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General Modelling Forum => General Modeling topics => The Idea Bank => Topic started by: McColm on November 29, 2013, 08:54:31 PM

Title: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: McColm on November 29, 2013, 08:54:31 PM
Seems a logical step forward, not too sure if this has been done before ,but one of the Whiffers will let me know .
Most of the 1/72 kits are from the same mould  and represent the MK3. Although there is a vacform kit with metal propellers and landing gear  exhaust pipes and upper turret .It covers the three
marks .
There are 1/144 and 1/48 kits as well .

The turbojets will be podded in keeping with the period .Or fitted to the wings similar to the Canadian Jetliner .
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: kitbasher on November 30, 2013, 01:42:41 AM
Or maybe the wing roots in the style of he Comet (and of course by extension the Nimrod)?
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: Rheged on November 30, 2013, 01:51:08 AM
A pure JET Shackleton???  Unexpected , but why not?  Whiffworld needs this sort of imagineering.  Go for it!!
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: McColm on November 30, 2013, 07:22:53 AM
If you are into vacform Gerald J. Elliott produce a kit contains : cast metal undercarriage ,wheels ,propellers ,seats, instrument panel ,control columns, and decals .

The Comet idea makes sense, I could use the Alleycat resin parts or raid the spares bin .
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: kitnut617 on November 30, 2013, 07:40:09 AM
Now called Sanger
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: Captain Canada on November 30, 2013, 07:52:33 AM
Podded. I think having them in the wings would be too much engineering, basically resulting in a new aeroplane.

:cheers:
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: TsrJoe on November 30, 2013, 08:02:56 AM
the 'real' design was intedned to have 4x Avons (mounted in twin pods at the wing kink in similar vein to the Avro C.102 ?)

cheers, Joe
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 30, 2013, 08:50:45 AM
Quote from: TsrJoe on November 30, 2013, 08:02:56 AM
the 'real' design was intedned to have 4x Avons (mounted in twin pods at the wing kink in similar vein to the Avro C.102 ?)

cheers, Joe

Derived from the Ashton?
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: kitnut617 on November 30, 2013, 09:17:33 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 30, 2013, 08:50:45 AM
Quote from: TsrJoe on November 30, 2013, 08:02:56 AM
the 'real' design was intedned to have 4x Avons (mounted in twin pods at the wing kink in similar vein to the Avro C.102 ?)

cheers, Joe

Derived from the Ashton?

Other way around Kit ---  ;)  the Comet beat the Jetliner into the air by only 13 days --- the Ashton was still in someones head at that time --
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 30, 2013, 10:34:33 AM
Not what I meant.

I was refering to a Jet Shackleton's engine pods being derived from the Ashton's layout.
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: kitnut617 on November 30, 2013, 11:58:15 AM
My bad ---
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: McColm on March 09, 2014, 11:52:31 AM
I've now got the Shackleton and Nimrod in vacformed kits. Grafting the wing should be a lot easier, than using the plastic models.
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: McColm on April 02, 2014, 08:21:53 PM
Another thought crossed my mind as a whiffery. The Avro Canada Shackleton either the Mk2 or Mk3.I know in the real world that they built the Lancaster in great numbers and one Lincoln. The Canadians did use the early version of the Comet. So building a limited run of the Nimrod export version with the additional tail fin mounted engine. (Found a donor part, that I can use.)
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: Captain Canada on April 04, 2014, 01:00:24 PM
Anything CDN has my vote !

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: McColm on September 23, 2015, 11:35:03 AM
The twin jet engines from a 1/72 B-47E seem to work  
well with the 1/72 Revell Avro Shackleton kit.
The undercarriage needs to be sorted out, should make an interesting civilian airliner. With a single vertical tail fin.
Might fit the single jets onto the wingtips, adding the outrigger gear going for the B-47 landing gear layout, with underwing fuel tanks.mmm
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 23, 2015, 01:07:51 PM
The YB-49 didn't have any pods, all eight engines were buried in the wing. There was a single YRB-49A had one podded engine each side, with  the other six inside the wing, but I don't think there's ever been a kit of it.

Did you mean a B-47?
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: jcf on September 23, 2015, 06:02:13 PM
YRB-49A had six engines, 2 in pods, 2 in each wing.

B-47 or B-36 podded pairs would work.
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: Captain Canada on September 23, 2015, 07:46:11 PM
Now I'm all confused and off to Google some pics  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: kitnut617 on September 23, 2015, 07:57:24 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 23, 2015, 01:07:51 PM
The YB-49 didn't have any pods, all eight engines were buried in the wing. There was a single YRB-49A had one podded engine each side, with  the other six inside the wing, but I don't think there's ever been a kit of it.

Herrylls Execuform does one

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Northrop_YRB-49A.jpg

http://www.edwards.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/090706-F-1234K-056.jpg
Title: Re: All jet powered Avro Shackleton
Post by: McColm on September 23, 2015, 11:28:53 PM
Sorry for the confusion, they are from the Hasegawa B-47E Strato Jet J47-GE-25.
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