Still alive (but seldom busy with modelbuilding*)!
Some days before, I was stumbling over some steampunk and dieselpunk pictures in the internet.
So I got inspiration to start a very new project.
This was the picture, ripping me out of my lethargy:
(https://abload.de/img/a1017jps3d.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=a1017jps3d.jpg)
And this, I have found in my model-stock:
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0021oasp9.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0021oasp9.jpg)
Here some pics of the actual progress:
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0022qrshm.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0022qrshm.jpg)
The model was already assembled, so I devorced chassis and body as the first step.
Then, I extend the chassis and the body to get enough room for a second front axle.
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0024amsn7.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0024amsn7.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_00259gs2j.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_00259gs2j.jpg)
Some wheels of a 1/72 Ju 88 landing gear becoming the wheels for the rear axle.
To open the baggage-hood was a real sweaty job.
The new hood was part of the hull of a 1/87 air-transport light tank "Wiesel" of the german Bundeswehr.
And the baggage compartement also needs an extension (by plastic-sheet).
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0026agsbm.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0026agsbm.jpg)
Now, after using some putty, the 6-wheeler Dieselpunk-11 CV is close to get it's primer.
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0027rusen.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0027rusen.jpg)
Will be continued.
Norbert
(*If you want to know why, just ask.)
Looks promising, and wonderfully weird. ;D
Wonderfully weird and creative! I just can't help thinking of dual wheels on the rear axle. Just my $0.02.
Quote from: kerick on May 30, 2016, 12:20:37 PM
Wonderfully weird and creative! I just can't help thinking of dual wheels on the rear axle. Just my $0.02.
But it's front wheel drive...............
Thanks a lot PR19_Kit and kerick for the fast and more than friendly replies!
Kerick, do you mean twin tires for each side of the rear axle? I suppose, the 2 CV at the computer-made graphic has it. But this would be a problem for me, because I would be forced to scratch-build twin tires and much more curvy rearside fenders for each side.
And, remember PR19_Kit's note: the car is front whell driven. So, there is no need for twin tires.
But: just a year or 1.5 ago, I'd built a steampunk car with a double axle at the rear ..., didn't have I shown it here?
Here's the result (as an appetizer):
(https://abload.de/img/image0046rdmk.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=image0046rdmk.jpg)
(You like to have a making-of-thread?)
Norbert
Wonderful, I LOVE the crank-driven rear wheels! :thumbsup: :drink:
And it makes a low chassis Invicta look tall too! :o
Quote from: kerick on May 30, 2016, 12:20:37 PM
Wonderfully weird and creative! I just can't help thinking of dual wheels on the rear axle. Just my $0.02.
Tell Tyrrell that!
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/TyrrellP34ScheckterDepaillerExhSinsheim.JPG/1280px-TyrrellP34ScheckterDepaillerExhSinsheim.JPG)
By Siegfried Wessler - Own work, CC BY-SA 2.5, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=979951
Ok, one fat tire instead of two skinny ones!
Quote from: MaxHeadroom on May 30, 2016, 01:43:04 PM
Kerick, do you mean twin tires for each side of the rear axle? I suppose, the 2 CV at the computer-made graphic has it. But this would be a problem for me, because I would be forced to scratch-build twin tires and much more curvy rearside fenders for each side.
And, remember PR19_Kit's note: the car is front wheel driven. So, there is no need for twin tires.
Norbert
Oh don't worry. I was just tossing out an idea I had. I realize its late in the build for you to start changing things. May be next time around.
I remember your steam powered car. Excellent build!
Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 30, 2016, 03:32:23 PM
And it makes a low chassis Invicta look tall too! :o
;D ;D ;D :thumbsup: Indeed. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Old Wombat on May 30, 2016, 05:28:01 PM
Quote from: kerick on May 30, 2016, 12:20:37 PM
Wonderfully weird and creative! I just can't help thinking of dual wheels on the rear axle. Just my $0.02.
Tell Tyrrell that!
But in Tyrell's case they didn't have to drive the dual wheels as well. March and Williams did, but then theirs didn't have to steer too.
I think Max's idea is unique (but I have no doubt that someone will be searching the net to prove me wrong........ )
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg922%2F5828%2FL3oQtg.jpg&hash=7e831b5fb5d6833c200b8f7266e8a4ff46fc1d0f)
March 2-4-0 F1 car (pic by David Merrett)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg923%2F6816%2F9Fzd4s.jpg&hash=d7f52c4ca7d65a4a14ab3e44c956526ff1ba953d)
Williams FW08B F1 car (pic from Ultimatecars site)
Thanks a lot, dear friends, for the Formula 1 6-wheelers; the Tyrell, I remember!
To PR19_Kit: The basic kit for the steam- and crankdriven "lowrider" was no Invicta, it was just a 1/32 Aston Martin Ulster (but I don't find the thread, I was introducing the making of to you).
To kerick: When I will have finished the Citroën you can see better, the rear wheels having a fatter shape than the front wheels. That's because of their origin: The Ju 88 had have baloon-tires. I agree: It looks better.
Norbert
I have visions of a French Dastardly and Muttley ;D
You're right, NARSES2; I'm also thinking of such crazy movies like "The great Race" (Professor Fate/Jack Lemmon) and of "Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines (or How I Flew from London to Paris in 25 Hours 11 Minutes)". ;)
In my opinion, it's always worth to follow some nutty ideas and try to realize, because there is much fun in - except you like to live a boring life.
Norbert
After applying the primer, I was shocked about the quality and quantity of all the scratches and irregularities after the extension of the Citroën's body! :o
O.k., putty must help:
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_002830sef.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_002830sef.jpg)
Together with some files, a self constructed slicer (made of a dentist's tool) and sandpaper, I started to try to make the body as smooth as a baby's butt.
And I think, I succeed:
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0030nisz0.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0030nisz0.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0031r9srr.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0031r9srr.jpg)
I think, it's important to have a contrast between the colour of the model's plastic and the colour of the primer. And for the future, I think, I will buy some putty in an also contrasting colour to the primer AND the plastic's colour. So I will see all the problems in a much better way, and the result of the tryings to remove them.
More to come ...!
I've been using a putty called Perfect Plastic Putty. Its white and works nicely.
https://www.deluxematerials.co.uk/en/
Numerous products for modelers.
Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 31, 2016, 02:16:53 AM
But in Tyrell's case they didn't have to drive the dual wheels as well. March and Williams did, but then theirs didn't have to steer too.
I think Max's idea is unique (but I have no doubt that someone will be searching the net to prove me wrong........ )
If he was goin' steam instead of dieselpunk, it'd be an 0-4-2. ;)
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on May 31, 2016, 09:26:14 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on May 31, 2016, 02:16:53 AM
But in Tyrell's case they didn't have to drive the dual wheels as well. March and Williams did, but then theirs didn't have to steer too.
I think Max's idea is unique (but I have no doubt that someone will be searching the net to prove me wrong........ )
If he was goin' steam instead of dieselpunk, it'd be an 0-4-2. ;)
Hmm, in UK diesel loco terminology it'd be a 0-Bo-1, but I expect the SNCF use a totally different system. ;D
Thanks for the try, pals!
The different wheel notation systems are really confusing.
Why aren't we use the simple car system?
So the Citroën is a 4 x 6 (6 wheels in total, but the 4 at the front are driven).
An original 11 CV is 2 x 4.
The Aston Martin Steamer is a 6 x 4 (6 in total, the rear 4 are driven).
An original Aston Martin Ulster is 4 x 2.
That's much more simple, I think. ;)
Norbert
Now, after extending, filling, grinding, priming, filling and again grinding, the body was ready for painting.
I'd chosen glossy black out of a spray can.
This was the result:
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_00327ruuy.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_00327ruuy.jpg)
Ooops, no gloss!
Never mind.
After applying the accessoirs (exhausting pipes, chromium, etc.) I will paint it all over with glossy clearcoat.
Norbert
Seems like something about from "The Extraordinary League Of Gentleman" :cheers:
Yes, MiB, Captain Nemo's 6-wheeler, white and with some art nouveau applications.
But my Citroën is later in the timeline. Therefore, I think over to apply some art déco decorations, but I'm not an artist.
Norbert
Yesterday I spend some time with a caliper, wire, aluminiumfoil, a nose pliers, a cutting pliers, a file, superglue, plastic glue, wood glue (for the headlight glasses) and a looot of patience:
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0034p3qbq.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0034p3qbq.jpg)
Yes, the Citroën is powered by a Diesel 12-cyl. straight engine ... ;)
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0033m9o92.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0033m9o92.jpg)
(O! I forgot to mount the rear bumper - sorry.)
Will be continued.
Norbert
Looking very good!! :thumbsup:
I assume, you like some details?
The exhausing pipes are made of 1.2 mm wire.
The door's and baggage compartment's handles are made of 0.6 mm wire.
The fresh air flap, the Citroën-chevrons and the middleline on the cooler mask are made of aluminiumfoil.
The water-cap on the cooler mask was a 1/32 gasoline-cap of an Aston Martin Ulster.
The diesel-cap on the rear side beside the baggage compartement is made of an ordinary needle.
Two of the 5 headlights are original, I just added 3 more for a more impressive "face".
The other 0.6 mm wire applications on the hood are only for decoration.
Let's see, what my imagination will let follow.
Norbert
Good one.
:thumbsup:
yes ! :thumbsup:
Excellent. The exhaust pipes are a bit too much for my personal taste, but I love the idea and the execution. :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Now that looks cool ! Love the exhaust...great stuff !
:cheers:
Thank you all for your more than friendly comments! Thanks a lot!
To Dizzyfugu: you're right because of the exhausting pipes.
I'd prefered a solution like at a Mercedes SSK or an Excalibur, sampled into sidepipes, but my skills are too weak to realize this version. And -most important- I can't apply chrome.
So I was forced to choose the second best solution: single pipes for each cylinder, mounting them up in the air with some degrees to the rear to show a certain dynamic.
It wasn't really easy to bend all 12 pipe-wires into the correct and same angle and to glue them in (nearly) perfect rows.
Norbert
It looks amazing Norbert. :thumbsup: :bow:
I hate to THINK how loud it would be, with twelve short(-ish) stub exhausts from a diesel........ :o
Can't say I'm a fan of the pipes, either, but my biggest concern is the layout of the pipes for an in-line 12-cylinder, to me that configuration says V-12. :blink:
However, the overall build & concept are A1-Awesome! :thumbsup:
PR19_Kit: Yes, the sound must be amazing! (But, do you know the biker's word "Loud pipes saves lives."? :bow: ) And also imagine the exhaust-clouds, especially by shifting down. :blink:
Old Wombat: You really know, I respect all opinions, so I'm not disappointed about you don't like the pipes. As I said some posts before, it was the second best solution for my imagination and skills.
But, related to the supposed V-12 configuration:
1- the lenght of the hood/engine compartment gives a lot of space - more than enough for a long 12 cyl. straight engine. So, in my imagination, there is a straight-12!
2- the distance between the pipes shows, there is no short V-12, there is a long straight 12 cyl. So, in my imagination, there is a straight-12.
3- The intake of the first cylinder is on the right side and the outtake is on the left side, the intake of the second cylinder is on the left and the outtake on the right, the intake of the third cylinder is on the right and the outtake is on the left and so on alternating. So, in my imagination, there is a straight-12. :cheers:
Norbert
An alternate cross-flow straight 12 diesel. Gives nicely balanced firing strokes, but I'm not so sure about the secondary vibrations or the torsional ones either...........
Yet another automotive break-through first seen here. :thumbsup: :bow: ;D
Next up, the Citroen type H van with a Napier Deltic engine driving two or three rear axles. Travels remarkably rapidly (in a straight line) and deafens everyone within 250 yards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_H_Van (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_H_Van)
Quote from: Rheged on June 07, 2016, 01:31:55 PM
Next up, the Citroen type H van with a Napier Deltic engine driving two or three rear axles. Travels remarkably rapidly (in a straight line) and deafens everyone within 250 yards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_H_Van (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_H_Van)
They do that anyway, WITHOUT the Deltic! :o
LOL
(Wouldn't be a Napier Deltic a bit oversized and much too heavy for a Citroën Type H? :-\ ;) )
Now, after a (more or less) short break:
The body
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0035zwue0.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0035zwue0.jpg)
now glossy, as it was intended.
And:
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0036gouvg.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0036gouvg.jpg)
(Masking tape on the windows for "mounting" the chromium frames.)
Next step will be inserting the windows with again using masking tape for the inner side of the windows for painting the interior/inner side of the body/passenger's cabin in a brighter colour. Let's say white or cream or grey over all.
Only a a self made gear lever will be added to the dashboard, because more interior details aren't neccessary because of the tiny scale and bad view through the Citroën's windows.
