I've thought for some time that 'Rotodyning' a Herky-bird would produce a real V/STOL aircraft with a useful capacity.
(I couldn't believe that no-one here hadn't already thought of this, so I did a search on "Rotodyne" prior to posting - apparently not.)
I have several Rotodynes in my SSR (Strategic Styrene Reserve), so all I need is a suitable C-130 ... perhaps a Transall would be better, or a Buffalo? I guess there are many potential conversions, depending on desired size. One could even have a range of such craft, from two-seat on up.
I'm thinking there'd be almost no end to the uses/roles for such birds - Coast Guard, Inshore Rescue, Assault, Supply, Customs, Surveillance, Border Patrol.
There have been a number of 'dynes modelled and shown on here in the past, but maybe not one merged with a C-130.
Sadly the search engine isn't as food as it might be and it's integral with the package so it can't be fixed apparently.
There was a thread discussing this somewhere here on the forum. All sorts of ideas came up and loads of pictures of some original RW projects too.
I even got a load of parts collected to do a ""C-130"" type 'dyne. I've even designed a couple of really big 'dynes too, had them posted but with the PB debacle they've all disappeared.
I'm building a Heliplane based on a C-130 with the tail from a Lockheed Constellation and the rotor stack comes the Mil 26 helicopter. There's two stubs one on each side of the fuselage that houses TF33 turbofans.
1/72 and there's pictures on my blog as well, that's where I got my idea from.
Yes, the Groen Gyro-Hercules has been discussed here and on Secret Projects.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.smugmug.com%2FBTS-2%2Fi-SSB63X3%2F0%2F3412366e%2FO%2Ftb_c130-lg.jpg&hash=578b09c4c492003895eb95fe82abb607f5a99c22)
As I've stated previously the wings would need to be shortened, kind of a Breguet 941
look would work.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Breguet_941_%C3%A0_Dugny.JPG/1024px-Breguet_941_%C3%A0_Dugny.JPG)
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 12:55:43 PM
As I've stated previously the wings would need to be shortened, kind of a Breguet 941
look would work.
Perish the thought! :o :banghead:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2018, 01:54:56 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 12:55:43 PM
As I've stated previously the wings would need to be shortened, kind of a Breguet 941
look would work.
Perish the thought! :o :banghead:
Well, if you wanted it to
actually perform in a semi-VTOL mode;), it'd be necessary, otherwise
the area under the rotor disc would just interfere, if it's rolling take-offs only, it's so-so.
Quote from: Scotaidh on January 01, 2018, 06:05:51 AM
I've thought for some time that 'Rotodyning' a Herky-bird would produce a real V/STOL aircraft with a useful capacity.
(I couldn't believe that no-one here hadn't already thought of this, so I did a search on "Rotodyne" prior to posting - apparently not.)
I have several Rotodynes in my SSR (Strategic Styrene Reserve), so all I need is a suitable C-130 ... perhaps a Transall would be better, or a Buffalo? I guess there are many potential conversions, depending on desired size. One could even have a range of such craft, from two-seat on up.
I'm thinking there'd be almost no end to the uses/roles for such birds - Coast Guard, Inshore Rescue, Assault, Supply, Customs, Surveillance, Border Patrol.
If you do a search using 'Groen', all sorts of threads pop up on here.
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2018, 01:54:56 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 12:55:43 PM
As I've stated previously the wings would need to be shortened, kind of a Breguet 941
look would work.
Perish the thought! :o :banghead:
Well, if you wanted it to actually perform in a semi-VTOL mode;), it'd be necessary, otherwise
the area under the rotor disc would just interfere, if it's rolling take-offs only, it's so-so.
I was joking.
(see my infamous tag line..........)
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2018, 03:08:46 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2018, 01:54:56 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 12:55:43 PM
As I've stated previously the wings would need to be shortened, kind of a Breguet 941
look would work.
Perish the thought! :o :banghead:
Well, if you wanted it to actually perform in a semi-VTOL mode;), it'd be necessary, otherwise
the area under the rotor disc would just interfere, if it's rolling take-offs only, it's so-so.
I was joking.
(see my infamous tag line..........)
Just pivot the wings ... ;)
Quote from: Scotaidh on January 01, 2018, 03:35:26 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2018, 03:08:46 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2018, 01:54:56 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 12:55:43 PM
As I've stated previously the wings would need to be shortened, kind of a Breguet 941
look would work.
Perish the thought! :o :banghead:
Well, if you wanted it to actually perform in a semi-VTOL mode;), it'd be necessary, otherwise
the area under the rotor disc would just interfere, if it's rolling take-offs only, it's so-so.
I was joking.
(see my infamous tag line..........)
Just pivot the wings ... ;)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2b/75/88/2b758840c370f81999c51649fee81046--west-wing-image.jpg)
No no no, a tilt wing Herky Bird is one of an altogether feather.
Tell you what Scotaidh, if you get this off the ground then i'll start on my long planned Nenes & Pegasus 'dyne.
Quote from: zenrat on January 02, 2018, 12:09:50 AM
No no no, a tilt wing Herky Bird is one of an altogether feather.
Tell you what Scotaidh, if you get this off the ground then i'll start on my long planned Nenes & Pegasus 'dyne.
Cross-Kit a Fairey Rotodyne with a Dornier 31 ?
Quote from: scooter on January 01, 2018, 03:44:20 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2b/75/88/2b758840c370f81999c51649fee81046--west-wing-image.jpg)
You know, with the short wings the A400M has, give it some bigger props (maybe contra-props) and then space the engines out a bit more along the wing -------- ;D
Quote from: Thorvic on January 02, 2018, 12:19:30 AM
Quote from: zenrat on January 02, 2018, 12:09:50 AM
No no no, a tilt wing Herky Bird is one of an altogether feather.
Tell you what Scotaidh, if you get this off the ground then i'll start on my long planned Nenes & Pegasus 'dyne.
Cross-Kit a Fairey Rotodyne with a Dornier 31 ?
Now that's an idea!
The Rotodyne works with the Fokker F27, which reminds me I must finish that build.
A Rotodyne and the Avro Shackleton, erm might work :banghead:
Quote from: Caveman on January 02, 2018, 03:47:15 AM
Quote from: Thorvic on January 02, 2018, 12:19:30 AM
Quote from: zenrat on January 02, 2018, 12:09:50 AM
No no no, a tilt wing Herky Bird is one of an altogether feather.
Tell you what Scotaidh, if you get this off the ground then i'll start on my long planned Nenes & Pegasus 'dyne.
Cross-Kit a Fairey Rotodyne with a Dornier 31 ?
Now that's an idea!
I agree, but does someone make a kit of the Dornier 31?
Quote from: Scotaidh on January 02, 2018, 10:34:41 AM
Quote from: Caveman on January 02, 2018, 03:47:15 AM
Quote from: Thorvic on January 02, 2018, 12:19:30 AM
Quote from: zenrat on January 02, 2018, 12:09:50 AM
No no no, a tilt wing Herky Bird is one of an altogether feather.
Tell you what Scotaidh, if you get this off the ground then i'll start on my long planned Nenes & Pegasus 'dyne.
Cross-Kit a Fairey Rotodyne with a Dornier 31 ?
Now that's an idea!
I agree, but does someone make a kit of the Dornier 31?
Planet and Classic Plane do Resin versions, kinda hoping A&A eventually do the Dornier 31 in injection moulded plastic to go with the VJ-101 and their planned VAK-191
always this version https://ok.ru/video/32493079045
Quote from: lenny100 on January 02, 2018, 02:15:34 PM
always this version https://ok.ru/video/32493079045
Ah yes, I tried that version during my MSFS days, but I never could get it to transition properly. They managed it for the vid though. :thumbsup: