Got to admit, these BANDAI kits are pretty fun. :thumbsup: Not only have I done the 1/500 Space Battleship Yamato and the 1/1000 Gamillas Darold Battlecarrier, but I also find myself sitting down tonight to start on the 1/72 scale SBY2199 Type 99 Cosmo Falcon Fighter. There are two versions of this kit: A grey colored fighter and a blue colored fighter. I have the blue one as shown below from some Internet pics I found.
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I'm currently looking for alternative whif paint schemes to use for my Cosmo Falcon build. Anybody got any ideas? I did find one alternative whif on DeviantArt as shown below. I don't want to repeat what that guy did, but rather make my fighter into a US Navy or Air Force space superiority fighter.
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Being in the midst of the soviet GB, it would only be proper to suggest a sovietised version. Looks wise it's already there, could even have been Sukhoi's rival to the ferret?
I've got one of these. I'm keen to see what you do with it.
How about Swedish fields & meadows splinter pattern?
A weird looking device for sure. :o
Are those the intakes on top of the fuselage either side of the fin?
Quote from: zenrat on February 23, 2017, 11:47:14 PM
How about Swedish fields & meadows splinter pattern?
Yup, or USAF Vietnam era scheme ? Looks like it's great,great,great grand-daddy could have been an F.100 to me ;)
Quote from: RAFF-35 on February 23, 2017, 11:28:07 PM
Being in the midst of the soviet GB, it would only be proper to suggest a sovietised version. Looks wise it's already there, could even have been Sukhoi's rival to the ferret?
Possible. I could build it as a Soviet version.
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 24, 2017, 02:26:59 AM
A weird looking device for sure. :o
Are those the intakes on top of the fuselage either side of the fin?
Yes, those are the intakes.
I could see a revival of the USN/MC Gull Gray over white and full color squadron or CAG markings
What a cool beast! :wacko: Looks like it has Draken ancestry, a couple of generations back.
Quote from: RAFF-35 on February 23, 2017, 11:28:07 PM
Being in the midst of the soviet GB, it would only be proper to suggest a sovietised version. <...>
Being flown to the Arctic, where it will rendez-vous with a USN submarine? :-X
I think I've pretty much settled on a paint scheme for my Cosmo Falcon. I'm going to go with a WWII Flying Tigers paint scheme and markings. Since I really don't do camouflage patterns, the upper fuselage will be olive drab. The lower fuselage will be light or medium grey. I already have a shark's mouth decal for under the fighter nose from the kit decal sheet, but I don't have any other Flying Tiger decals and markings at home. Since I'm going to a contest in a week, I'll see what I can find in the vendor area.
Anybody else have any ideas or suggestions for paint and decal options for a Flying Tigers Cosmo Falcon?
Look for Sky Models' P-40 sheet: LINK! (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/273597-sky-models-48-047-curtiss-p-40-part-i) Usually cheap, plenty of options, printed by Cartograf - doesn't get better than that. :thumbsup:
I have the "Hell's Angels" squadron decals from the Academy kit, if you're interested.
Quote from: ChernayaAkula on February 25, 2017, 06:38:59 PM
Look for Sky Models' P-40 sheet: LINK! (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/273597-sky-models-48-047-curtiss-p-40-part-i) Usually cheap, plenty of options, printed by Cartograf - doesn't get better than that. :thumbsup:
Got that one :thumbsup:
Can thoroughly recommend these Sky sheets. The only problem is cutting the individual transfers out as the sheets are very,very crowded, but excellent value.
Quote from: ChernayaAkula on February 25, 2017, 06:38:59 PM
Look for Sky Models' P-40 sheet: LINK! (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/273597-sky-models-48-047-curtiss-p-40-part-i) Usually cheap, plenty of options, printed by Cartograf - doesn't get better than that. :thumbsup:
Nice, but I need 1/72 scale, not 1/48. Found a new development last night that is giving me a headache. :banghead: The shark mouth decal that comes with the kit is one large piece. And if you look at the pics I posted in my very first post, you'll see the underside of the fighter where the two "prongs" for lack of a better word at the nose of the craft, are supposed to fit on the fighter on top of the decal. The problem is that there are no holes or cutouts in the decal for the locator pins on the prongs to fit through. :banghead: There are holes in the decal for where the gun ports are, so I have to make sure I line up the decal carefully over those.
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Quote from: ChernayaAkula on February 25, 2017, 06:38:59 PM
Look for Sky Models' P-40 sheet: LINK! (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/273597-sky-models-48-047-curtiss-p-40-part-i) Usually cheap, plenty of options, printed by Cartograf - doesn't get better than that. :thumbsup:
Nice, but I need 1/72 scale, not 1/48. <...>
They also do a 1/72 version. :thumbsup:
I thought I'd link to the 1/48 version as this craft here is quite a bit bigger than a 1/72 P-40. Maybe that's something you want to consider. Size of personal markings and how prominent you want them to appear and stuff like that.
Also, please consider giving it a camo scheme. Since it's a Flying Tiger, you could even do a brown-ish basecoat and green tiger stripes. :wacko:
This project will be on temporary hold for awhile as I am now currently getting ready for a model contest coming up this weekend. Sorry, folks.
What a neat looking kit ! I have never seen this before. Hard to say how to finish it, I guess anything goes ! I do like the green one tho.
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I think I give up. :banghead: I can't seem to figure out a decent paint scheme. I originally thought of a retro WWII Flying Tigers paint scheme. But now.......not sure?
I was thinking of the following:
Olive Drab upper fuselage.
Light or Medium Grey lower fuselage.
Red aircraft nose.
And leading edges of wings and so forth to be a Dark Tan or Dark Earth color similar to how the leading edges and other parts are painted red in this pic below. But the more I think about the Dark Tan/Earth color on the leading edges and other areas, the more I think it just looks butt ugly. :banghead: So.........what else could I do? Any other suggestions?
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How about just the OD/Grey/Red scheme and ditch the l/e panels?
Or - change the red to the tail and have it in a Retro-Tuskeegee scheme.
I don't recall whether they ever had painted aircraft or NMF only, but it's your model and you can adjust things to suit yourself. ;)
FWIW
You could go in completely a different direction and take inspiration from Chris Foss.
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Posted my dilemma to a FB group last night and I had one guy who said to try making the wing leading edges and other yellow parts red color the same as the nose. Not sure if I'll go with that scheme either. :(
I like the lay-out of the scheme for this, so perhaps keep the general lay-out & colours but, for than retro look, go with the US OD & light grey scheme; leave the current grey bits (per the image) as is; the tan bit either keep as is or paint matte black, as an anti-glare panel; &, for the brick-red bits on the leading edges, why not pick a squadron or group colour and paint them that (red, yellow, blue, green, whatever).
A few WIP shots. The classic P-40 Flying Tigers scheme that most people are familiar with in books, pictures, movies, etc. is an olive drab green + medium/dark tan upper fuselage, neutral gray lower fuselage, and a red nose.
Well, the upper fuselage of my Cosmo Falcon is olive drab. Lower fuselage is neutral gray. Nose is red. A Flying Tiger aircraft just wouldn't be a Flying Tiger without some sort of dark tan color. So I added a bit in front of the cockpit area behind the red nose. But I'm still not sure if I should take it further by painting the leading edges of the wings and the vertical stabiliser dark tan also? Should I or shouldn't I?
Also made a small base for my CF by printing the Cosmo Falcon emblem, putting that in a simple frame, then maybe have my model either sitting on top with landing gear extended, or have my model on a display stand instead?
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Might depend on how well the doors fit in the closed state... learned that one...
Although, as it's a Japanese kit, I would expect they'd fit pretty well.
Quote from: Rick Lowe on March 22, 2017, 02:37:49 PM
Might depend on how well the doors fit in the closed state... learned that one...
Although, as it's a Japanese kit, I would expect they'd fit pretty well.
Not sure I understand what you mean?
Sometimes the manufacturers don't allow for closing the doors... they fit fine when assembled open, but if you make them closed they fit where they touch and you use a heap of filler.
I'm going to have the landing gear extended and the doors open. Also will have the weapon bays open too. The BANDAI kit does have extra wheel well door panels if a person wants to show the fighter with the wheel wells closed. I won't need any filler at all.
Oh, now that's a nice touch... saves a heap of trouble. :thumbsup:
But moot, as you're having them 'down and dirty'... :lol:
More progress from last night after painting and adding the wings. I guess the Testors Dark Tan color doesn't look too bad? I needed to add tan somewhere on the model and this is the only thing I could come up with.
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It looks great to me. :thumbsup:
Yeah, I agree! :thumbsup:
I can see you have already started it, but I was going to suggest doing it in varying shades metallics? Or even a variation of the Ukrainian splinter schemes. Or NATO Black body, dark gray trim and maybe teal blue leading edges? Bit late now though sorry - I have only just seen this thread today
I have just taken delivery of the Cosmo Zero from the same show and it is a cool looking fighter
Quote from: sykotik on March 24, 2017, 11:13:12 PM
I can see you have already started it, but I was going to suggest doing it in varying shades metallics? Or even a variation of the Ukrainian splinter schemes. Or NATO Black body, dark gray trim and maybe teal blue leading edges? Bit late now though sorry - I have only just seen this thread today
I have just taken delivery of the Cosmo Zero from the same show and it is a cool looking fighter
Doing anything in metallics has never worked out well for me. :banghead: That's why I went with something different and did a retro WWII Flying Tigers scheme. And to be honest, it fits the SBY theme too. After all, the SBY story, series, etc. did start out in the beginning from the Earth Far East Asian area where the Yamato was being built and where most of the characters came from. So I figured why not have a Cosmo Falcon squadron come from that area too and be based off of the old Flying Tigers which also operated out of southeast Asia? :thumbsup:
This model build hasn't gone well for me. :banghead: Already, I have made four mistakes, with one of them majorly with the weapon bay doors being inserted incorrectly and no way to fix it as they are already glued in. And building the 2D engine nozzles was a pain in the :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Whatever good things I may have said about BANDAI kits in the past, I now regret it and take it back........at least for this kit. I will never again buy or build another Cosmo Falcon kit again.
Anyway...........the vast majority of gluing and painting is done. I'm on decaling right now. More pics to possibly come tomorrow maybe.
Quote from: seadude on March 25, 2017, 08:47:34 PM
I will never again buy or build another Cosmo Falcon kit again.
Why not? :unsure:
You know all its faults now, & how to avoid the issues in the future. :thumbsup:
Finished.
I'm not happy with the decals though. :banghead: The clear flat I used to brush over the glossy decals seems to have made them look worse. :banghead: Other than that, I skipped not painting the landing gear white since the pieces were already molded in white plastic. Even though the model is on a stand that is supposed to be used to display a model in flight, I wanted everything open on the underside so people could see the wheel wells as well as the weapon bays.
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Awesome Job :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: She Looks like a Grade AAA Winner,IMHO! Keep up the superb Work :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Dan
Cool. Looks good 'dude.
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That looks really good sir :thumbsup:
Yeah, come out really well. :thumbsup:
I am liking this very much, I could just see one of these in the anti particle weapon metallic scheme I use on my S.H.A.D.O. aircraft. Commander Straker has already been scouring the net to find one to evaluate. At my expense of course :banghead:
chris
Interesting thing about that Flying Tigers motif/theme. It does fit somewhat within the SBY universe. Think about this: The Space Battleship Yamato ship and the majority of crew/characters did come from the Japan/Far East Asian sector of Earth.
The Flying Tigers did operate in the Far East Asian area (China, Burma, etc.) of Earth back in WWII.
Seems like a perfect fit to me. :thumbsup:
Quote from: seadude on March 29, 2017, 08:24:28 AM
Interesting thing about that Flying Tigers motif/theme. It does fit somewhat within the SBY universe. Think about this: The Space Battleship Yamato ship and the majority of crew/characters did come from the Japan/Far East Asian sector of Earth.
The Flying Tigers did operate in the Far East Asian area (China, Burma, etc.) of Earth back in WWII.
Seems like a perfect fit to me. :thumbsup:
And as the New World Order has all the Military as one Big, Happy Family, you'd have former historical foes using unit/battle/personal names without worrying whose side they had been on...
sort of like the Starship Troopers having ships called Yamamoto and Hood, Bull Run and IIRC there was a Dien Bien Phu also.
I do like the very first picture in Post # 33. Kinda looks like a head on shot of a cobra's snake head. At least, to me it does. ;)
That's come out brilliantly! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Great I lOve it. :thumbsup: