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Title: Bearcat, on floats *finished*
Post by: sandiego89 on June 07, 2019, 03:59:34 PM
In early 1945, the US Navy sent out an urgent proposal to manufactures for a high performance float plane fighter that could serve as interceptor aboard battleships, cruiser and icebreakers.  An aircraft with excellent climb was needed to meet the Kamikaze threat in the Pacific, and to intercept long range Fw200 Condor flights in the Greenland area as the resurgent Atlantic front continued on....

Bearcat on Floats, 1/72, by Sandiego89

Revell Bearcat and ancient Lindberg Kingfisher.   

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Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: kitnut617 on June 07, 2019, 05:22:08 PM
You don't think they would have gone like a Wildcatfish then ?
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: sandiego89 on June 07, 2019, 05:42:28 PM
Quote from: kitnut617 on June 07, 2019, 05:22:08 PM
You don't think they would have gone like a Wildcatfish then ?

Perhaps, but I think less drag with a single main float would give better performance.  The wildcatfish looks very draggy with those big floats and struts. This will be more like a Rufe Or SC-1, which look a bit more sleek.   
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: zenrat on June 07, 2019, 05:59:41 PM
Cool.
Can't wait.
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: NARSES2 on June 08, 2019, 02:16:25 AM
That Revel boxing is a nice little kit. I've built a couple and still have one in the "original ?" Monogram box. Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: sandiego89 on June 08, 2019, 07:48:08 AM
work commencing. 

The Float was equipped with a small compartment aft of the strut that could accommodate one person for air/sea rescue work, or spy insertion/recovery.

Harrier T2/T4 horizontal stabilizer as central strut.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/923/TdLOHs.jpg)   
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: Weaver on June 08, 2019, 09:23:04 AM
Sweet. The Kingfisher's always tempting because you can nick the float for something else, then put it on it's wheeled gear and nobody recognises it. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: sandiego89 on June 08, 2019, 09:32:27 AM
Quote from: Weaver on June 08, 2019, 09:23:04 AM
Sweet. The Kingfisher's always tempting because you can nick the float for something else, then put it on it's wheeled gear and nobody recognises it. :thumbsup:

Indeed.  It is a nice float- but a wheeled Kingfisher looks funny.

Paint on. 

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Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: sandiego89 on June 08, 2019, 10:45:22 AM
While the paint dries (always a challenge for me in these one week builds), scratching up a catapult.  Evergreen styrene. 

old Curtis SC-1 test fit. 

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Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: Weaver on June 08, 2019, 02:29:44 PM
Quote from: sandiego89 on June 08, 2019, 09:32:27 AM
Quote from: Weaver on June 08, 2019, 09:23:04 AM
Sweet. The Kingfisher's always tempting because you can nick the float for something else, then put it on it's wheeled gear and nobody recognises it. :thumbsup:

Indeed.  It is a nice float- but a wheeled Kingfisher looks funny.


If it's the one where the wing is moulded in one piece, tip-to-tip, and fits through holes in the fuselage, then my idea was to convert it to a braced parasol wing and call it a US equivalent of the Lysander.
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: sandiego89 on June 08, 2019, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: Weaver on June 08, 2019, 02:29:44 PM
Quote from: sandiego89 on June 08, 2019, 09:32:27 AM
Quote from: Weaver on June 08, 2019, 09:23:04 AM
Sweet. The Kingfisher's always tempting because you can nick the float for something else, then put it on it's wheeled gear and nobody recognises it. :thumbsup:

Indeed.  It is a nice float- but a wheeled Kingfisher looks funny.


If it's the one where the wing is moulded in one piece, tip-to-tip, and fits through holes in the fuselage, then my idea was to convert it to a braced parasol wing and call it a US equivalent of the Lysander.

The Lindberg Kingfisher does have the one piece wing that slides through the fuselage (the Bearcat does also!). Actually a nice way to do a wing.   

Posed for your inspiration!

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/mBmmow.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/b0lMuC.jpg)

Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: Tophe on June 08, 2019, 07:59:30 PM
Good!
My late uncle was a pilot of Bearcat, he would love this derivative I am sure. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: kerick on June 09, 2019, 09:17:11 AM
That parasol wing looks very doable! Maybe some nice spatted landing gear to go with it! :wub: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: Weaver on June 09, 2019, 10:30:46 PM
Quote from: sandiego89 on June 08, 2019, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: Weaver on June 08, 2019, 02:29:44 PM
Quote from: sandiego89 on June 08, 2019, 09:32:27 AM
Quote from: Weaver on June 08, 2019, 09:23:04 AM
Sweet. The Kingfisher's always tempting because you can nick the float for something else, then put it on it's wheeled gear and nobody recognises it. :thumbsup:

Indeed.  It is a nice float- but a wheeled Kingfisher looks funny.


If it's the one where the wing is moulded in one piece, tip-to-tip, and fits through holes in the fuselage, then my idea was to convert it to a braced parasol wing and call it a US equivalent of the Lysander.

The Lindberg Kingfisher does have the one piece wing that slides through the fuselage (the Bearcat does also!). Actually a nice way to do a wing.   

Posed for your inspiration!

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/mBmmow.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/b0lMuC.jpg)

Thank you - it does look like a natural, doesn't it?  :thumbsup:

With the wing being so thick and designed as a cnatilever structure anyway, maybe you could say that it doesn't need bracing struts (like a Do.27/28) and that's its selling point compared to a Lizzie or an Hs.126.
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: Scotaidh on June 10, 2019, 09:26:12 AM
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Thank you - it does look like a natural, doesn't it?  :thumbsup:

With the wing being so thick and designed as a cnatilever structure anyway, maybe you could say that it doesn't need bracing struts (like a Do.27/28) and that's its selling point compared to a Lizzie or an Hs.126.
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Plus you then have those nice big elliptical viewing ports on the lower sides - sure to be a great help in keeping an eye on the guy in the ocean whom you're supposed to rescue, so's you don't lose him in the chop.
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: sandiego89 on June 12, 2019, 06:51:46 AM
Float on

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Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 12, 2019, 09:09:19 AM
Looking REALLY good now Dave.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: NARSES2 on June 13, 2019, 06:17:12 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 12, 2019, 09:09:19 AM
Looking REALLY good now Dave.  :thumbsup:

She certainly is  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: CANSO on June 13, 2019, 08:53:19 AM
Quote from: sandiego89 on June 12, 2019, 06:51:46 AM
Float on
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Do you plan to have some sort of (retractable) wing floats like the Kawanishi E15K?
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: zenrat on June 14, 2019, 04:13:48 AM
IIRC the wing floats on the E15K were retractable and inflatable...

...and didn't work properly.
I also think they could be jettisoned in an emergency for a faster getaway.
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats
Post by: sandiego89 on June 15, 2019, 11:43:21 AM
Complete

Bearcat F8N operating from the USS NORTHWIND off Greenland, late 1945. 

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Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats *finished*
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 15, 2019, 01:43:15 PM
I can't imagine how Grumman didn't do that for real, it looks just SO plausible!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats *finished*
Post by: Weaver on June 15, 2019, 04:42:55 PM
That looks great - nice one!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats *finished*
Post by: zenrat on June 15, 2019, 06:07:15 PM
Paint it Japanese and you'd really confuse the JMNs.

Good job Dave.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats *finished*
Post by: Tophe on June 15, 2019, 06:09:46 PM
Congratulations modeller/engineer! :thumbsup: :bow:
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats *finished*
Post by: The Rat on June 15, 2019, 06:32:38 PM
Most excellent!  :thumbsup: :cheers:
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats *finished*
Post by: Old Wombat on June 16, 2019, 12:21:54 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats *finished*
Post by: NARSES2 on June 16, 2019, 06:16:58 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 15, 2019, 01:43:15 PM
I can't imagine how Grumman didn't do that for real, it looks just SO plausible!  :thumbsup:

It really does, doesn't it ?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats *finished*
Post by: TomZ on June 16, 2019, 10:28:37 AM
Looks VERY good!

TomZ
Title: Re: Bearcat, on floats *finished*
Post by: Captain Canada on June 25, 2019, 05:28:33 AM
Oh yeah ! I like that one. Defo going in my idea pile. I like how you joined the float as well....thanks for the tip ! The parasol Kingfisher is another neat idea. Hopefully you carry on with it !

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