Thought I would do a little more than drop hints about one of my recent builds.
The following is an excerpt from Wikipedia:
Rhinoplasty (/ˈraɪnəˌplæsti/, Greek: ῥίς rhis, nose + πλάσσειν plassein, to shape), a nose job, is a plastic surgery procedure for correcting and reconstructing the form, restoring the functions, and aesthetically enhancing the nose, by resolving nasal trauma (blunt, penetrating, blast), congenital defect, respiratory impediment, and a failed primary rhinoplasty
Well what I have done and am doing fits the above in more than one meaning of the definition, perhaps I should let the pictures tell the story, then you can guess what has gone into the build so far. ;D
Start with this
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Do this
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Add this
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Put together and you have this
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This is what the underside at the front of the nose wheel well looks like
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Still got some fettling and filling to do before the paint goes on but so far so good I think.
Gondor
Yup looking good
What a big nose you'vre got Mr. Rhino. ;D
Hmmm Rhinoplasty, :o
Well 'Rhino' is/was a nickname for the F-4E, and the only reason (possibly ;D)
That you'd saw the nose off an F-4E and stick it on yet another Phantom,
Would be if that particular kind of Phantom never had a Gun nose and had
'Other' Engines. So my guess is an F-4E(M or K) :thumbsup:
Although I suppose you could also be doing a 'Peace Jack' mod, but the nose looks
To short to me.
Regards
Keith
Beauty. Love the older Phantoms so this is perfect. I'd suggest stepping back a few feet before taking the pics tho.....
:cheers:
Quote from: TallEng on September 26, 2014, 09:17:52 AM
Hmmm Rhinoplasty, :o
Well 'Rhino' is/was a nickname for the F-4E, and the only reason (possibly ;D)
That you'd saw the nose off an F-4E and stick it on yet another Phantom,
Would be if that particular kind of Phantom never had a Gun nose and had
'Other' Engines. So my guess is an F-4E(M or K) :thumbsup:
Although I suppose you could also be doing a 'Peace Jack' mod, but the nose looks
To short to me.
Regards
Keith
Your quite correct other than the fact I did not saw the nose off an F-4E, nor did it break nor did anyone saw it off for me ;D
There was some sawing and a slight amount or breakage involves with the white plastic parts though but that was because the donor aircraft was quite well stuck together.
Quote from: Captain Canada on September 26, 2014, 09:31:05 AM
Beauty. Love the older Phantoms so this is perfect. I'd suggest stepping back a few feet before taking the pics tho.....
:cheers:
Captain, I deliberately took fairly close up shots and cropped the pictures as well. The auto focus on the camera sometimes does not focus exactly where I want it to.
Gondor
Quote from: Gondor on September 26, 2014, 09:35:20 AM
The auto focus on the camera sometimes does not focus exactly where I want it to.
Gondor
I definitely know what you mean there :banghead:
Camera autofocus systems like contrast - edges and borders, patterns etc. If you take a pic of something on (eg.) one of those cutting mats with the grid, the camera will often lock onto the grid rather than the model. Use a plain, blank background to avoid this. A piece of paper (preferably not white) or some plain fabric works well.
If it's a really bad picture then I bin it and take another go at it.
Hope people are enjoying what and how I am doing this build.
Gondor
Quote from: TallEng on September 26, 2014, 09:17:52 AM
Well 'Rhino' is/was a nickname for the F-4E,
In fact the nickname "Rhino" was a USAF term for any version of the F-4.
However you beat me by about twenty seconds with that post so I have just been holding off for a wee while.
Alistair do not worry about your photos, I think they are great. They certainly show what needs to be shown.
Is it going to be ready for the GLasgow show?
Jim
So is it a gun-nosed Spey Phantom then? Will it be navy or RAF? Oooh, or a test bird in raspberry ripple?
Quote from: JayBee on September 27, 2014, 11:46:07 AM
In fact the nickname "Rhino" was a USAF term for any version of the F-4.
However you beat me by about twenty seconds with that post so I have just been holding off for a wee while.
Alistair do not worry about your photos, I think they are great. They certainly show what needs to be shown.
Is it going to be ready for the Glasgow show?
Jim
Jim, I certainly hope so and as long as nothing major happens it should be there, hopefully with a few other new builds as well.
Quote from: pyro-manic on September 27, 2014, 11:50:19 AM
So is it a gun-nosed Spey Phantom then? Will it be navy or RAF? Oooh, or a test bird in raspberry ripple?
Yes pyro-manic it is. RAF and probably 17Squadron as I have plenty of markings for them. I do like the idea of the Raspberry Ripple bird though.
Gondor
Some more "in progress" shots showing how well the parts from the three donor kits have gone together.
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Gondor
Looking good ! Love the Phantom :wub:
I use mu iphone for close up shots. The resolution isn't as good, but it seems to like the 'up close' thing better than my real camera.
:cheers:
The PSR is almost complete and will be by the start of next week. Lots of white to be painted still which I hate as I never seem to get it to cover well or consistently :banghead:
Gondor
I usually do a coat of flat white primer from a rattle can. Goes on really thin but covers well, then I can brush on a gloss coat of white or yellow.
Look forward to seeing more. Love Phantoms...and this one is going to be good !
:cheers:
Quote from: JayBee on September 27, 2014, 11:46:07 AM
Is it going to be ready for the Glasgow show?
Jim
A bit late to answer this one, but yes it will be finished for the Glasgow show, just don't know which year ;D
Small but steady progress here, intakes are painted and are close to getting assembled, however a test fit of the parts showed that there was a slight gap at the bottom on the intakes which I am providing a remedy consisting of a shim of plastic card :thumbsup:
I intend to try a new technique with the air intakes in an attempt to imply that there is some trunking further inside the intakes, pictures later if all goes well.
Gondor
A bit more progress. The Intakes are fitted and filler added which I am in the process of sanding back. Just wondering if I should add leading edge slats to the outer wing panels as I have some spare from a Hasegawa RF-4EJ kit.
Gondor
Any pics for us? :cheers:
Quote from: DogfighterZen on January 07, 2015, 02:04:08 PM
Any pics for us? :cheers:
There will be in a few weeks as I have just checked the paint I have used to prime my PSR and I think I can move ahead and start putting camouflage onto the aircraft so until its getting somewhere with that I will hold back on the pictures.
Gondor
Cool. Glad to hear she's going again. Look forward to seeing the pics !
:cheers:
Gave the model a wash and scrub to make sure that dust and such were not clogging any panel lines.
Decided not to add the outer wing leading edge manoeuvring slats. If I build a second aircraft I will add them and the slatted tail along with the RWR on the fin tip.
Colour scheme will be Light Grey/Extra Dark Grey/Green with black codes and 17 Sqn markings. Roundels and fin flash will be Red/White/Blue and the airframe will have a semi-gloss finish.
No painting until the weekend, not because the aircraft is drying after its bath, just that I have too many things on the go in the next day or so.
Gondor
Personally, I disabled the autofocus on my camera, and set it on Macro when I go to take pics of my work - good for up close details, and if you have it on target focus, you should get better results. It's probably trying to find what it identifies as a face or a target, but if you have it set to just focus on the little crosshair, you'll get better results.
Quote from: Sauragnmon on January 08, 2015, 10:16:26 PM
Personally, I disabled the autofocus on my camera, and set it on Macro when I go to take pics of my work - good for up close details, and if you have it on target focus, you should get better results. It's probably trying to find what it identifies as a face or a target, but if you have it set to just focus on the little crosshair, you'll get better results.
I will have a look at the settings and see what I can come up with.
Realised late last night that the PSR for this build is not over. I still have the air intakes on the nose to add which may require work and there is a small area near the arrestor hook which is not looking as good as it could, in fact there is a bit of a hole, so that will need sorting but on the whole its getting there!
Gondor
Sorted the hole by adding some filler :thumbsup: the air intakes on the sides of the nose are something else though as the parts supplied are either vastly over-scale or during the various PSR sessions I have sanded back the parts which are on the fuselage :blink:
Research is called for I think followed by some more PSR :banghead:
On the whole though I think this is one of my best builds purely on a basis on the finish I am achieving.
Gondor
Right, that's the PSR finished so I thought I would finish off the cockpit.
Not such a great idea as is usual for me often it's more a case of one step forward and two steps backwards :banghead:
There is enough of the cockpit finished so that I can, with a small amount of paint, close up the canopy, wrong! The ejector seats are only partly built and painted :banghead:
Oh well, time to get the paint brush out again :rolleyes:
Gondor
LOL that's why some folk paint the canopy over :thumbsup:
So While I was doing a little work on my F-4L (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,40947.0.html) I managed to finish painting the seats and stick the canopy on! So this build is not dead yet, it has merely been sleeping!
Not decided on the load-out yet, as it's an earlyish aircraft it should be ground attack so I am thinking two rocket pods on each inboard pylon and either a central fuel tank or two outer wing tanks.
Gondor
Rocket pods and a centreline gun pod ? How about rockets, centreline fuel, and outboard guns ? I'm all about the guns right now.... :thumbsup:
Quote from: Captain Canada on August 20, 2015, 05:35:09 AM
Rocket pods and a centreline gun pod ? How about rockets, centreline fuel, and outboard guns ? I'm all about the guns right now.... :thumbsup:
No, no gun pods Captain, I have pretty much decided on the rocket pods though, its just the fuel tanks and where they are. Just had an idea, Sidewinders on the inner pylons, tanks under the outer wings and a bucket of instant sunshine on the centre line pylon, probably have to be a B61 I think though a B58 would do (my designations could be wrong though).
Gondor
Quote from: Gondor on August 20, 2015, 01:53:36 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 20, 2015, 09:15:55 AM
Doesn't the old Airfix F-4D have loads of pylons and stuff? I seem to recall there were far too many to put on the kit all at once.
The old Airfix kit tries to be many things to everyone in one box and as it's a 60's moulding its not to the same level of detail as the more modern kits I am using in this build. Good idea though.
Gondor
Maybe its a good job that I have not revived my other Phantom build as things look as if they are getting a little confusing :blink:
After looking at the list of weapons carried by the F-4 I did get the designation for one of the buckets of instant sunshine wrong. Anyway I have gone off that idea so I will probably settle for just the under-wing fuel tanks and the rocket pods on the inner wing pylons. That does not mean I would not be happy to receive knowledge about or the actual pylons to replace fuel tanks as I have other builds that they would be most useful on.
Gondor
Masked the canopy and air intakes this evening with the hope of nice weather tomorrow so I can use white primer to paint the undercarriage bays, doors and wheel hubs so this build has not hit the buffers yet.....
Gondor
Sounds good. Here's to better weather !
:cheers:
Oh the vagaries of using a spray can! :banghead: It does not help when the can is starting to become empty so coverage was not as good as it could have been. Oh well have to use something else :banghead:
Gondor
Second coat of Light Aircraft Grey on the undersides, it's going to need a third as where some of the white over-spray is bleeding through :banghead: Hopefully on course for it's first public outing at Glasgow later this month.
Gondor
What should be the final coat of Light Aircraft Grey has been applied so hopefully tomorrow I will manage to apply masking tape for the demarcation line so that the Dark Sea Grey can be applied.
Gondor
Sounds good...glad to hear she's going ok ! Sounds like a maddening problem tho, especially when you think you are moving on to the next phase but oh no.... :banghead:
Actually managed to do what I said I would. First coat of Dark Sea Grey has been applied. I also think my painting technique is improving on the canopy as well. Its not perfect but it is just a hairy stick paint and a magnifying glass.
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And this is how she looks at the moment...
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Gondor
That bird looks good! I love that Dark Sea Grey on any aircraft. :thumbsup:
:cheers:
Its a little patchy at the moment but should be a good solid colour by this time tomorrow so by mid week I will have the green part of its camouflage on.
Gondor
Does look good. Love Phantoms :wub:
Second coat of the Dark Sea Grey is on, she no longer looks patchy, just a uniform very dark grey. :thumbsup:
Realised that this particular kit has separate flaps, and guess who forgot to paint the upper surfaces of them :banghead: :banghead:
Gondor
Picture progress for this build
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That's the camouflage done. Next is the nose and the M61 baffle to be painted, both in black but both to be different blacks. Once that is done it will be time to do the metal parts which I am not particularly looking forward to so any tips and help on that will be appreciated.
Gondor
Oh yeah....now we're talking ! I'm no help re: the metal buts, but I'll gladly take any tips myself !
:cheers:
Deffo starting to look the part with the camo on. :thumbsup:
Not much help on the metal parts...
But i really like the looks of this Phantom! :wub:
:cheers:
Just the one update photograph to show how the metal painting went and to show that all the parts are now starting to be put together.
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Gondor
Metal paint looks good, won't take too long to finish this, right? :wub: :thumbsup:
:cheers:
On the home straight I hope.
A coat of Klear tonight ready for decals tomorrow morning, then it should just be a case of adding the wheels which I will Matt later and the undercarriage doors and add the stores. Should be doable by the start of Friday which is my deadline.
Gondor
I am calling this finished. There is a huge amount that "could" be done to this build but its enough for the public to see from the other side of the table so close enough ;D
So I present to you the F-4EM used by the RAF. A Spey engined version of the F-4E to help reduce cost by increasing commonality with the Royal Navy F-4K.
The Aircraft depicted is XV462 of 17 Squadron based at RAF Bruggen during 1972 and is configured for ground attack carrying four 1,000 lb bombs and a Strike Camera.
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Kits used or at least supplied parts are
Fujimi F-4M: Base Kit
Hasegawa F-4E: The separate parts forward of the windscreen from a conversion to an F-4E(S)
Italeri F-4E/G: Nose wheel doors and under nose faring
Hasegawa Weapons set: Triple Ejector Racks
Airfix BAE Hawk: 1,000 lb bombs
Decals were a mix of Model Alliance and Modeldecal
Paint Humbrol Enamel and Acrylic, Xrtracolour
Gondor
I like it! That's turned out very nicely - a real "double take" build.
GOOD JOB.
:thumbsup:
Come out really well :thumbsup:
Beauty. Great selection of pics as well, nice to see her from all of those angles. Love the way those markings look on God`s gift to camouflage :wub: Great job all around and the idea makes sense.
:cheers: :wub: :bow:
Yes, sir! ;D One very good looking Phantom it is! That camo and markings looks great on it, no doubt about it! :wub:
:cheers:
Quote from: DogfighterZen on October 16, 2015, 12:32:19 PM
Yes, sir! ;D One very good looking Phantom it is! That camo and markings looks great on it, no doubt about it! :wub:
:cheers:
The only difference from reality is the F-4E nose with the M61 in it. The rest of the build is a good as I can make it.
Gondor