Hi everyone
I've often said before in many other threads of people who have already done and do this sort of thing, that I've always admired said people who can scratch build these amazing subjects. And for a long time, I have been thinking about having a crack at one. I have an online friend who for years has been pushing me to do one, but it wasn't fear or doubt that was stopping me - it was lack of a cool enough subject that I liked and really wanted to do.
However, I have finally now decided on a subject. Drawing on various art works and other sci-fi builds I've seen in my quest for inspiration and design ideas, I've settled on a Deep Space Passenger cruiser. I might do something military another time, but for now, I'm going with civilian, so no weapons.
I'm still coming up with a solid design plan for the rear and middle of the ship but what ever I think of now will no doubt change as the build progresses. But for now, I do have a vague notion of direction. I'm always up for constructive criticism and suggestions, so feel free.
Starting with the main body of the ship, I'll use a 1/144 Revell U-Boat as the basis. I love the sleek lines of the U-Boat and have long thought it would make a great basis for a very cool spaceship.
I was looking through my parts boxes for something to add and found an old superstructure from some WW2 1/700 battleship and thought this was could be about the right style piece I was looking for. Since then, I have bought a modern day 1/700 US ship and I'll use that one instead - with modifications of course. Then I'm thinking about a bridge and found this marvelous look little piece that when flipped over looks just like a spaceship control deck could look like. It's sleek-ish in design and would work well with the overall shape.
Then I'm thinking about engines and what type to go for. SBY style single exhaust or Star Wars 2 tubed style side by sides? Or how about externally, like Star Trek but not make it look too obviously like ST? Event Horizon kind of wing? Nozzles were an easier choice to make: I'll just use resin copies of the nozzles that I did up for the Venator but have them sitting inside another tube, so the insides would be white lights and around the outside blue lighting.
Interior lighting would be aqua blue in color and framed using some radiator panel PE (again, like the bridge of the Venator windows)
Up front and down below, have a forward facing multi level hangar bay and with another 2 hangar bays on the side wards facing walls.
So, here are some of the core items I'll be using. Lots of cutting and sanding to do
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I foresee a LOT of cutting going forward and possible total public humiliation if this goes to pot :) lol Not like that's never happened before....
Well, let the fun begin!
Thanks for looking and I'm interested to hear your opinions
Si
I like the big chunky engine idea (either vertical or horizontal arrangement). :thumbsup:
What's the final 2 pic's? :unsure:
I'm thinking they'd look better up front, possibly on forward swept "wings". You could call them "field generators", or similar - perhaps creating a field ahead of the ship to protect it from dust, micro-meteors, etc., & even for steering the ship.
Cool idea, the submarine hull shape reminds me of a Zentraedi ship? I have seen a similar build before, where a german submarine was mated with "wings" from a Klingon Bird of Prey. Did not look out of place...
Looking forward to see what becomes of this. Spaceships are fun. Messy, IMHO, but fun. ;)
Quote from: Old Wombat on August 10, 2016, 10:01:59 PM
I like the big chunky engine idea (either vertical or horizontal arrangement). :thumbsup:
What's the final 2 pic's? :unsure:
I'm thinking they'd look better up front, possibly on forward swept "wings". You could call them "field generators", or similar - perhaps creating a field ahead of the ship to protect it from dust, micro-meteors, etc., & even for steering the ship.
That's actually not such a bad idea of having them up front. I didn't think of that. I will see how I like it. Thank you!
"What's the final 2 pic's? :unsure: " - I'm not sure what you mean sorry bud. Are you referring to the quality of the photo or the arrangement of the smaller subs? Or something else altogether?
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on August 10, 2016, 11:57:55 PM
Cool idea, the submarine hull shape reminds me of a Zentraedi ship? I have seen a similar build before, where a german submarine was mated with "wings" from a Klingon Bird of Prey. Did not look out of place...
Looking forward to see what becomes of this. Spaceships are fun. Messy, IMHO, but fun. ;)
I've never heard of Zentraedi ship before. I will have to Google them shortly to see what they are
I'm still deciding on the engine arrangement. I'm wondering if 4 of those little subs are put together in an X formation would be the way to go. Kinda in the spirit of the Roger Young but more stream lined looking
The arrangement of the smaller sub's.
Looks a bit too Star Trek for comfort like that.
yeah I get you. I too want to steer away from ST, which is why I thought having 4 of them might make the way to go.
I'm also entertaining the thought of having them closer to the body
This will be an interesting build especially as it's for a civilian space ship :thumbsup:
Old Wombat gave me the idea about putting these little subs up front and I have come up with some more configurations. I'll have to buy some more of those little subs if I go with one of them. I especially really like the last one myself
Sorry for the first 2 blurry pictures. Very shameful
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I think I will develop the last one - that's my favorite yet. I'll use a smaller 1/72 F-14 as the 48th is just to large.
Much more individual! Much better! :thumbsup:
Very Cool! if You're looking for Ships from Robotech,PM me and I'll give You the Address of a Site that May Help. This Ship is Starting to Look Super Cool & Kinda like something the Battlestar Galactica Original Series! Keep up the Superb Work :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Dan
I liked the earlier look better. You started out with a 144th sub for the 'sleek' look, and now that's almost totally obscured. What kits are the 2 smaller subs ?
they are the ICM 1/72 ... schwindhund.... or something like that (I honestly can't remember the exact name but Revell have re-boxed the exact same kit.
I dunno, I kind of thought the way it looks now is kinda sleek. The 4 rear swept wings idea does do it for me. It's certainly detracted my original plan, but in a good way.
I would need to work in the obvious kit parts into something more stream lined and not so boxy
However, I'm wondering if it would need rearward facing engine tubes if it has these winged ones.
By eliminating the F-14 stuff, yeah, I could make it thinner, but at the same time, I quite like that fat end. I also think that the F-14 shell and intakes gives the mid and rear end some extra substance and body. I like a bit of chunk in my space ships.
I would also be making my own wings. The ones there are just for conceptual purposes ;D
I'm thinking a Battleship Yamato style comms mast might look quite cool to
The fourth configuration (aren't the fourth and fifth images of the same?) looks the best, but by all means, keep the 1/48 Tomcat fuselage. The fat rear end somehow supplements the outlying engine pods and the sleek upper superstructure, making this more "balanced" and for me, feels more "leisurely" suitable for a passenger liner. Configurations #1 and #2 feel so "aggressive" that they could be warships and the flat rear wings on #3 don't feel "right" - having roughly the same anhedral and the pods roughly at the same distance from the fuselage as in in #4 is better in its symmetry.
There's some nice ideas there :thumbsup:
Looks like a really aggressive hydrofoil in some of the shots. Up turned U-Boat hull looks very purposefull
Who'd ever think of combining an F-14 and a submarine in one model!? :o
Oh for sure, build it the way you see it ! It still looks really cool to me. I'd leave in the F-14 parts as well, they look awesome in there. I had a chance to buy some wee subs on sale awhile ago and am still kicking myself for not grabbing them. I mentioned in another thread as well, that some K-cups have little discs in them that are perfect for shields and radars and exhaust ports etc.
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You have a great start on a build which will be very interesting to see come together.
Looking awesome!
Just an idea that wandered into my dusty mind...
How about instead of using the mini subs as engines use them as shuttle craft or life boats?
Quote from: kerick on August 13, 2016, 05:20:05 PM
Just an idea that wandered into my dusty mind...
How about instead of using the mini subs as engines use them as shuttle craft or life boats?
I'm going to have them as an FTL drive system but thanks for the suggestion though and it's a good reminder for me to factor in some kind of life boats or escape capsules
I think this is going totally in the right direction, follow your heart and if you feel its not quite right super detail it around the engine areas with piping or small kit parts and the paint scheme you choose will also make it work big time ,it looks like the sort of ship that would look good with two or 3 tone panel scheme , one color with different panels a shade lighter and darker , creative license is yours and you can plan what part of the ship is this or that but in the end make it look cool, good work! <_< <_< <_< <_< <_< <_<
Each of those layouts has its own charm.
But all in all, really like the idea the way it is developing.
Once this has paint and the now obligatory Lighting masterwork, pretty sure this will look a treat :thumbsup:
Thanks Brian :) Yeah, I'm looking forward to the lighting. Hey - where did you get your chaser unit from for your Airship? I might have to go buy one
Quote from: usn sentinel on August 14, 2016, 06:52:24 PM
I think this is going totally in the right direction, follow your heart and if you feel its not quite right super detail it around the engine areas with piping or small kit parts and the paint scheme you choose will also make it work big time ,it looks like the sort of ship that would look good with two or 3 tone panel scheme , one color with different panels a shade lighter and darker , creative license is yours and you can plan what part of the ship is this or that but in the end make it look cool, good work! <_< <_< <_< <_< <_< <_<
Thanks bud. I'm thinking the same with the colours - very light grey as the primary colour with darker shades for panels, but I'm also thinking of metallic blue stripes as well to offset the monotony of grey.
My main issue at the moment is because I am trying to stay away from mainstream concepts like ST etc, how should I shape the rear end so it doesn't look like a sub and more like an FTL drive. Currently, those subs look OK in their own effective way in the positions they're in but they still look like the backside of a sub. In essence - I have no idea on what an FTL drive rear end should look like. Anyways, I shall ponder it some more and I will come up with something when the time comes :)
Quote from: sykotik on August 19, 2016, 03:44:58 AM
Thanks Brian :) Yeah, I'm looking forward to the lighting. Hey - where did you get your chaser unit from for your Airship? I might have to go buy one
Quote from: usn sentinel on August 14, 2016, 06:52:24 PM
I think this is going totally in the right direction, follow your heart and if you feel its not quite right super detail it around the engine areas with piping or small kit parts and the paint scheme you choose will also make it work big time ,it looks like the sort of ship that would look good with two or 3 tone panel scheme , one color with different panels a shade lighter and darker , creative license is yours and you can plan what part of the ship is this or that but in the end make it look cool, good work! <_< <_< <_< <_< <_< <_<
Thanks bud. I'm thinking the same with the colours - very light grey as the primary colour with darker shades for panels, but I'm also thinking of metallic blue stripes as well to offset the monotony of grey.
My main issue at the moment is because I am trying to stay away from mainstream concepts like ST etc, how should I shape the rear end so it doesn't look like a sub and more like an FTL drive. Currently, those subs look OK in their own effective way in the positions they're in but they still look like the backside of a sub. In essence - I have no idea on what an FTL drive rear end should look like. Anyways, I shall ponder it some more and I will come up with something when the time comes :)
Dont kill me for referring to Anderson but maybe way off base here but a series of tube like detail surrounding the rear center aft could look like extra fuel tanks and could fatten the rear and hide the point bit, see below ,the front and side extensions already have a pointy look. also some sort of extra supports to the winged parts so they don't look like st warp nacels might work , actually have you thought of giving it an even bigger scale by making those small subs on the wings more passenger areas with rows of tiny rectangular windows like an ocean cruise ship, higher priced cabins because of less noise from being away from the engines and a better view of the stars , {busness class ;D, } engines could be rear center in a bigger circle behind the tubes , big ship big engines at rear , the colour you suggest could be stunning. Just ideas as i love this model so far :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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could use these or any better shape pens or tubing and maybe glue piping in them as if fuel is being piped along and into the hull
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I'll add my 2 cents but just for you to bounce off.
I like the above lay-out best but I'd flip the mini-subs stern-forwards & lay them on their sides, keel inwards; remove the conning towers; greeble them up a bit with styrene strip & rod, maybe some lead or copper wire if you have it; put a couple of short rods poking out of each & at the end of each rod put a piece of Aber mesh (or some slat-armour if you have any spare lying around) in a narrow frame; from the forward ends (the sub's sterns) I'd put some lengths of rod of various shapes & diameter. The mini-subs are now your "field generators", converting energy from the engines into a protective EM field (remember this is Sci Fi, not Real Sci) around the vessel to allow it to travel unharmed in sub-, trans- & super-photic (FTL) speeds. They can also be a "massless" drive, with the EM field also acting as a propulsion system (at least at trans- & super-light speeds, the reaction engines can be your sub-light drives).
The reason I suggested forward swept "wings" was to project them further forward, possibly ahead of the actual hull.
The stern of the big sub is cool as it is. To hide its origins a little I'd raise the F-14 section in line with the point of the stern (bringing the thrust-line of the engines more in line with the axis of mass); (Is that hole at the stern a torpedo tube?) whatever it is, I'd keep it as is, it looks good; the keel-fin above it could be left as is or extended vertically (possibly bifurcated) & decorated in a similar manner to the "front" of the "field generators"; blend everything with curved joins.
My rule of thumb for Sci Fi is that the physics of the narrative doesn't have to be consistent with "real" physics but it must be consistent within itself. As long as you have a mental feel for the physics of this ship's universe, & you apply it to the decisions you make, the design will work, no matter what you do with it.
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thanks for you're input guys - I like some of the suggestions there
I do intend on adding some raised sections like those in the pictures. Most likely, I'll use missile halves for that
The F14 body will be sunk into the shape of the main sub so it flows more evenly, although I am still trying to work out how to tie the 2 halves in ie, the ship will be broken down into 2 parts - top and bottom - nice and sleek up top and chunky and mechanical down below in engineering, maintenance and service hangar bays. I will have a passenger hangar bay at the rear of the ship
I actually like the EM field idea and I might just use that on the next ship I do, but for the meantime, I am going to stick to plan and go with FTL drive.
The forward swept idea has merit and I will have a tinker with the arrangement to see if I like it. I think from memory, I tried it out earlier but it felt a little too 1950's - however, I could also not be remembering it right. Again, I'll need to do another mock up
I made a start on it last night and got the pieces together for the bridge and superstructure. I am really liking the way I am going to have it and am now in the process of removing all of the nice raised detail so I can add my own.
I'll post some pictures once I have uploaded them
thanks again and please do keep throwing ideas at me.
Well, I have finally made a start on this, beginning with the superstructure. This is just the general shapes, so detailing etc is still to come. I've chopped away a fair bit and am currently filing off the nice raised details but to be replaced with my own. I'll also be adding some eves and so on and I'll lengthen the front part and make it more swept back
The ring thing at the rear will be recast in clear and I'm going to make it into an observation deck. I am still working out where I'll put it. On the top of the large deck or behind? I'm thinking maybe on the top and trim down that large deck area (well, I'll be doing that anyway)
There are 2 pictures of the intended bridge - one upside down and the other not, although which is which remains to be seen.
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I am entertaining the use of the larger deck there as a landing pad for VIP transport shuttles but that would mean I would have to open the rear section and make a small hangar bay. It's do-able, but seeing as I intend to have much larger hangar bays in the aft of the main body and also down below up front, it maybe seen as unnecessary and a bit of over kill
Anyways, more later
Si
I would suggest not getting too complicated if possible. I still have a similar project on hold because I kept making it "bigger and better". Lost my mojo for it after getting frustrated with it. I'll finish it one of these days.
Nice! <_<
I like your superstructure ! Keep it up!
hi everyone
Well, it has been a while since I updated this and I have actually made a start on it. I had the camera out today taking shots of something else so I thought I would snap off a few shots of where I am up to on this one
The only thing really actually glued is the nose section and the superstructure. I have only just started the superstructure but it's coming along nicely so far. Still a long way to go on it though...
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here's a small list of things I have started:
A front antenna array which sits below the nose but I forgot to take pictures of that.
I have also begun making a hangar bay which will sit inside the rear part of the ship and am deciding on what to do with the open space at the rear of the superstructure. I am thinking maybe some raked fins like the Yamato could be the way to go? Open to suggestions... I have scrapped the use of the F-14 body as I was finding it too hard to integrate with the sub body and have come up with something a bit more stream lined. I am still intending on using those mini-subs as 'conventional' thrust style engines which I shall use the resin nozzles on
Anyway, that's it for now, but I shall update again once i have something worth taking pictures of
Thanks for looking
Till then
Si
The gap at the back could become an arboretum - trees under a "glass" roof. Think Silent Running.
That is not a bad idea. I shall consider it more. Currently, I have machinery in mind, but that might be in line with it being a civilian passenger liner (not nice and clean)
Maybe I'm over thinking it
Anyways, progress is slowly happening. I have finally got the lighting installed into the main superstructure and I will start on the body lighting soon
Most of the detailing has gone on but there is still more to add, which I will do once it is secured onto the body.
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That space at the back there will be a private/leisure craft hangar bay...eventually
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This part is the start of the forward sensor array which will sit on the chin of the ship. Below that will be a larger hangar bay for supply ships and larger craft
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I am still playing with the F-14 body idea and have reshaped things slightly but still not entirely convinced. I like the idea of the flared out body but it seems a bit chunky at present.
I may just stick with my original plan of building the shape from scratch. I'll play around with it some more before committing either way
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Well, that's it for now. I will update again soon
Thanks for looking
Si
I know you are not to this point yet but I recommend for the hanger bay behind the superstructure some nice decal stripes leading up to the bay and some approach lights like a runway would have.
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Probably not that many lights.
Just my $0.02 worth.
I love how this is progressing.
I really like that idea Kerick - so I may just implement that. I was already having ground lights in the hangar bay so they will work nicely with a chaser unit lit guide path. Just need to find a unit first but that shouldn't be too hard to locate
That nice long deck aft of the hanger bay made me think of that. Should work out well.
The forward facing bay is another matter.
Could use the Optical Landing System from aircraft carriers.
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"Call the ball Mav!"
I was working on something like your project a few years ago and was going to do this but its on the shelf of shame these days. I got too complicated and burned out on it.
I hadn't actually thought anything about the front bay yet other than floor lighting. It'll be considerably bigger than the rear one - that's for sure.
Project the runway pattern out the front using a hologram.
That might be a bit much. My enthusiasm exceeds reality.
WOW- has it really been over a month since I last updated this? My, how time flies - especially when your flat out busy...
I have been very slowly and casually chugging away at this. I have almost finished the rear hangar bay and am about to make a start on the front one. I just need to add a roof to the smaller bay and add some lighting to it and it's ready to install.
Here are a couple of pics to tide you over until I have something really worth while to show you
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Sorry that's all I have for now but I am a very slow worker - despite everyone telling me otherwise
I will get the Fibers all connected up and take some more photos so you can see how it's meant to look
Si
If that microscopic brilliance isn't something pic-worthy, I have no clue as to what is!
Fantastic job, there! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Superb :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:.......love the use of the fibres for lights and the meshing of components.....dont be afraid to go away from plastic kit parts...doing a Rowland Emett with something you would not connect with modelling is fun...for my trains I have used pins, bits of tea strainers, odd brass trinkets from charity shops, bottle tops etc.....love it :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mxD0DW4O0ZA
http://gardenrails.myfreeforum.org/The_Iron_Road_ironing_board_layout_about10453.html
Any progress on this marvel? It has such potential!
none sorry - I have had to put it away for a while to concentrate on other projects. I will be coming back to it later on though. It is not officially dead :)
I'm looking forward to seeing more of this awesome build! :wub:
Quote from: sykotik on March 24, 2017, 11:08:25 PM
none sorry - I have had to put it away for a while to concentrate on other projects. I will be coming back to it later on though. It is not officially dead :)
good, this was looking fantastic
Hi everyone
Who here remembers this one? Yup, it was an idea on how to use some parts I had which has had now become an active project, I am bored building kits and feel that now is the time to move into scratch building. So, 2 nights ago in a spurge of inspiration, I started cutting and gluing stuff together. I have also slightly modifed the final design. I'm going to try and keep the shape you see below. It looks fast and aggressive but I agree, not terribly civil, but I am in love with the natural curves of the F14 body and the UBoat hull. They compliment each other beautifully. I'm now thinking a rich person's personal space yacht.
Also, I have not discarded Guy's idea of a pair of forward facing mini-subs as projectors. It may help in balancing out the triangular shape it has ATM. I'll use the 3rd pic of that layout as a public poll (of sorts)
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I have the sub on the right in the wrong position - the little fins should be facing forward and there is still a whole section missing yet at the rear but this is just the rough shape.
Part of the problem I was having at the start initially and was was stopping me from starting was having a solid central hull piece to base the ship from. This was solved 7 days ago when I watched a guy build a huge starship from Nerf guns. It gave me an idea - the right one too :thumbsup: . As it happens, we just so have some of those guns lying around here and I spied a sight from one of the guns he was about to throw out. I grabbed it and started messing around with it. Then I saw a Trumpeter 1/72 M113 on super sale at BNA which just so happened to be the answer to another block I had. It was now my new front docking bay! In a twist of fate, that old hangar bay I had built for the rear space was perfect. I don't even have to make it - it's already done! The wall panels were the exact perfect size for the ATV.
The 32 SU-27 intake has become the under body where the electrics can be held- so nice and convenient.
The U-Boat has a good hold, although I think it will be tricky to get the halves to meet squarely and this is where you will see a novice at work.
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I do want to repaint in docking bay, so I will mask off the fibers and repaint it all. It does look a bit rough but don't forget, this is just the start and my ideas that I've had over the time are now finally getting to come out.
Yeah, I will get back to the Start Destroyer but this came first and now that I'm on a roll, I will keep going till its done or I've had enough. Or, more likely, it'll just fail catastrophically :D
I am more than happy to take constructive feedback. Happy for you to say something doesn't look right or what have you - just don't be an arse about it (although I doubt very much that anyone here would)
As always, thanks for stopping by and would love to hear your thoughts on this one
Si
When on a roll it's always best to take advantage and go with it :thumbsup:
Cool. :thumbsup: But there's still a lot of aircraft ancestry visible?
Great to see this on the move again! :thumbsup:
[PS: Yes, I had completely forgotten about it over the last 5 years but, having re-read the thread, I'm very excited to see where you take this! ;D ]
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on January 01, 2023, 03:56:35 AMCool. :thumbsup: But there's still a lot of aircraft ancestry visible?
you're quite right - it does ATM, but hopefully that'll change soon enough :thumbsup:
Quote from: Madhatter on December 31, 2022, 09:32:24 PMHi everyone
Who here remembers this one? Yup, it was an idea on how to use some parts I had which has had now become an active project, I am bored building kits and feel that now is the time to move into scratch building. So, 2 nights ago in a spurge of inspiration, I started cutting and gluing stuff together.
Yeah, I will get back to the Start Destroyer but this came first and now that I'm on a roll, I will keep going till its done or I've had enough. Or, more likely, it'll just fail catastrophically
I am more than happy to take constructive feedback. Happy for you to say something doesn't look right or what have you - just don't be an arse about it (although I doubt very much that anyone here would)
As always, thanks for stopping by and would love to hear your thoughts on this one
Si
A few thoughts, as invited:-
1) I'm delighted that you've had another spark of inspiration...........that's what drives whiffery for all of us.
2)Don't abandon the star destroyer (I'm enjoying watching its progress) but DO let it temporarily lapse if you feel that your creative flair is taking you elsewhere
3)I don't think that your prediction of "fail catastrophically" is likely to be realised. (Outstanding triumph is much more likely)
4) Who am I to say whether it looks right or wrong? It's YOUR imagination that matters here
5) I totally agree with you that even those here with different opinions to yours are unlikely "to be an arse about it". That's why I enjoy this site so much.
Having said a lot more than my allotted two penn'orth, I'll wish you and yours a Happy New Year and get out of peoples' way.
That docking bay is great! I can't wait to see more of this build.
If the muse is upon you then go with it!
Things are slowly starting to take more shape. I still have to do the bottom yet but I am almost there. Still lots of puttying and blending to go yet
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I am really contemplating going with this configuration:
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I'd need to blend in that hull that's on this side but I like the shape of it. If I do, I'd have to buy another one of those ships and I'm not sure there is another one there
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These are the main engines I was thinking of using but I don't think I'll need the whole tube - just the ends. The brass is just sitting in the middle and have not been centered. I'll add supports to them when I get to there.
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It certainly seems to be taking on a retro Gerry Anderson era kind of shape. Certainly not by design but it seems to be naturally flowing there. I like it myself
Anywho, that's it for now, but happy to hear your thoughts you may have if you want to leave them
As always, thanks for looking
Si
:thumbsup: :mellow: :mellow: :mellow: :wub: :thumbsup:
That's looking more and more amazing! :thumbsup:
Bigger than I imagined but looking excellent! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Coming along nicely! :thumbsup:
Amazing job! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I envy your imagination....wish I had a little more of that. :wub:
Cheers!
David aka 63cpe
thank you guys. :thumbsup:
For a first time, its coming along as I envisioned, although not without errors. The joys of learning to scratch build :rolleyes:
Wrong final emoji, it should be ;D
Just think of it as micro-detailing writ LARGE. ;)
LOL, I guess you're right. I'll add smaller deails after I get the base shape the way I want it (well, duhhhh ;D ) I'll have to be restrained though, which will be my biggest challenge
Looking forward to seeing more of this baby! :thumbsup:
That is very interesting. Please continue :thumbsup:
Thanks guys :thumbsup: Im away on a much needed holiday but will be returning to this soon. My mojo has been restored and I am ready to continue this one. All being well, I'll have an update in a week or so :thumbsup:
Woo-hoo! :thumbsup: