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Title: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: TomZ on June 15, 2020, 11:50:55 AM
Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour

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After the armistice at the end of 1943 German Kriegsmarine entered a phase of rapid expansion. Their failure during the war to achieve any significant naval feat with their surface force prompted an accelerated building program. A new battleship was built to replace the Bismark which was sunk during the war. This ship, built to the same design as the Bismark and the Tirpitz was named the Holtzendorff and entered service in 1946. The German aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin was joined by the Peter Strasser and Manfred von Richthofen.

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In 1947 the German navy undertook a goodwill tour around the world visiting their allies. The Three aircraft carriers, the Tirpitz and the Holtzendorff, joined by a number of destroyers sailed from Hamburg in October 1947. Their first stop was the Mediterranean where they visited Italy and Egypt.

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After that they sailed around Africa to Japanese occupied India and after that Japan itself. The pictures with this article show the German flotilla in the Japanese Naval dockyard of Yokosuka.

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After visiting Japan, the ships sailed for South America, first going to Chili and after that to Argentina. From there they crossed the Atlantic back to Germany. The trip was the end of the operational career of the three Graf zeppelin class carriers. From 1948 onwards they were relegated to training duties. Five new carriers of the much bigger Bodensee class took their place. These were optimised for the operation of jet aircraft like the Me-262T and Hs-132F.

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The model started out from two 1/3000 scale Fujimi kits of the Yokosuka and Sasebo naval dockyards. It was expanded with scratch-built harbour parts and 3D model ships from Shapeways.
The aircraft are 3D printed models from Shapeways.

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TomZ
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Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: Knightflyer on June 15, 2020, 12:01:20 PM
WOW! Incredible  ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: Rheged on June 15, 2020, 12:14:09 PM
Gosh!!!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: nönöbär on June 15, 2020, 12:20:19 PM
Nice one! How big is it in total?
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: TomZ on June 15, 2020, 12:23:43 PM
Quote from: nönöbär on June 15, 2020, 12:20:19 PM
Nice one! How big is it in total?

About 40 by 60 centimetres.

TomZ
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 15, 2020, 01:26:59 PM
GASP!  :o
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: philp on June 15, 2020, 05:51:49 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: nönöbär on June 15, 2020, 10:42:50 PM
Quote from: TomZ on June 15, 2020, 12:23:43 PM
Quote from: nönöbär on June 15, 2020, 12:20:19 PM
Nice one! How big is it in total?

About 40 by 60 centimetres.

TomZ

Cool, not so big. I have a few hundred 1:1250 scale ships here and wanted to build a diorama for them, but after some inital planning I found out that it would a too big to put somewhere..... :)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: TomZ on June 15, 2020, 10:47:46 PM
Quote from: nönöbär on June 15, 2020, 10:42:50 PM
Quote from: TomZ on June 15, 2020, 12:23:43 PM
Quote from: nönöbär on June 15, 2020, 12:20:19 PM
Nice one! How big is it in total?
About 40 by 60 centimetres.
TomZ
Cool, not so big. I have a few hundred 1:1250 scale ships here and wanted to build a diorama for them, but after some inital planning I found out that it would a too big to put somewhere..... :)

This is 1/3000. That makes it a lot smaller.

TomZ
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: NARSES2 on June 15, 2020, 11:47:47 PM
Quote from: Rheged on June 15, 2020, 12:14:09 PM
Gosh!!!

Beautifully understated  ;D

Amazing work Tom  :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: Dizzyfugu on June 16, 2020, 12:12:58 AM
Cool, and impressive.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 16, 2020, 02:51:07 AM
How long is a carrier in 1/3000 scale  please?

I'm trying to get my head round the size of this, and failing.............
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: zenrat on June 16, 2020, 03:03:45 AM
Wow, that's really great.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: TomZ on June 16, 2020, 04:17:52 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 16, 2020, 02:51:07 AM
How long is a carrier in 1/3000 scale  please?

I'm trying to get my head round the size of this, and failing.............

The Graf Zeppelin is 8.8cm, that's 3.46 inch for you imperial types.
The wingspan of the Bf-109 on deck is 3.1mm, which translates to 0.13 inch.

TomZ
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 16, 2020, 04:30:17 AM
Quote from: TomZ on June 16, 2020, 04:17:52 AM

The Graf Zeppelin is 8.8cm, that's 3.46 inch for you imperial types.
The wingspan of the Bf-109 on deck is 3.1mm, which translates to 0.13 inch.


Jeepers! That's TINY? A 3mm span model is only just about visible!

Hats off to you TomZ, that's exceptional work.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: kitbasher on June 16, 2020, 04:37:14 AM
Well that's every 2021 Whiffie award sorted!
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: TomZ on June 16, 2020, 04:55:18 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 16, 2020, 04:30:17 AM
Jeepers! That's TINY? A 3mm span model is only just about visible!

Believe me, a 3mm model is NOT visible when it falls to the floor. I still have half a squadron down there somewhere  :angry:

TomZ
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: buzzbomb on June 16, 2020, 05:07:09 AM
There is all sorts of awesome in the one spot right in that dio... excellent work <_<
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: nönöbär on June 16, 2020, 11:52:31 AM
Quote from: TomZ on June 16, 2020, 04:55:18 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 16, 2020, 04:30:17 AM
Jeepers! That's TINY? A 3mm span model is only just about visible!

Believe me, a 3mm model is NOT visible when it falls to the floor. I still have half a squadron down there somewhere  :angry:

TomZ

Oh yes, this is small. And about those planes that got lost on the floor, I do not know how many of my brave 1/700 scale sailors have been lost the last years. Surprisingly, its mainly my British soldier that try to escape, don't know why.

Saw those Fujimi kits now and then and was fighting with me to get some, but now when I see yours, hmm maybe...

But this reminds me if I should run some 1:3000 scale tests with the 3D printer. :)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on June 16, 2020, 12:45:37 PM
Incredible! i have had to have a long sit down just thinking about such a creation. Well done. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: philp on June 16, 2020, 09:00:40 PM
Quote from: nönöbär on June 15, 2020, 10:42:50 PM

Cool, not so big. I have a few hundred 1:1250 scale ships here and wanted to build a diorama for them, but after some inital planning I found out that it would a too big to put somewhere..... :)

You can take a queue from the RR guys and make it modular.  Then you can piece it together at a show if you want to show it all off.  I am trying to do a 72nd scale SAM-2 site and it would be about 6' square which is a little hard to handle trying to get it through doorways.  Been toying with several smaller bases centering on each SAM launcher, the Fan Song and maybe the P-12 and then I can put them kind of closer on the tables to display them or even enter them separately.

Also, I noticed this diorama has already been rightfully nominated for a Whiffie (twice) so I don't have to do that.
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: Caveman on June 17, 2020, 12:03:20 AM
Quote from: TomZ on June 16, 2020, 04:17:52 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 16, 2020, 02:51:07 AM
How long is a carrier in 1/3000 scale  please?

I'm trying to get my head round the size of this, and failing.............

The Graf Zeppelin is 8.8cm, that's 3.46 inch for you imperial types.
The wingspan of the Bf-109 on deck is 3.1mm, which translates to 0.13 inch.

TomZ

Must have been tricky to calibrate the gauges on the instrument panels accurately...  ;D
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: nönöbär on June 17, 2020, 01:32:11 AM
Quote from: philp on June 16, 2020, 09:00:40 PM

You can take a queue from the RR guys and make it modular.  Then you can piece it together at a show if you want to show it all off.  I am trying to do a 72nd scale SAM-2 site and it would be about 6' square which is a little hard to handle trying to get it through doorways.  Been toying with several smaller bases centering on each SAM launcher, the Fan Song and maybe the P-12 and then I can put them kind of closer on the tables to display them or even enter them separately.

Also, I noticed this diorama has already been rightfully nominated for a Whiffie (twice) so I don't have to do that.

Yes, this would be possible, but it still needs some space. Too much according to my GF.... And we all know who is the boss at home :)
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: zenrat on June 17, 2020, 04:03:54 AM
Quote from: Caveman on June 17, 2020, 12:03:20 AM
Quote from: TomZ on June 16, 2020, 04:17:52 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 16, 2020, 02:51:07 AM
How long is a carrier in 1/3000 scale  please?

I'm trying to get my head round the size of this, and failing.............

The Graf Zeppelin is 8.8cm, that's 3.46 inch for you imperial types.
The wingspan of the Bf-109 on deck is 3.1mm, which translates to 0.13 inch.

TomZ

Must have been tricky to calibrate the gauges on the instrument panels accurately...  ;D

Did you preshade the panel lines?
:mellow:
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: TomZ on June 17, 2020, 04:53:59 AM
Quote from: Caveman on June 17, 2020, 12:03:20 AM
Must have been tricky to calibrate the gauges on the instrument panels accurately...  ;D

I had to correct the rivets on the tail of the me-109's as well. Completely wrong!   :laugh: :laugh:

TomZ

Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: NARSES2 on June 17, 2020, 05:17:34 AM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kriegsmarine 1947 World Tour
Post by: Caveman on June 17, 2020, 02:43:22 PM
Quote from: TomZ on June 17, 2020, 04:53:59 AM
Quote from: Caveman on June 17, 2020, 12:03:20 AM
Must have been tricky to calibrate the gauges on the instrument panels accurately...  ;D

I had to correct the rivets on the tail of the me-109's as well. Completely wrong!   :laugh: :laugh:

TomZ

;D :thumbsup: