ok because of the talk on the c-17 discusion here http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,17869.msg612490.html#msg612490 i thought i built it and hopefully have it finished for telford.
right first stage is a revell c-17 and built the fusalarge normaily but remenber to put in the sun roof as here
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i think this might be helpfull, it says the 2 rear engines are used for VTOL?
seems a bit to large for a VTOL and the engines would be heavily underpowered :-\
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Quote from: Nils on October 13, 2013, 01:04:27 PM
i think this might be helpfull, it says the 2 rear engines are used for VTOL?
Eh? Do they swivel through 90 deg? :o
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 13, 2013, 01:39:41 PM
Eh? Do they swivel through 90 deg? :o
i dont know, maybe we will see it do that later in the seasons, ive only seen the first 3 episodes so far ;D
thanks for that drawing almost put the rear wing to far forward, over here we have had only two episodes, and most of the websites are not working because of rights issuses
Quote from: lenny100 on October 13, 2013, 01:48:37 PM
thanks for that drawing almost put the rear wing to far forward, over here we have had only two episodes, and most of the websites are not working because of rights issues
They are on a Friday night at 9pm on Channel 4 Lenny. I have seen all three episodes so far.
Gondor
Friday at 8PM on C4, also on an hour later if you have Sky and repeated on 4Seven on Sunday at 8PM.
Paul Harrison
Dam it! :banghead: I keep getting that time wrong. Good thing my Skybox is set to record the series.
Gondor
That's pretty wild ! Any progress/ build pics ?
:cheers:
ok sky room cutout
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and rear wings mounted still a lot of psr to go
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Nice one Lenny! Hope you get it done in time! :thumbsup:
Paul Harrison
Nice ! Keep at 'er !
:thumbsup:
Yay, been wondering when one of these was going to come along :thumbsup:
Quote from: Nils on October 13, 2013, 01:04:27 PM
i think this might be helpfull, it says the 2 rear engines are used for VTOL?
seems a bit to large for a VTOL and the engines would be heavily underpowered :-\
It also says they are ramjets, which means they won't work until the thing is doing Mach 1+......
I'd like to see it land vertically at that speed!!
Anyway, looking at them they appear identical to the other 4, so I think someone on the program just saw the word Ramjet somewhere and thought it sounded technical, lol
Being as it's comic-book sci-fi the engines are probably multi-cycle and can switch between
turbo-fan, turbo-jet, turbo-ram-jet, ram-jet, STOVL and VTOL modes, depending on the
needs of the script. And as they're built by Tony Stark who knows what the power output
really is. ;) ;D
Anyhow, a ramjet does not require Mach 1 speed to operate.
BTW the F-35B's P&W F135-PW-600 STOVL engine is multi-cycle, switching between turbo-fan
and turbo-shaft modes.
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on October 16, 2013, 10:28:21 PM
Anyhow, a ramjet does not require Mach 1 speed to operate.
A ramjet has no moving parts. It compresses the air thru a narrowing cone via high speed It requires very high speed air passing thru it (usually around Mach 1) for it to start operating. They generally operate at speeds in excess of Mach 1. Usually around Mach 2.
I think you are confusing the speed of the air through the ramjet, which
is controlled by internal shape with the speed of the air entering the
mouth. The latter does not need to be Mach 1+.
The first successful ramjet powered flight was in 1939 with two mounted
to a Polikarpov I-15 biplane, and I think you'll agree that notion of an
I-15 going Mach 1 is rather ridiculous.
The Leduc 0.10 was the first aircraft to fly solely on ramjet and it's max
speed was 500mph.
I'll have to accept what you are saying. The ramjets I used to work with (Bristol Thors) needed to be pushed to Mach 1 to start working and operated at around Mach 2.
What I do know is that at low speeds they are inefficient, and in VTOL mode completely useless, so in this application, utterly wrong!
ok base coat of ram paint on dosnt look to bad
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Quote from: Nils on October 13, 2013, 01:42:06 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 13, 2013, 01:39:41 PM
Eh? Do they swivel through 90 deg? :o
i dont know, maybe we will see it do that later in the seasons, ive only seen the first 3 episodes so far ;D
Just watched Episode 7. All 6 engines point downwards so the thing can hover. They look to be mounted on a ball joint so they have some degree of sideways directionality.
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on October 17, 2013, 10:46:24 AM
The first successful ramjet powered flight was in 1939 with two mounted
to a Polikarpov I-15 biplane, and I think you'll agree that notion of an
I-15 going Mach 1 is rather ridiculous.
A Mach 1 biplane! GOSH! I assume that the pilot was incapable of coherent speech for some time afterlanding!!
Quote from: Rheged on November 22, 2013, 03:03:53 AM
A Mach 1 biplane! GOSH!
Sure, why not:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/supersonic-biplane-0319.html
Martin
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Quote from: Rheged on November 22, 2013, 03:03:53 AM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on October 17, 2013, 10:46:24 AM
The first successful ramjet powered flight was in 1939 with two mounted
to a Polikarpov I-15 biplane, and I think you'll agree that notion of an
I-15 going Mach 1 is rather ridiculous.
A Mach 1 biplane! GOSH! I assume that the pilot was incapable of coherent speech for some time afterlanding!!
Umm, it didn't go Mach 1.
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on November 23, 2013, 04:24:58 PM
Quote from: Rheged on November 22, 2013, 03:03:53 AM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on October 17, 2013, 10:46:24 AM
The first successful ramjet powered flight was in 1939 with two mounted
to a Polikarpov I-15 biplane, and I think you'll agree that notion of an
I-15 going Mach 1 is rather ridiculous.
A Mach 1 biplane! GOSH! I assume that the pilot was incapable of coherent speech for some time afterlanding!!
Umm, it didn't go Mach 1.
Spoil sport. ;D
CAVEAT: I'm only discussing maximum RATED power here, not publicity-stunts like running an engine on a test-stand under triple-redline conditions for bragging-rights like GE did to get the GE90 up to 128k#+. Also, when I discuss "vertical lift weight", that's kind of a "neutral buoyancy"--you need LESS than this limit to get acceleration, and the further below this upper limit you are the better your climb rate.
I'd also assume the SHIELD bird uses highly uprated engines, or more powerful ones.
The stock F117 engine is good for 40,400# normal max throttle (the proposed C-17B would have used a more powerful engine), but other members of the PW2000 family top out at 43K. So if we figure F117's that's 242,400# of vertical lift, while PW2043 airliner version will deliver a vertical lift of 258,000#. A vanilla C-17 EMPTY is 282,500# and grosses out at 585k#. Maybe if we do a total redesign with more composites (and say some experimental new formulas) that will shave a little--5-10% sound like a reasonably conservative estimate?--BUT we have that new rear wing AND two new engines, AND the fuselage structure to take the stresses from the added wing, AND the pivot hardware and structural reinforcements from it. That's a LOT of added weight, even if we do assume that this thing's not going to need anywhere near the 170,900# payload of the standard trash-hauler model... and two bare PW2000s in F117 form add another 14,200# for just the engines in dry condition--nacelles will add even more.
Bottom-line... without upgrading to the next size up in the engine food-chain, I highly doubt this bird's a true VTOL, that'd be an even bigger sack of manure than the VTOL C-17 in Team Knight Rider ~20 years ago, but a VERY Short STOL is plausible.
Vanilla C-17 weights for reference...
Empty airframe: 282,500#
MTOW: 585,000# (maximum ramp weight allows another 1K if you're just rolling across tarmac)
Maximum usable fuel: -A 180,806#, -ER 244,854#
Max payload: -A 170,900#, -ER 164,900#
Interestingly, at heavier payload weights (around 160K cited) the ER LOSES range over the A, defeating its design purpose, while with a 40K light load (hold full of paras) it posts a gain of 1400nm and ferry range (which I generally consider in "Publicity Stunt" territory) gain of around 1490.
Our new engine should ideally fit in an envelope of about 78.5" fan diameter, with a 141.4" flange-to-flange length. The Rolls-Royce RB211 is similar weight-class with minor mod, topping at 60,600# on the -524HT model. That gets us to 363,600#, which is enough to lift the bare airframe but not a lot of fuel or cargo. If we go to GE CF6's, the best we get is 69,800# out of the CF6-80E1A3, which gets us a vertical of 418,800#. Also, we need to remember that as our engines get bigger and more powerful, they get heavier... which is going to eat some of our power gain, and the required structural reinforcement will add even more.
This leaves an interesting discrepancy... difference between MTOW and Empty is 302,500#.
If we Go Big, the GE90 runs at 135" max envelope/128"fan , 287" length. Six stock GE90-115B's at normal operating power is good for a 690,000# vertical lift IF the structures can take it... the bare engines weigh 18,260#--going from 4xF117 to 6xGE90-115B is an empty weight-gain of 81,160# in engine ALONE.
So, let's work the math piece-by-piece... New empty weight in parens
Starting Empty 282500 (282500)
Delete F117's - -28400 (254100) note: does NOT include pylon or nacelle weight
First 4 -115B's - +73040 (327140) note: again, not including pylon, nacelle or structural reinforcement weight
Rear wing: ???
Rear 2 -115B's - +36520
Of course there's more to be done working the numbers I haven't even touched yet.
Or it could have some other tech... remember how Coulson's Corvette has the full "Hover DeLorean" conversion? (And we KNOW they're playing with some other stuff since they have "heli-carriers" that can't be built with present tech--they make that monster my ex-fighter-jock prof and I designed even with its baked-in anticipation of future tech like fusion reactors and optical cloaking look like a 1700's Ship of the Line by comparison.) Sorry, only caught the pilot... but now thinking this might be a source of ideas for an MC-5 "Special Ops Galaxy" similarly converted into an airborne command-post.
It sure is looking good !
:cheers:
Lola has bugger all to do with the BTTF De Lorean, a flying car has been part of the S.H.I.E.L.D. schtick
in the comic books since the late 1960s.
What the Cap said, any more progress Lenny?
I see you can't be content with just throwing up harassing replies to my every post at Beyond The Sprues anymore...
@OP, nice work tackling a challenging and Outside the Box subject.
any update on this build lenny?
I came across this build while researching images for the Bus for my build... This whole project is my first ever kitbash (using 2 c-17 kits), and also the very first replica prop my new company is making. This one will be a one-off and will probably stay with me (unless someone make a nice offer), but I plan on building another 3 or 4 that will be 'in-flight' like on Coulson's desk.
Unlike your build Lenny, I modeled mine after the aircraft seen on-screen.
First, I started with the engines. The kit supplied were just all wrong. 18 additional pieces of styrene per engine were added to make it look right. There's still some scribing that has to be done to them so they're accurate.
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I've cut and stretched the airframe and cargo area...
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She's getting fiber optic lights, so I needed to fabricate a PCB for the LED's... the board has 1 green LED with a dimmer, 1 strobe, 2 bright white leds and the 2 for the nav lights. It's all activated by a touch-sensitive on switch with a timer that's going to be in the shape of the SHIELD logo on the base.
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12v power comes via the landing gear
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The rear wings on the screen aircraft aren't as far back as they're shown on the blueprint. They fit nicely.
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cockpit details...
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Modification of the longer sponson to match the other side...
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Quick dry-fit to see how it is on the 40cm2 x 1cm thick Black Granite tile that will be part of the base. The base will have a 25mm thick plywood backing and be surrounded by either mahogany, walnut or red oak moldings.
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I'm currently in the process of closing up the holes and prepping it for it's first coat of primer... Beyond that, there are still hours of scribing, sanding and finishing before I consider the aircraft ready for paint.
A mind bogglingly complex and clever build.
But quite how the 'designers' expected the aft engine to work in level flight I have no idea. Maybe they didn't and were only meant to work in the VTOL mode?
Thanks :)
Makes some sense actually since in one of the scenes in the show, someone get's sucked out of a hole blasted in the side just forward of the rear engine and instead of him getting sucked in and turned into hamburger, he hits along the side of the engine and away he goes. If that thing were on, he would have had a bad day. On the other hand, showing someone get sucked into an engine mid-flight and spit out the back doesn't make for good family TV.
A herculean effort :bow:
Quote from: Flyer on July 03, 2014, 08:38:50 AM
I havn't watched this show yet, but I'm going to after seeing this. The very idea of a VTOL C-17 sounds great. The model is fantastic. :thumbsup:
Thnks... just be careful... while researching for the bus, I watched every episode several times over. I started to think like the SHIELD scientists... one example is the on switch. I could have just gone with a standard on/of slider or toggle switch. No, instead, the nerd in me took over and opted for a touch sensitive on switch that's timed to go off. I used 2 555 timer chips for the board inside the plane and one 555 timer chip for the on switch. Here's a youtube clip of it workin... this was after I had worked it all out. My first ever. :wub:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpNll31FmM0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpNll31FmM0)
Teddz, you the guy who was asking over at the AOS Wiki? I'm the guy who linked the thread, and posted the engine math a ways back. :)
no, I'm not the guy who asked over at the AOS wiki, but I did answer and hopefully helped the guy out a bit with his build. It's a bit of a PITA to be honest... :lol:
Quote from: Teddz on July 03, 2014, 11:15:16 AMIt's a bit of a PITA to be honest... :lol:
I bet--I'm having enough problems just trying to bash an F-15 into a mixed NF-15B ACTIVE front-half/Silent Eagle back-half. LOL
my build hit a big stumbeling block, a bad day and a big hammer in the back of a rubish truck, had a crate of stuff next to my shed mostly half builds etc, as i sorted out my stuff in the shed were i do most of my sprat painting, and somebody decided it was funny to remove the crate and put it next to the bins awating emptying, so its gone........
Lenny, I hope that person has been swiftly and summarily invited to remove themselves from your household... :(
Quote from: Diamondback on July 08, 2014, 02:53:12 PM
Lenny, I hope that person has been swiftly and summarily invited to remove themselves from your household... :(
wasnt from my hosehold, my shed is next to my back wall which is only 4 foot high, and i know i shouldnt of left it their but the misses does make a good cuppa
the biggest loss was a 1/48 tsr2 which i was slowly makeing which had ALL the czech master upgrade kits and was about 80% done
That's just tragic man. I was hoping you had finished it up and it was on a shelf somewhere lookin pretty.
I have a standing rule, absolutely nothing is to be touched where I have something going on. NOTHING. Not even a cleaning. I'm the only one allowed anywhere near my workstation. Want something, ask for it. Want it cleaned? Forget it. It's my area, stay away, it doesn't exist for you. I even have my dogs trained not to eat anything off the floor. They just sniff it and leave it alone.
Also helps that I'm single and have more than enough room to dedicate 98 m2 to my design/model/prop studio.
I have yet to find a woman that will leave me alone long enough for me to be productive before all the "let's go out", "why are you watching star wars/buck rogers/Agents of SHIELD/Spaceballs again, and don't say 'it's for work'?", "what's that smell?(paint/glue/resins/etc.)", or my all time favorite "why are you playing with toys?" (which is usually when I break out with the 80's Toys R us theme song) starts up and just escalates to nagging I just don't have time for.
My plan for the next 5 years are as follows:
- 3 more models of the Bus as they are on Coulson's desk - in flight - already sold.
- Studio Scale & Half studio scale Buck Rogers Thunderfighter, HBB Starfighter, Warhawk and the MKIII starfighter. *
- Studio Scale Victory II Class Imperial Star Destroyer & later on a 1/2 studio scale. *
- Either studio scale or 1/2 studio scale X-wing, Tie Fighter, Tie Interceptor, B-Wing, Y-Wing, AT-AT, AT-ST *
* I might possibly make very limited kits of these models if there is enough interest.
Now, with all that work that studio scale models require, and then making everything else, relationship??? I ain't got no time for that. Got models to make.
Quote from: lenny100 on July 08, 2014, 02:51:44 PM
..... and somebody decided it was funny to remove the crate and put it next to the bins awating emptying, so its gone........
That's a HANGING offence! :o
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 08, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
Quote from: lenny100 on July 08, 2014, 02:51:44 PM
..... and somebody decided it was funny to remove the crate and put it next to the bins awating emptying, so its gone........
That's a HANGING offence! :o
If they're lucky & I'm feeling all fluffy-duck! :wacko:
It's been a while since the last update... I've been very busy with several projects including building my own CNC router and CNC laser cutter/engraver. Anyway, I'm finishing up the Bus for a IPMS-Hellas show this October.... Here's what's transpired...
One of the last modifications was the addition of the hump. I've cut the section away at the panel line and kept the arch for the cockpit glass, also to keep things where they're supposed to be.
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First attempt at getting the height, I glued 2mm styrene strip but it was too much and made it look strange.
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The angle was all wrong, so I removed the 2mm and put in 1.4 mm strip. Cut a couple of reliefs into the top and heated them until I got it where I wanted. Looks much nicer. Ugly, but nicer.
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Next on the hump, was the skylight for Coulson's office. This little thing took me all day, literally 8-fun-filled-exiplative-laden hours to complete. I had only one shot to get it right and kept checking and rechecking against the screen caps I had because failure at this point would be very bad (no spare fuselage to cut up). I went very slow when cutting too. That square hole by the wing is an access point so I can drill into the LED and attach the Fiber Optics for the office.
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all cut out... I can relax.
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Since it's going to get 'frosted glass' it needs a backing...
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One of the 3 fiber optic strands in the office.
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Now that the office is done and in place, top section attached, time to close it up.
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The area of the hump just aft of the office is too flat. Millitput to the rescue!!
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Still needs a bit of work, but it's looking good.
And let's not forget to plug it in as see it all lit up.
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So that's where she's at...
Blimey, that's a tour de force and no mistake! :o :thumbsup: :bow:
like does not go far enough true work of art on the way
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 18, 2014, 03:10:21 PM
Blimey, that's a tour de force and no mistake! :o :thumbsup: :bow:
Thanks... :cheers:
Once this one is done, I'm going to start on a 1/72 resin version of this using the Anigrand C-17 kit. Plans are, since it's large enough, to make some of the control surfaces move and even possibly the engines too, the Lab, Lola and Coulson's office will be viewable through the skylight. If all goes well with that one, I'll offer up a couple of kits with possible expansion sets for the moving surfaces, engines and whatnot.
Thanks Lenny :cheers:
Maybe you can start building another one...
S.H.I.E.L.D Director Coulson Aproves :thumbsup:
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the engines are 'done'... In total, each of the 6 engines received an addition 21 bits of styrene to make them 'look the part'. 126 additional pieces in all.
started with 1.5 x 2.5 mm styrene strip and set up a jig from scrap wood, vice on a ball joint holding my dremel to get the angle right. then cut them to 13mm bits and used a jewelers hand vice and file to sand them down to shape. Used a black marker to tell how much material was being removed... much easier than the all-white.
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All six line up with some primer... still some sanding, filling, scribing, rinse & repeat left to do, but the hard part is over.
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:thumbsup:
Wow.....is she ever coming together now ! Looks awesome....and huge !
:cheers:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Some work on the parts of the Touch Sensitive on switch that's on the base...
I used a leftover piece of Billet T4 Aluminum.
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Put it on the milling machine to cut out the notches... Ended up breaking a drill bit and had to take it down quite a bit more, but still had enough material to make it all work.
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Here's the teaser of what it'll look like with the logo in the mix. I'm keeping it a brushed aluminum finish. Tomorrow I'll be drilling and tapping the holes for the screws and also be picking up some 4mm plate T4 aluminum to cut out the logo pieces and start getting the electronics and PCB worked out to fit nicely inside that cup.
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You're really showing off now....working in aluminium ?! Right on !
:cheers:
struth - great build. Bernie
Quote from: Teddz on October 05, 2014, 05:55:49 PM
I used a leftover piece of Billet T4 Aluminum.
Yes, I'm always wondering what do with all my leftover pieces of Billet T4 Aluminum. ;D :lol:
hahahaha you guys are too much... I assure you, I'm not showing off... much... I just have a tendency to overbuild things.
I've had that piece of aluminum for at least 8 years. Some years ago I started making gauge cluster rings for the 1989-1999 Nissan Fairlady 300zx and used T4 Billets to make them. I made & sold 750 sets (4 rings per set) before stopping the run and going into the Greek army. I've also made other parts for the same car, since I own one (a 93 Twin Turbo) and made the parts for myself first. I just found others who were willing to pay me to make them parts too. ;D
Wait until this switch is done... it's going to be bananas.
**update** the logo bits are done...
here it is laid out on the 4mm plate aluminum
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das logo!
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3928/15459418921_af4dde3cc2_z.jpg)
Now the bits need a bevel and the brushed finish has to go in the same direction.
Mad skills Teddz. I've got a small lathe but i'd love a milling machine to go with it.
That is truly AWESOME work there Teddz! :thumbsup: :bow:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 07, 2014, 12:31:10 AM
That is truly AWESOME work there Teddz! :thumbsup: :bow:
Beat me to it
Beautiful, Teddz.
If I may offer a suggestion: it might look better to have the brushing on the "eagle wing feathers" go down the long axis of those pieces... just a thought, it might work or might not--and I know metal prices ain't cheap right now, so go with your own gut. :)
Wow. Can you make me some 1:1 scale moto bling ?
:thumbsup:
Great stuff.
:cheers:
I can make just about anything... all I need is the design or concept, some measurements, what material and how it's going to mount. My new company may be centered around replicating models & props, but in reality, it's a full on custom anything shop. From models and props to actual cars and motorcycles/choppers... even furniture, sculptures and stained glass... I pretty much do it all and can work just about any material (I'm still having a bit of an issue working Titanium though). PM me what you're looking to do to your moto.
if you do make a kit i will be haveing one
thanks guys...
Lenny, I won't make a kit at this scale, but I might offer some resin casts of parts for this conversion. I will be working on producing a resin kit at 1/72 scale which will be completely off the wall. The 1/72 c-17 has a 722mm span and 736mm length, so it's big... but big also means more detail, and also means other than the span, the Bus will be longer. So you need space for this, preferably somewhere where it won't get tossed into the rubbish bin. ;)
Now taking into consideration that i have a 1/72 scale type 23 frigate the 1/72 scale c-17 isn't that big,
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo1%2Flenny100%2FSeptember2-10middot45-Dsc02242_zpsd2f8a0e1.jpg&hash=87db90c38bd19f779b04461ea9966b09658e5765)
ROTFL! ;D :lol: :thumbsup:
Woah ! That is huge ! Going to be RC ?
:cheers:
Unbelievable :blink:
Holy crap!!! :o
That thing is enormous!!! Ok, I see what you're saying. I'll put you on the list of interested parties for the 1/72 Bus kit. I plan on it being completely insane. Much more detail than this one.
I finished up the top portion of the on switch. Beveled the aluminum bits, bonded them to the acrylic and sanded the backside of the acrylic.
After finishing up the beveling.
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Bonded to the acrylic
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top portion done, set on lower portion... screws will be last since the thread is so fine I don't want to risk messing them up.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3936/15309473110_26136c504f.jpg)
Looking top-down.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3941/15309616617_fd7d270889.jpg)
Now come the circuit boards that will be bonded to the underside of the acrylic under each corresponding logo bit that will hold the LED's and electronics that will make it all work. The test I made using some scraps proved my design, so if touched anywhere on the logo, not the ring, it will trigger the timed ON circuit. This means the logo lights up as well as the Bus and depending on how big the capacitor bank I build into the base is, the longer it stays on before automatically shutting off.
Dinner time.
You could sell that as jewellery! :thumbsup: :bow:
Amazing work.
Let there be light!
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14 3mm LED's along with a 555 chip and related resistors are in the billet aluminum cup behind the logo. The capacitors, which determine how long it stays on are going to be built into the base since there's no room.
See post #71............. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Woah !
:wub: :bow:
Yowser!
I'm envious of people who can wire stuff together. and get it to work like that I get lost wiring up speakers.
tremendous work :thumbsup:
The logo switch is done. Got the M2 stainless steel allen head machine screws and a set of taps I needed to button it up. All that's left for it now is to be installed in the base and wired up to await the addition of the Bus.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5615/15620734501_33f658cbbc_z.jpg)
Magnificent stuff, just that badge bit should be in a museum somewhere. :thumbsup: :bow:
So hows this all going?
In the last episode of the show I watched The Bus now has an extremely large gun mounted on its belly and has a cloak.
Uffff!
Speachless!!
Norbert
Updates were coming fast and furious for awhile ! Almost forgot all about this one ! The gun option sounds pretty wild.
:cheers:
Yea, I had to stop working on it for a while... needed to get some other projects out to pay the bills. I'm currently finishing up the first round of production on the Light-up logo I made for my display (in both SHIELD and HYDRA versions) as a stand-alone display piece.
Once the first round is done, I'll get back to the 1/144 Bus while I wait for the 1/72 Anigrand C-17 kit to arrive so I can then start converting that into an over-the-top Bus version. This one will most likely be offered up as a kit provided my Belgian connection can make the molds.
As for the cloaking, I was considering making one out of clear acrylic to mimic it... I'm not going to attempt an actual cloaking mechanism yet.
After seeing what you've done with the wee version the 72nd scale version is going to blow us away !
:bow:
Seeing as the cloak on the show is as efficient as that on a Klingon Warbird ("remember where we parked") you wouldn't need to actually make anything. Just tell people you had.
"Yes, it's over there. Just beyond your reach..."
Hi everyone... not really much going on with the Bus build since I was having a major issue with some electronics that didn't want to work right. It consumed me entirely until I figured out the issue. Finally figured it out and managed to get the first few finished up and sent out to patiently waiting customers.... ;D
It's a stand-alone version of the touch sensitive ON switch I made for my Bus build. Enough people bugged me about it that I decided to make a few of them. I made them larger (4.5" instead of 3.5"), used the same high-grade billet aluminum construction (this time with a deeper bottom cup), M2 Stainless Steel Allen head screws, frosted acrylic, updated circuit boards, 9V battery (instead of 12v power supply) operation, an expandable capacitor bank that can accept up to 4x 1000uf or 1x 10000uf capacitor (I set it up initially with 1x 1000uf which is good for 35 seconds of ON time) and embed this all in a wooden base with a green felt bottom. Then I pack it up in a custom made padded wooden box that helps protect it during shipping and also serves to store it or display it.
Both of these have an extra wire installed that allows for connecting to something else to trigger it ON, so basically I can take either one of these and hook it up to my Bus and it'll turn it on like the original on switch does. Not necessary to connect it to anything else, bu the option is there. ;)
I made both SHIELD and HYDRA versions...
SHIELD...
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(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/326/19596770809_c81b60bb9f.jpg)
HYDRA... A real pain to prep, but so worth it... it's my favorite looking of the two. Bad guys always have the cool logos.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/544/19776074462_247921c955.jpg)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/522/19757182206_0c07491924.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3730/19160748974_a782a1d7f2.jpg)
Now that I'm getting these sorted and no longer completely consumed by electronics that don't want to work, more Bus updates will follow soon. Cheers! :cheers:
:bow:
This is craftsmanship :bow:
Look what came in the mail today...
1/72 Anigrand C-17 Globemaster III Resin kit that I'm going to chop up and convert into another Bus... a Monster Bus. :drink:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5651/21040303565_cf932aa26f_z.jpg)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/568/20417597064_ddc26f0410_z.jpg)
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It's so big!! heh.
Wow ! Is that ever !
:cheers:
To paint that you'll need an automotive spray gun rather than an airbrush.
you mean like these?
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5784/20871028629_7b942089ce_z.jpg)
It's what I was using when doing some work on my 1993 Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo. I LOVE PPG products.