this side of the hobby for 25 years to be shoved into a ghetto as it's now being widely accepted by the mainstream.

I thought that when I posted it, the default response for several members is to complain, even if there's nothing to complain about. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: Leading Observer on July 03, 2020, 01:58:47 PM
I love the Canadian Lancaster and Drone combo :wub:
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: Rheged on July 03, 2020, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 03, 2020, 05:22:02 AM
Quote from: zenrat on July 03, 2020, 05:04:33 AM

  Would there be enough room to squeeze a pilot into one?


They're 21 ft long, 12 ft span and 7 ft high, so I reckon he'd need to be a VERY small pilot.  :o

A pilot isn't totally impossible. They did manage to squeeze a pilot into the GAF Jindivik (the Pika variant)

Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: zenrat on July 03, 2020, 07:09:22 PM
Quote from: Mossie on July 03, 2020, 08:01:35 AM
Quote from: The Wooksta! on July 03, 2020, 06:38:28 AM
Quote from: zenrat on July 03, 2020, 05:04:33 AM
Quote from: Mossie on July 03, 2020, 02:20:59 AM

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235067226-172-ryan-kda-1bqm-34-firebee-by-plus-model-released/


Miserable bunch over there aren't they.


Yes.  The Mods have clamped down on any dissent or real humour, what if's have their own sub forum - ostensibly and claimed by Mike to showcase them but in my eyes it's just a f*cking ghetto to keep them away from the serious builds, so the purists don't get too upset.  I ignore that forum and post anything - rare these days - into the normal aircraft forums.  Sorry mate, I haven't pushed and promoted this side of the hobby for 25 years to be shoved into a ghetto as it's now being widely accepted by the mainstream.

I thought that when I posted it, the default response for several members is to complain, even if there's nothing to complain about. :rolleyes:

One model car forum I could name is full of people like that.  When a new mould is released all they can do is pick it to pieces.  Despite the fact they have been clamouring for more new subjects.  Nothing is ever good enough for them (except maybe a good thrashing).

A pair, or four, Firebees might make interesting underwing nacelles for a larger whiff.
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: PR19_Kit on July 04, 2020, 04:53:22 AM
Quote from: zenrat on July 03, 2020, 07:09:22 PM

A pair, or four, Firebees might make interesting underwing nacelles for a larger whiff.


Or ten of them under a B-36?  ;D
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: Weaver on June 08, 2022, 10:06:45 AM
Well this looks a natural for a 'sky pirates' what-if:

Martin T4M torpedo bomber on floats: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/PMAL7072?result-token=DQBr3

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/PMAL7072.jpg?t=1651064190)
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: zenrat on June 09, 2022, 05:24:23 AM
Quote from: Weaver on June 08, 2022, 10:06:45 AM
Well this looks a natural for a 'sky pirates' what-if:

Martin T4M torpedo bomber on floats: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/PMAL7072?result-token=DQBr3

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/PMAL7072.jpg?t=1651064190)

Seems to me to be a lot of aircraft to have one engine.  But it does look good.
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: NARSES2 on June 09, 2022, 05:56:14 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 09, 2022, 05:24:23 AM

Seems to me to be a lot of aircraft to have one engine.  But it does look good.

My thoughts exactly when I first saw it
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 09, 2022, 08:22:30 AM
The USN of the period didn't really go for BIG engines though, did they? Almost of the 'Yellow Winged Fleet' looked a bit underpowered.
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: Captain Canada on June 09, 2022, 08:01:46 PM
I like it ! I saw those Firebees at a Hobby Shop in Windsor, ON today. Pricey ! I need to grab a set from Belcher Bits one of these days.....
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: Wardukw on June 10, 2022, 12:41:33 AM
I love Kits B36 idea  ;D ;D but were the hrll would you put a model that big and with the price tag it has now ..over $300NZ now  :o but  :wacko:
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: Old Wombat on June 10, 2022, 05:14:18 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 09, 2022, 05:24:23 AM
Quote from: Weaver on June 08, 2022, 10:06:45 AM
Well this looks a natural for a 'sky pirates' what-if:

Martin T4M torpedo bomber on floats: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/PMAL7072?result-token=DQBr3

(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/PMAL7072.jpg?t=1651064190)

Seems to me to be a lot of aircraft to have one engine.  But it does look good.

Didn't they (almost) all look oversized for their engines in that era? :unsure:

Fairey Seal;
(https://naval-encyclopedia.com/naval-aviation/ww2/uk/photos/Fairey_Seal.jpg)

Parnall Peto;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Parnall-Peto-N181.jpg)

Blackburn Ripon;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Blackburn_Ripon_IIF.jpg)

Blackburn Dart:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/BlDart.jpg)

Bristol Baffin:
(https://navalairhistory.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/blackburnbaffin1.jpg?w=470&h=268)

Westland Walrus;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/WWalrus.jpg)

Blackburn Blackburn:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/50/f1/f2/50f1f22776ed43170257a266eba10399.jpg)

And, last but far from least;

Avro Bison;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Avro_Bison_in_Flight.jpg)



Oddly, I found this rather pretty plane which belies the reputation of its manufacturer;

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Blackburn_Shark_MIKAN_3581010.jpg)
Blackburn Shark.
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 10, 2022, 05:42:37 AM
The Blackburn and the Bison look WOEFULLY underpowered, yes, and I agree about the Shark, it's almost elegant!

I still have a couple of the FROG Shark kits in The Loft. One day.............
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: kerick on June 10, 2022, 08:04:46 AM
Is it the size of the engine or the gigantic fuselage? The Blackburn and the Bison look like flying hotel rooms!
Title: Re: Plusmodel
Post by: Rheged on June 10, 2022, 09:21:41 AM
Because they take so long to get anywhere, the pilot gets bored (and sometimes an attack of cramp)  The huge fuselage allows his mate to take over for a few minutes whilst the pilot  has a brisk walk around to loosen the cramped muscles.