QuoteBoeing Model 908-909 was the favorite, with the General Dynamics Model 401 and the Northrop Model P-600 being rated as close seconds. The Vought and Lockheed design was deem unsuitable and eliminated.
Boeing 908-909: is it just me or does the nose look like the Angel interceptor from Captain Scarlet? Looks a bit narrow for a radar...
Thanks to Elider for the scan...
Vought's V-1100 design;
Looking at the first two designs, it almost seems like a ventral intake was mandatory, but in fact GD studied a vast number of configurations before settling on the F-16 layout.
Later I will post a vast amount of these models- stay tuned ;)
Hmmm ... I'm still not sure about this Mock-up as being the Boeing LWF-contender because the picture I know so far looks quite different !
Quoteis it just me or does the nose look like the Angel interceptor from Captain Scarlet
Nope your right it does look like a Angel Interceptor !!!. It does make you wonder sometimes where Jerry Andersons model makers got their inspiration from as they often reflect the advanced designs for the period.
The Vought one looks interesting but i think larger ones would be needed before taking a knife to a Crusader or Corsair.
Cheers
Geoff B B)
Deino- its almost the same design, with minor differences. This is the mockup, not a model, and it has wingtip Sidewinders, etc, but its the same design. It also says "Boeing" on the tail ;)
Could this be the aircraft Elmayerle is referring to?
What happens to all these cool mockups after the firms are finished with them?
Nick B)
The bosses son gets to play with them :P
:wub: :wub: :wub: (Overscan & Elider : superstars...) Thanks so much, that is so pleasant a gallery...
QuoteCould this be the aircraft Elmayerle is referring to?
Nope, that's not the Northrop P610 I was referring to. That design had a planform almost indentical to that of the as-built YF-17 but had a single F100 engine. The one time I got a look at a three view, there were some differences in the inlet, though.
QuoteBoeing 908-909: is it just me or does the nose look like the Angel interceptor from Captain Scarlet? Looks a bit narrow for a radar...
You know, I didn't see it at first. I had to find a picture of the Angel Interceptor to refresh my memory. Luckily, I knew of someone who had built one:
Alfred Wong's Angel Interceptor (http://www.alfredsmind.ca/angelpg.htm)
Another Boeing Model 908-909 view via Elider
Here is a clearer drawing of V-1100, but still not enough to tackle a model!
Elider, thanks for the pics you've sent so far I will process them and post tonight if I can. Do you have a higher res copy of the V-1100 scan? If so forward it and I'll make and post a clearer copy.
Quotebut still not enough to tackle a model!
Wanna bet ;)
Ive worked off a lot less than that in the past. But the more info the better.
OK as promised- F-16 studies.
ADF Model 785
ADF 401 FS1
ADF 401/4
ADF 401-F10A
More ADF concepts- model unknown.
again
again
ADF last one
Thanks to Elider, a better look at that V-1100 drawing.
Front view
QuoteWhat happens to all these cool mockups after the firms are finished with them?
Nick B)
Some of the Brit ones are in the Science Museum Nick. Never knew until they had an article on the local London News about the museum opening up their store rooms to the public for one weekend only (tickets all gone) and in the background of the interview with one of the curators was a whole collection of "solid" wood UK aircraft projects. Obviously donated by the companies after the project was ended ?
Chris
Quotea whole collection of "solid" wood UK aircraft projects. Obviously donated by the companies after the project was ended
That's another good reason to wellcome dear Elider as Overscan and Deino finding sources (and me just drawing anymore):
1/ Unbuilt projects may have been companies models
2/ Pictures of unbuilt projects may inspire non-professional modellers
That is perfect reasons, I think. :) Thanks Chris :)
QuoteMore ADF concepts- model unknown.
Oh, I like the look of this one, it reminds me of a F-111 for some reason
:unsure: ;) :P :P :P :P :P
(Posted this yesterday, but the alien space bats ate my post...)
The Boeing 908-909 looks like a F-16 with a Eurofighter intake, that someone used too much glue to attach the nosecone to. :wacko:
I've seen it once, in summer upper level offices, but there's a art book out collecting the work of the gentleman who was GD"s artist for years and it goes into some detail on the evolution of the F-16 design. I wish the employees' club still sold it but, as best I know, it's OOP. :(
Anybody got the drawings or data on the LTV VFX design from the late 60's as a competitor to the F-14 ?
Geoff B B)
There are 4 photographs of the Vought V-507/VFX-1 scale 1 wood-model of 1968 in the book "Les avions Vought" by Bernard Millot, Lariviere publications, pages 434-435. A kind of F-14 with air intakes like Mirages :wub: . No complete data nor 3-view drawing :( .
I am not sure about the Copyright :angry: , but I may send them to you Thor by mail :) .
In the Slovak experimental aircraft site that was posted around here a week or so ago there were a couple of pictures of it. Wish I could remember what that site was -- I shoulda bookmarked it.
QuoteIn the Slovak experimental aircraft site that was posted around here a week or so ago there were a couple of pictures of it.
Here is your source: http://www.hitechweb.szm.sk/fightersAP05.htm (http://www.hitechweb.szm.sk/fightersAP05.htm)
Yep Thors seen those pics :D I think he's after 3 views or at the very least dimentions to work from.
Quotehe's after dimentions to work from.
In "Les avions Vought" (Lariviere pub.) is one of these pictures and 3 others, but all on the ground, not from above, and without dimensions, sorry.
Though, one of the extra pictures gives the scale somehow, with a ground crew, I post here part of it, just to show. Measuring yourself kneeling down, using the profile photograph from the Web above, you will know the aircraft height & length...
The text does not explain much, just mention accute sweeping of the wings, and a huge price (but the selected one, Grumman Tomcat, was even more expensive)...