The windscreen will be glued in in a slighty opened position, just like it was possible at a lot of pre-war vehicles. (I love this detail!)
I won't remove the edgings of the rear and the sidewindows, because I fear to blind them and damage the body's varnishing by too much glue.
Yes, I'm sorry, but economical glueing is not my best skill. :banghead: (I have to practice.)
I beg for pardon in advance, because it looks, like I will need some time/days to fulfill my announcement.
Yours sincerely,
Norbert
Quoting (sadly) The Doors: "The End":
After painting the interior, adding a inner rear view mirror on the dashboard's top (you can't see it very well on the photographs) and an outside rear view mirror, I'd decided: it's finished!
But only for 99%, because I have lost the rear bumper. :banghead:
I'd asked my my wife Sonja and our daughter Jennifer, if they had seen it, but without success.
The only possibility is, our cat has found it in a moment of inattention by myself and ... :angry:
Nevertheless: when I will find it (undamaged), I will mount it later.
Now the photographs (taken outside together with a 1/48 Lieutenant of the WW I french Aéronautique Militaire):
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0037b4ysfr.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0037b4ysfr.jpg)
(You see, the windcreen is slightly open.)
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0038b8js45.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0038b8js45.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0039bm8s05.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0039bm8s05.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0040b1usgz.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0040b1usgz.jpg)
Unfortunately and I'm sad about and don't know why, not all the glasses of the headlights don't looks clear on the pictures. All were made by glued-in glossy aluminium foil covered by (after drying) clear woodglue. :banghead:
Trust me: if you could see the model in real, the glasses are clear. :thumbsup:
Now, I wait for constructive critics (no matter if good or bad), pieces of advice for the future and honest opinions.
Thank you in advance and thank you for following my build.
Yours, Norbert
LOVE it Max. :wub: :thumbsup: :bow:
Never mind the small details, the idea itself is EXCEPTIONAL, as is the build.
Exactly ! That is just excellent. Looks too right, especially with the figure pondering it !
:drink:
I really do like that. The figure adds so much to it and just seems to be thinking "oh, if only I had the cash"
As my "thank you" for your replies, some better and more detailed bonus close-ups (to show you the dust and the fluffs on the body ;) , photographed under better weather conditions):
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0041ptbzf.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0041ptbzf.jpg)
(Now you can see the inner rear view mirror.)
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0042o7zhi.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0042o7zhi.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0043ijlgc.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0043ijlgc.jpg)
(I'd tried to make the tires more realistic by painting it's treads by a darkened gun-grey.
You see, there are slick tires - I dont had have "engraved" tires in my stock. Sorry, dear friends.)
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0044v1xwz.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0044v1xwz.jpg)
In the future, I must be much more careful handling the plastic windows of my models.
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0045wkyhb.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0045wkyhb.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0046yaytz.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0046yaytz.jpg)
(The officer didn't have no eyes, he only has his eyes closed because of the sun! ;) )
And as a bonus-bonus the second pic in black/white:
(https://abload.de/img/adsc_0042azjyz9.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=adsc_0042azjyz9.jpg)
Greetings from Germany,
Norbert
I love the opening windscreen. :thumbsup:
My Dad had a 1934 (approx.) Austin 12 that had one, and every time I tried to open it with the little crank handle inside he'd scold me because I hadn't moved the wipers down onto the scuttle first. ;D
PR19_KiT: A 1934 Austin 12? So it was presumely an Austin 12/4. But weren't the wipers from above, so there was no need to move them down?
Never mind, I love these ancient (or better: vintage) technology!
My next project is a combination of a Lindberg 1/32 1930 Ford A Pick-Up and a Mini Art 1/35 WW II Harley Davidson WLA. (I'd just started.)
The difference of the original sizes between the different scales are negligible, I think.
I imagine a former french private Ford A, requisitioned by the Wehrmacht for army service after the occupation of France. Then, after D-Day, the Ford was "liberated" by the US-Army and now is carrying the WLA on it's plank bed to the next US repair center after a breakdown.
I know, the WLA is roundabout one meter (3.3 feet) longer than the Ford's plank bed, but that's no problem - I have a solution for. ;)
My question is: is this a "what if" ("What if, the US-Army liberated a french-Wehrmacht Ford A")?
Norbert
:thumbsup: