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Title: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: zenrat on December 10, 2015, 01:48:29 AM
What if instead of Sabres the JASDF had bought Daggers?
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4264/34787232944_b150b22e51_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/V12Eom)Convair F-102 Delta Dagger 007 (https://flic.kr/p/V12Eom) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Prevented by Congress from exporting rocket and missile technology to Japan Convair equipped the weapons bay of the F-102 J with a "Gunbelly" holding a pair of 15mm rotary cannons and their corresponding ammunition.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4287/34787233554_43a9a6a12c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/V12EyS)Convair F-102 Delta Dagger 006 (https://flic.kr/p/V12EyS) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4231/35460370142_b81f1aa09a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W2vEC7)Convair F-102 Delta Dagger 004 (https://flic.kr/p/W2vEC7) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
The model.
Hasegawa F-102 with scratchbuilt gunbelly.  Otherwise box stock.
Painted with silver car paint from a rattle can, airbrushed zero paints candies and Humbrol, Model master & Tamiya Enamels.
Decals are a combination of those from the kit (the stencils), Hasegawa Kawanishi N1K1, aftermarket pinstripes, AMT Double Dragster and home made.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4254/34787232374_443a7b56cc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/V12Edw)Convair F-102 Delta Dagger 010 (https://flic.kr/p/V12Edw) by Fred Maillardet (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156376527@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: Gondor on December 10, 2015, 02:07:27 AM
Love the colour of the wing tips and tail fin. Beautiful plumage!

Gondor
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 10, 2015, 02:25:46 AM
Great stuff.  :thumbsup: :bow:

I love the 'gun belly' idea, where did the parts come from please?
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: zenrat on December 10, 2015, 02:26:00 AM
Thanks Gondor.  That's Candy Yellow with a fade of Candy Liquid Bronze along the leading edges.
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: sandiego89 on December 10, 2015, 03:40:42 AM
The bronze turned out great. 
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: Dizzyfugu on December 10, 2015, 03:48:32 AM
Colorful!
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: Mossie on December 10, 2015, 04:29:54 AM
Very shiney! :mellow: Hinomaru look right on the Dagger.

Nice unit marking! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: NARSES2 on December 10, 2015, 04:43:55 AM
Glorious  :bow:
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: DogfighterZen on December 10, 2015, 06:12:17 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 10, 2015, 04:43:55 AM
Glorious  :bow:

My feelings exactly... :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: su27rules on December 10, 2015, 06:53:19 AM
 :thumbsup:  Nice!!
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: The Big Gimper on December 10, 2015, 10:28:05 AM
Love it!!!!  :bow:
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on December 10, 2015, 01:17:14 PM
That looks beautiful! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: zenrat on December 10, 2015, 04:23:09 PM
Thanks folks.  I felt like doing something colourful and shiny for a change.

Kit - the Gun belly parts are all evergreen styrene tube, sheet and strip (and filler - lots and lots of PSR on this one) apart from the guns themselves which are resin 1/35 mini gun barrels with the shrouds left off the ends.
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 10, 2015, 05:39:23 PM
I can believe the amount of PSR you had to do, a zillion years ago I tried to make a TF-102 from the Hasegawa kit and a ModelConversions nose, and trying to get the closed missile bay doors smooth defeated me in the end. Yours looks magnificent.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: zenrat on December 11, 2015, 12:03:43 AM
Thank you.  This model is one of the reasons I named the company that built my combined Spitfire/Bf 109 "Pistophe sans Dingem"...

All Hasegawa had to do was include a closed bay doors piece.  Mind you, the intakes didn't fit too well either.

Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: bobbo on December 11, 2015, 04:16:29 AM
 . . . Now, I'd love to see a JASDF F-106J . . . Same squadron, same colors . . .

bobbo
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: Weaver on December 11, 2015, 04:52:22 AM
That's damned pretty, and the colour scheme also reminds me perfectly of 1950s Japanese toys and sci-fi illustrations. Nice one!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 11, 2015, 11:55:09 AM
Quote from: bobbo on December 11, 2015, 04:16:29 AM
. . . Now, I'd love to see a JASDF F-106J . . . Same squadron, same colors . . .

bobbo

Give Meng enough time to get their lovely Dagger into production and to ship some to Zenrat's part of Oz.....  ;D
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: zenrat on December 12, 2015, 12:03:15 AM
As stated elsewhere this was one half of a Hasegawa F102/F106 double pack so I do have a Dart in the stash.
The two aircraft look too similar to do it in an identical scheme (I have enough trouble remembering which one is which as it is) but a similar one featuring red or green candy could be on the cards when I restock those paints.
Maybe different flights from the same squadron (anyone know the Japanese for Goatsucker?) had different colour wingtips and tails?

How well do the Hasegawa F106 missile bay doors fit in the closed position?

Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 12, 2015, 03:01:20 AM
Quoteauthor=zenrat link=topic=41546.msg711822#msg711822 date=1449907395]

How well do the Hasegawa F106 missile bay doors fit in the closed position?



Just as bad as the Two's do, IIRC it's the same moulding.  :banghead:
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on December 12, 2015, 03:37:08 AM
It depends on how much "milliput" you use. :banghead:..................get the picture?
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: comrade harps on December 15, 2015, 12:57:53 AM
Shiny!  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: zenrat on December 15, 2015, 01:16:23 AM
Thanks bruv.

And thanks Kit & Dork.  I don't know if I can face that much PSR again so maybe the Dart will have the missile bay with something interesting in it.  I do have some Japanese anti ship missiles in a Hasegawa set...
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: PR19_Kit on December 15, 2015, 03:43:00 AM
I've always been amazed none of the aftermarket people didn't offer a one piece replacement for those apologies for missile bay doors, but I guess they never will now, what with the advent of the superior Meng kit.
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: Captain Canada on June 13, 2017, 07:21:16 AM
Nice work Fred that certainly does look right at home in those colours ! Makes sense to me.

:wub:
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: rickshaw on June 13, 2017, 08:00:17 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 15, 2015, 03:43:00 AM
I've always been amazed none of the aftermarket people didn't offer a one piece replacement for those apologies for missile bay doors, but I guess they never will now, what with the advent of the superior Meng kit.

Lone Star Models from the US state of (guess where?) Texas offers a closed F-106 weapons bay door:

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lonestarmodels.com%2F102_doors_installed_op_640x480.jpg&hash=ea98e5f4b1679d851a75f35e428947822bb67884)

Cost, $US10.00 from here -  http://www.lonestarmodels.com/index.html - under 1/72 conversions.

He also offers a broad range of firebomber conversions, for those that might be interested.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: zenrat on June 13, 2017, 09:47:59 PM
Fire bomber Delta Dart, now there's and idea.  Small tank but many trips in a short time...

Thanks Rickshaw, i'm off now to order one of them.

Bugger, minimum order $25 and nothing else takes my fancy.  Oh well.  Maybe later.


Title: Re: JASDF Convair F-102 J Delta Dagger
Post by: Captain Canada on June 14, 2017, 06:11:12 AM
Coo stuff I'm off to check it out !