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Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Mike Wren on October 28, 2004, 10:29:33 AM
they couldn't fit a Merlin in the Mustang...

Equivalent to the Mk XIV, modifications included 6 .50 cal MGs, additional internal fuel in the wing roots & rear fuselage (note the red dots) and provision for 3 drop tanks or 2000 lb of bombs

have also planned a few others including:

P-74A - Mk VIII equivalent with 4x .50 MGs
P-74B - as above but with extra internal fuel & wing hardpoints
P-74D - Mk XIV as modelled here but with bubble canopy, redesignated F-74C & F-74D, used in korea (with big sharkmouth, obviously)

RAF Lend-Lease a/c designated Mk XX (P-74B) & Mk XXX (P-74C)
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Mike Wren on October 28, 2004, 10:32:37 AM
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Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Mike Wren on October 28, 2004, 10:33:35 AM
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Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Mike Wren on October 28, 2004, 10:35:46 AM
forgot to say that it's the Academy 1/72 kit which had the wing panel lines rescribed for the different armament, drop tanks from a Revell P-51B, decals are MPD (I think?), the uppersurface is dark green but looks quite pale on these pics
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Tophe on October 28, 2004, 10:48:55 AM
VERY beautiful... :wub:  :wub: and original with those markings :)
I know the P-74 code is a mystery needing to be filled. Several what-ifers have tried. Justo Miranda nicely sent me a P-74 Forked Lightning picture from Mr Halsted, and I will try to find this source picture for you. It was a mix of P-38 with 2 P-51 tails...
(below the drawing of it in my 2002-book "Supplement n°1 to Forked Ghosts")
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Ollie on October 28, 2004, 10:52:27 AM
Very nice Mike!!!

:wub:  :wub:  :wub:  
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Radish on October 28, 2004, 11:10:24 AM
Stunning, Mike!!
Cool scheme!!
I've a Spit IX done USAAF....think it's on one of Martin's pages from the Nats a couple/three years ago??
Don Gentile's VF-T.
I've at least one Airfix/Otaki Spit to do in perhaps the Blue Nose scheme.
But one with an Old Gold/Black spinner would look good, eh Mikey??
:wacko:  :wacko:  :wacko:  :wacko:  
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: nev on October 28, 2004, 11:33:31 AM
You know, you could have just posted a pic of that 5 bladed prop & I'd have been happy  :wub:


Lovely Mike, great job  :)  
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Aircav on October 28, 2004, 12:26:06 PM
Spitfire.................drool........Cool  :D  :D  :cheers:  
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Martin H on October 28, 2004, 03:20:13 PM
Terrys Yank spit (http://groups.msn.com/TheWhatifandoddballmodelpage/ipmsnationalstelford2002.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=333)

That the one terry?
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Allan on October 28, 2004, 04:16:00 PM
Mike,


Great, great work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Allan in Canberra
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Keith Diamond on October 28, 2004, 04:20:09 PM
Very nice Mike.  I especially enjoy the interesting paint scheme :)  
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Swamphen on October 28, 2004, 05:54:32 PM
Cool!  B)  
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Captain Canada on October 28, 2004, 07:02:27 PM
Looking good, Mikey ! Great model with a great story, very believable !

And nice looking bird, Tophe.......is that a contra-prop in the nose ?

Cheers !

;)  
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: elmayerle on October 28, 2004, 09:00:37 PM
QuoteVERY beautiful... :wub:  :wub: and original with those markings :)
I know the P-74 code is a mystery needing to be filled. Several what-ifers have tried. Justo Miranda nicely sent me a P-74 Forked Lightning picture from Mr Halsted, and I will try to find this source picture for you. It was a mix of P-38 with 2 P-51 tails...
(below the drawing of it in my 2002-book "Supplement n°1 to Forked Ghosts")
Hmm, that one cries out for a mix of Griffons for power - the ones on either side having "handed" rotation on the 5-blade props and then the contraprops on the one in the center.
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Tophe on October 28, 2004, 09:18:17 PM
Quoteis that a contra-prop in the nose ?
:mellow: The nose featured 2 propellers, yes, and technical wisdom leads to make them contra-rotating, but... if you ask "are the blades of the model actually inverted between the 2 propellers?", I could just smile... I know GlennLyn did such a huge work for his-her inverted canard Mustang, and Maybe Alvis3.1 did that too for his inverted Hurricane, but as far as I am concerned I would not have done such a detail that only experts could notice, and I don't know what have been done for the Lockheed/NorthAm/Halsted P-74 Forked Lightning - this modeller is maybe one of us with a different name, and he/she will answer... :)  
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: NARSES2 on October 28, 2004, 11:27:59 PM
There's something about Griffon Spit's with that big prop - they just look so much "harder" then the Merlin jobbies, which look somewhat "dainty" in comparison, in my mind at least.

Still my favourite plane though,whatever engine it has  :wub:  
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Mike Wren on October 29, 2004, 01:30:58 AM
cheers guys!  :wub:

I built it a couple of years ago but never got round to taking any pics, hopefully I'll get time/inclination to get the other ones done sometime soon...  ;)

Rad, your's looks just superb, one of those they takes a couple of seconds to figure out what it is & what it isn't  :wub:  

Mike
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Tophe on October 29, 2004, 05:01:59 AM
QuoteStill my favourite plane though,whatever engine it has  :wub:
Uh, as far as I am concerned :blink: , I was not referring to engine machines but to 'long nose'/'shirt nose' shapes. My plastic models had no propeller to rotate, no need of engine at all... :D  :wacko:  
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Tophe on November 11, 2004, 10:41:05 PM
QuoteJusto Miranda nicely sent me a P-74 Forked Lightning picture from Mr Halsted, and I will try to find this source picture for you.
Here it is, at last... from Finescale Modeller October 2001 :wub:
Quotenice looking bird, Tophe.......is that a contra-prop in the nose ?
Yes, double-prop better shown here, and contra-prop I suppose... :)  
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: NARSES2 on November 11, 2004, 11:11:58 PM
I remember that one now - one thing about FSM they are not afraid to put WIF's in the gallery

Chris
Title: P-74C Spitfire
Post by: Tophe on November 13, 2004, 02:54:57 AM
By the way, reading the title of this topic: have you noticed the name of the plane on my avatar - P-74C exactly! I show it here, a little bigger...
(a P-38 with 2xV1710=1xV3420 as a pusher)