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Title: CAC CA-23, 75 Squadron, RAAF, 1960
Post by: rickshaw on May 27, 2018, 07:17:23 PM
CAC CA-23, 75 Squadron, RAAF, 1960

The CAC CA-23 was a planned supersonic, twinjet, two-seat, all-weather fighter aircraft designed by the Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation.

In 1949, the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) began assessing replacements for its locally-built Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation (CAC) Mustangs, Gloster Meteors and De Havilland Australia (DHA) Vampires. A series of designs were considered, including the Grumman Panther and an unconventional, twin-jet all-weather fighter: the CAC CA-23.

The Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation (CAC) had developed an extensive in-house design office and capability stemming from Australian Government funding during World War 2. On the basis of the CAC track record and a detailed proposal, the Department of Defence Production granted funds to develop the CAC CA-23 concept.

The CAC CA-23 delta wing design concept was a two-seat all-weather fighter with a low set tail. It was originally planned to be powered by two Rolls-Royce Tay engines; the final version was however designed for the more powerful Rolls-Royce Avon turbojet engines. The aircraft was to be fitted with the most up to date radar and electronic equipment. Its anticipated performance was to be in the region of Mach 1.5 which would have been much faster than any contemporary aircraft.

Over the life of the project dozens of mock-up models were made at different scales, with hundreds of detailed drawings, plus wind tunnel tests proving the delta wing was more than satisfactory. The program was described by the British visiting CAC at the time as "the company's project was a most ambitious design for a fighter and as advanced as anything yet seen in any other part of the world."

The four-year project was ordered into production in 1953 after extensive aeronautical R&D testing in wind tunnels in Australia and at the Royal Aircraft Establishment. The testing results were so promising and ground breaking for a delta wing design that the Royal Aircraft Establishment requested permission to distribute the results to the major UK aircraft manufacturers and Avro Canada.

The CA-23 served with the RAAF in four squadrons – 75, 76, 77 and 78.  It also served with an Operational Conversion Unit (OCU), No. 80 Squadron.  Initialy equipped with four .50 cal HMGs, it was later equipped with four 20mm Cannon and two AIM-9B Sidewinder IR guided air-to-air missiles.

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The Model
The model is a resin one, by Uncle Les from Australia.  It was painted with a rattlecan of Silver paint from Bunnings Hardware with alfoil overlaid.   The markings represent a machine from 75 Squadron, cobbled together from the spares box.
Title: Re: CAC CA-23, 75 Squadron, RAAF, 1960[
Post by: TheChronicOne on May 27, 2018, 08:12:24 PM
Holy hell, that is funky! I love it!  :wub: :wub:
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Post by: zenrat on May 28, 2018, 03:14:12 AM
Your NMF looks great.  Well done.
:thumbsup:
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Post by: Old Wombat on May 28, 2018, 03:29:12 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: sandiego89 on May 28, 2018, 06:47:51 AM
That looks great! Well done.

Would like to see a clearer photo of the intakes and belly if you have them.  Imagine you needed some nose ballast!
Title: Re: CAC CA-23, 75 Squadron, RAAF, 1960[
Post by: rickshaw on May 28, 2018, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: sandiego89 on May 28, 2018, 06:47:51 AM
That looks great! Well done.

Would like to see a clearer photo of the intakes and belly if you have them.  Imagine you needed some nose ballast!

Nose ballast, yes, plus I had to hollow out the rear fuselage quite a lot to get it to sit on it's nose wheel naturally.  The problem was it was a solid resin fuselage!   :banghead:
Title: Re: CAC CA-23, 75 Squadron, RAAF, 1960
Post by: kitnut617 on May 29, 2018, 02:48:59 AM
Nice  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I'm going to build my copy with swing wings ----  but not using Russian wings like Uncle Les did.
Title: Re: CAC CA-23, 75 Squadron, RAAF, 1960
Post by: NARSES2 on May 29, 2018, 06:41:26 AM
Interesting looking aircraft and a design I was unaware of (had to look it up) Impressive work mate  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CAC CA-23, 75 Squadron, RAAF, 1960
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 31, 2018, 06:01:55 AM
Jeepers, that looks good Brian.  :thumbsup:

It sounds as if it was an RW design a some stage, what a pity it never got built as it looks like a Lightning turned sideways. They'd have made an interesting comparison pair.
Title: Re: CAC CA-23, 75 Squadron, RAAF, 1960
Post by: Old Wombat on May 31, 2018, 07:23:49 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 31, 2018, 06:01:55 AM
It sounds as if it was an RW design a some stage, what a pity it never got built as it looks like a Lightning turned sideways. They'd have made an interesting comparison pair.

It was a real world design, Kit!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC_CA-23 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC_CA-23)
Title: Re: CAC CA-23, 75 Squadron, RAAF, 1960
Post by: PR19_Kit on May 31, 2018, 02:35:28 PM
Quote from: Old Wombat on May 31, 2018, 07:23:49 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 31, 2018, 06:01:55 AM
It sounds as if it was an RW design a some stage, what a pity it never got built as it looks like a Lightning turned sideways. They'd have made an interesting comparison pair.

It was a real world design, Kit!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC_CA-23 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC_CA-23)


Well I'll be damned.  :o

That's VERY interesting, and a total tale of woe for the Oz aviation industry because some narrow minded Brit was made a senior bloke in the MoD! Crazy!
Title: Re: CAC CA-23, 75 Squadron, RAAF, 1960
Post by: Old Wombat on May 31, 2018, 08:18:37 PM
That didn't help, Kit, but the final decision lay with the government of the day & that was, unfortunately, the excessively Anglophile Menzies cabinet.