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Title: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on January 12, 2013, 05:29:47 AM
I am going to build the Transavia PL-12 Airtruk (Sharkit 1/72) as a triplane, asymmetric (with one boom shorter than the other) and with a streamlined pod. This is just fun, far better could be done than what I will do.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2F006r_zpsa904c3f8.jpg&hash=c02d5ee9e8e44880cf1f9761cb9a47fa2496c5a0)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: ericr on January 12, 2013, 07:07:17 AM
doing it just "as is" would already be strange-looking, but the announced program sounds amazing!
let's see what it will give  :smiley:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: loupgarou on January 12, 2013, 09:02:11 AM
Quote from: ericr on January 12, 2013, 07:07:17 AM
doing it just "as is" would already be strange-looking, but the announced program sounds amazing!
let's see what it will give  :smiley:

Thope, you chose a bizarre aircraft to start with, and plan to "better" it  :banghead:  ;D
What kind of alcoholic drink would you suggest as appropriate to have at hand when you'll show your creation?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on January 12, 2013, 04:49:11 PM
Quote from: ericr on January 12, 2013, 07:07:17 AM
doing it just "as is" would already be strange-looking, but the announced program sounds amazing!
let's see what it will give  :smiley:
You know, my skills are very low. I am just having fun with bizarre transformation, tried in a physical way, not only drawing.

Quote from: loupgarou on January 12, 2013, 09:02:11 AM
Thope, you chose a bizarre aircraft to start with, and plan to "better" it  :banghead:  ;D
What kind of alcoholic drink would you suggest as appropriate to have at hand when you'll show your creation?  :rolleyes:
The goal is not "improvement", just weirdness. And I belong to the mad ones, no need of alcohol for us ;)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Father Ennis on January 12, 2013, 04:56:45 PM
Way Kool , model !!!!!!   Didn't a bi-plain version feature in one of the "Mad Max" movies ?  I remember that wierd cockpit/body and the twin tails. I have always thought it was a very interesting design. Where does one find this little beauty ???


                  Father Ennis ...
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on January 12, 2013, 05:18:00 PM
It seems the boxart comes from MadMax movie...

I got it there:
http://sharkit.com/sharkit/airtruk/airtruk.htm

Sharkit-man, Renax, is one of our members here. His topic is
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,23401.0.html
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: NARSES2 on January 13, 2013, 02:10:01 AM
This is going to be fun  ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: ericr on January 13, 2013, 02:25:14 AM
Quote from: Tophe on January 12, 2013, 04:49:11 PM
You know, my skills are very low. I am just having fun with bizarre transformation, tried in a physical way, not only drawing.

my skills are a bit limited too, especially in the range of colours  :lol:
sometimes I think that better-skilled modellers could take up some of our ideas, and make impeccable models of them.


Quote from: Tophe on January 12, 2013, 04:49:11 PM
The goal is not "improvement", just weirdness. And I belong to the mad ones, no need of alcohol for us ;)

it's just like with some of the music I listen to : no chemical additive needed, I like it soberly  ;)

Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Captain Canada on January 22, 2013, 06:41:10 AM
The thing doesn't even look like it would fly...probably fly better after the Tophe treatment ! Would look cool in mad max colours as well.

:cheers:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on January 22, 2013, 09:46:02 PM
Thank you all.
Here is the project a little advanced (truncated main wing, sharp nose from a Junkers EF-112, discarded undercarriage for in-flight aspect):
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2F001f_zps46132c07.jpg&hash=d95718ff4354b024f1c844cebd7c9445b53fd4b8)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on January 25, 2013, 05:15:34 PM
As I am not a good-enough modeller, able to handle properly the (included) thermoformed canopies, I have filled the windows with putty, and I will draw freely black windows with a pen. The first sanding is done but PSR is required:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2F001rs_zps3e38b192.jpg&hash=70188fd350371ebebad2fc41fb5001c02eba636a)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Father Ennis on January 25, 2013, 06:53:19 PM
Looking good there ,buddy !!!   Don't sell yourself short. How do you think the "good modelers" got that way ?  You are way ahead of most modelers in that you are posting here what you are done. Keep up the good work,my friend ... !!!
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: NARSES2 on January 26, 2013, 01:14:15 AM
Agree with Father Ennis Tophe. Your "creations", because that's what they are, always look good to me.

Chris
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on January 26, 2013, 01:16:30 AM
Thanks a lot, my friends, for the psychological support, better than psychiatric pills :blink: ;D
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Captain Canada on January 26, 2013, 09:51:48 AM
...and by drawing in your own windows, your passengers will have a much better view if you add a few/ make them larger !

:cheers:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on January 26, 2013, 09:55:48 AM
My intention is to make the windows so big, this would look like a tiny 1/48 plane...
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 01, 2013, 10:07:54 PM
Finished at last (after my young son broke it twice)...
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2F003r_zpsa8ed9bd5.jpg&hash=6e5d8b302bc7457f29f4f74416c1396cd6704728)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 01, 2013, 11:43:24 PM
The other side:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2F001r-1_zpse233c1a6.jpg&hash=e536354402f50bd2bf2481352ba9964ec3909aad)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 02, 2013, 12:06:25 AM
The asymmetry of the booms (as the triplane layout reducing span) is justified by the very little room remaining on my bookshelves...
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2F007ra_zps216144da.jpg&hash=0cf4a8f6abc5adf3f8262db935382496e22fb6d4)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 02, 2013, 12:12:53 AM
Focus on the PL-123 Trukair...
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2F006r_zps12026386.jpg&hash=047a428e4e9518b7c8d7ff67f89253667bf762c8)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: NARSES2 on February 02, 2013, 01:31:59 AM
Pure Topheism  :bow: :bow:

Now if that was painted yellow I could see it starring in it's own childrens tv cartoon series  ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 02, 2013, 03:31:47 AM
The reasoning behind the boom's assymetry is wholly logical and wildly hilarious, both at the same time!  :thumbsup: ;D
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: ericr on February 02, 2013, 04:58:41 AM
bravo indeed!

innovative, assymetric, and with booms : totally typical!

the grey color has a neutrality that makes the shapes stand out, but is a bit dull : I would also vote for yellow  ;)

Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: loupgarou on February 02, 2013, 06:33:30 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 02, 2013, 03:31:47 AM
The reasoning behind the boom's assymetry is wholly logical and wildly hilarious, both at the same time!  :thumbsup: ;D

Like the history of your daughter's Spitfire reversed wings!  ;D :lol:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Captain Canada on February 02, 2013, 08:09:53 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 02, 2013, 01:31:59 AM
Pure Topheism  :bow: :bow:

Exactly ! I know you don't like it Tophe, but from a military stand point, it looks like something special ops, that could be dropped from the back of a transport and sailing hundreds of miles undetected !

:wub:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 02, 2013, 10:35:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Canada on February 02, 2013, 08:09:53 AM
it looks like something special ops, that could be dropped from the back of a transport and sailing hundreds of miles undetected !
Or for tourism, to fly over "national parks for birds" where propellers are forbidden... Thanks for this dream :thumbsup:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 02, 2013, 10:37:50 PM
Quote from: ericr on February 02, 2013, 04:58:41 AM
the grey color has a neutrality that makes the shapes stand out, but is a bit dull : I would also vote for yellow  ;)
Thanks for your nice comments, all of you.
Just a detail: the colour is not grey but sky blue, as can be seen on a grey background:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kristofmeunier.fr%2Fr_-003.JPG&hash=c37c77debde613c05e5627f85ca334426370b34b)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: pyro-manic on February 03, 2013, 12:26:12 AM
Put some big eyes on instead of those windows, and you've got a character in the next "Cars" movie! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: ericr on February 03, 2013, 02:01:28 AM
Quote from: Tophe on February 02, 2013, 10:37:50 PM
Just a detail: the colour is not grey but sky blue, as can be seen on a grey background:

ah this view shows the asimetry very nicely

ok for the sky blue,  indeed
(it's just that I love bright colors  ;) )
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 03, 2013, 05:27:11 AM
Quote from: pyro-manic on February 03, 2013, 12:26:12 AM
Put some big eyes on instead of those windows, and you've got a character in the next "Cars" movie! :thumbsup:
Good idea: my next model will have eyes, I swear it will! Thanks a lot for the idea! :thumbsup:

Quote from: ericr on February 03, 2013, 02:01:28 AM
ah this view shows the asimetry very nicely
Just part of the asymmetry, because the port boom starts drom the middle wing and the starboard boom starts from the high wing...

Quote from: ericr on February 03, 2013, 02:01:28 AM
(it's just that I love bright colors  ;) )
As far as I am concerned, I don't like bright colors, sorry (reminding my nasty brother, who is color-blind and always wears bright colors)...
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Captain Canada on February 03, 2013, 06:54:17 AM
...or for flying over parks ! Good call, Tophe !

:cheers:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Sticky Fingers on February 03, 2013, 08:57:02 AM
Nice one, Tophe, my compliments! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: ericr on February 04, 2013, 12:08:40 AM
Quote from: Tophe on February 03, 2013, 05:27:11 AM
Quote from: ericr on February 03, 2013, 02:01:28 AM
(it's just that I love bright colors  ;) )
As far as I am concerned, I don't like bright colors, sorry (reminding my nasty brother, who is color-blind and always wears bright colors)...

ok,  we share the fact that we like to paint models monochrome   <_<
 
by the way I still haven't found the P-38 egg 3D view in my archives, maybe I don't have them anymore ...
but I found pictures of the box, which I put in the same album on photobucket as this one, of a floatplane version (happen to be yellow  ;) )
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy435%2Fericr63%2Fhyd%2Fp38egg-s_zps5538cb70.jpg&hash=70abfcab59a60c747b1586003898efd96b605abb)

the link to the album is  http://s1274.beta.photobucket.com/user/ericr63/library/hyd

à plus


Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 04, 2013, 08:30:15 AM
Thanks for the nice words, all of you. :lol:

Ericr, special thanks for the P-38-egg-box view that may be enough for me to draw, I will see. <_<
I may draw your own float-egg (beautiful :wub: ), celebrating your build, the nose seems different from the profile too.
By the way, why is your account on Photobucket called ericr63: are you born in 1963 like me? ;D (no need to answer)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: ericr on February 04, 2013, 12:08:25 PM
Quote from: Tophe on February 04, 2013, 08:30:15 AM
Ericr, special thanks for the P-38-egg-box view that may be enough for me to draw, I will see. <_<
I may draw your own float-egg (beautiful :wub: ), celebrating your build, the nose seems different from the profile too.

please do draw it ; the nose is the original one : apart from the floats (and color) it's all Out Of the Box

Quote from: Tophe on February 04, 2013, 08:30:15 AM
By the way, why is your account on Photobucket called ericr63: are you born in 1963 like me? ;D (no need to answer)

yes indeed : some people say I am a bit colorblind, but apart from that, we do have some tastes in common  :lol:
I still remember my surprise when I first saw your drawings; I think I was looking for info about the flying boat version of the Gotha 242... (of which I made an approximate model with what I knew) (... in yellow ... :-? )




Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 05, 2013, 04:24:56 PM
Thanks ericr!

Well, I have added "a reason to be asymmetric" on my explanation site
http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/asym_dahu_aeroUK.htm
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2Fr_DaU_51_a_zps4f4b5f3f.jpg&hash=8d098255b2fa14c4c15857251bd7a3af6b275811)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 06, 2013, 08:45:07 AM
Quote from: Tophe on February 03, 2013, 05:27:11 AM
the port boom starts drom the middle wing and the starboard boom starts from the high wing...
Better seen here:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kristofmeunier.fr%2Fr_004rs.JPG&hash=fd31b4cecaff2442c672fc6158095823e67c92d3)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 06, 2013, 10:35:15 AM
Hehehe, magic!  :lol:

Only you Tophe, only you.....  ;) :thumbsup: :bow:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 06, 2013, 08:48:01 PM
Thanks Kit for your indulgence... Well, I am not sure this is called modelling  :blink: , just "having fun with model parts" :-\ ;)

PS. Ericr: your egg-float-Lightning is featured at the end of my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit Thanks again!
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: ericr on February 07, 2013, 11:34:18 AM
Quote from: Tophe on February 05, 2013, 04:24:56 PM
Well, I have added "a reason to be asymmetric" on my explanation site
http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/asym_dahu_aeroUK.htm

wah; bright colors !?!  ;D

the "explanation" is completely convincing!
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: ericr on February 07, 2013, 11:39:25 AM
Quote from: Tophe on February 06, 2013, 08:48:01 PM
PS. Ericr: your egg-float-Lightning is featured at the end of my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit Thanks again!

beautiful! thanks for including my humble contributions in your catalogue.
I have a third attempt at floatplanizing a P-38, with a 1/48 Droop (the two others were blue and yellow, so this one is red, obviously)

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy435%2Fericr63%2Fhyd%2Fp38-48-s_zps51c20e5c.jpg&hash=e9477b10b2c32b20f8de6800de5d2485918b440a)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 07, 2013, 04:52:15 PM
Quote from: ericr on February 07, 2013, 11:34:18 AM
wah; bright colors !?!  ;D
I admit colours do help classified explanations... And your bright models for fun (as well as Reno racers) are not "shocking", simply this is not my favorite way.

Quote from: ericr on February 07, 2013, 11:39:25 AM
Quote from: Tophe on February 06, 2013, 08:48:01 PM
PS. Ericr: your egg-float-Lightning is featured at the end of my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit Thanks again!
I have a third attempt at floatplanizing a P-38, with a 1/48 Droop
This great new one :wub: is featured also on the same site tonight... Thanks for having enriched the collection. Do you have an idea what would be the missing EF-38C? An egg-Droop?
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: ericr on February 08, 2013, 12:14:04 AM
Quote from: Tophe on February 07, 2013, 04:52:15 PM
This great new one :wub: is featured also on the same site tonight... Thanks for having enriched the collection. Do you have an idea what would be the missing EF-38C? An egg-Droop?

I am proud to contribute to your gallery! maybe i could try to build some of the variants one day.

An egg-Droop would be beautiful, but it is a bit beyond my basic modelling skills : making the nose-bubble wouldn't be easy ...
(or maybe it can be done in painting, the way you do?)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 09, 2013, 03:42:00 AM
Quote from: Tophe on February 06, 2013, 08:48:01 PM
PS. Ericr: your egg-float-Lightning is featured at the end of my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit Thanks again!
Quote from: ericr on February 08, 2013, 12:14:04 AM
I am proud to contribute to your gallery! maybe i could try to build some of the variants one day.
An egg-Droop would be beautiful, but it is a bit beyond my basic modelling skills : making the nose-bubble wouldn't be easy ...
(or maybe it can be done in painting, the way you do?)
As a drawing, it is even more easy: I have added it at the end of my site. Thanks!
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 10, 2013, 07:52:25 PM
Far from my crazy what-if delirium, a serious Airtruk could of course be built with this nice kit. See http://renax-sharkit.blogspot.fr/2012/10/airtruk-au-72-le-montage-fini-par-phil.html . Or a Mad Max half-serious sci-fi version, see http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptationsmovie/madmax/pl_12_airtruk.html .
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 11, 2013, 04:21:58 AM
They can't be serious Tophe, they're symmetrical for a start!  ;D
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: ericr on February 12, 2013, 09:36:37 AM
Quote from: Tophe on February 09, 2013, 03:42:00 AM
As a drawing, it is even more easy: I have added it at the end of my site. Thanks!

Actually I still have a few more variants ...

what about this one? (a ceramic, found on ebay ...)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy435%2Fericr63%2Fhyd%2Fp38-ceramique-s_zps0229285a.jpg&hash=ebb8bd33411b36d28acc97f146da774a598c8e7d)

or that one, the "nearly normal" floatplane, in blue
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy435%2Fericr63%2Fhyd%2Fp38-s_zps40955c1b.jpg&hash=68af420474052c44699154115a5c8404ac0d5832)

or this, a bit more peculiar, which I made with the remnants of the triple p-38 : I must say I like it a lot, it looks like a ballet dancer, a "ballerine", on its single leg ...
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy435%2Fericr63%2Fhyd%2FP3030072s_zps63122a3d.jpg&hash=e70587343f72145f43afd9871d2997eba3e89bfe)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy435%2Fericr63%2Fhyd%2FP3030076s_zps39b2686c.jpg&hash=9c8b94ac40d6e8d57f3a2ddcc6a2513b28d9d59c)

(in case you wonder : it is super-glued to its base, which a black-painted top of a pot of jam)
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 12, 2013, 10:34:18 AM
Miraculous additions, thanks! I will try drawing the 2 missing ones in my collection. :cheers:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: NARSES2 on February 13, 2013, 07:39:40 AM
The Ballerina is superb, reminds me of some of the Italian designed racers like Colani
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Tophe on February 13, 2013, 10:49:24 AM
Quote from: Tophe on February 12, 2013, 10:34:18 AM
I will try drawing the 2 missing ones in my collection. :cheers:
Done at http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit . Thanks again! :thumbsup: :bow:
Title: Re: PL-123 TrukAir
Post by: Captain Canada on February 13, 2013, 07:07:15 PM
Like that Ballerine too....very neat !

:drink: