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Title: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: Mike Wren on November 23, 2012, 01:32:04 AM
aluded to in another post is this little project... so, in 1946 half track are obsolete and you need to move your troops round the battlefield with better protection. And, you've got loads of Shermans lying about after being replaced by M26 Pershings. So the Shermans get rebuilt with the engines moved forwars and a big box on the back. Obviously this hull can then be used as an ambulance, mortar carrier etc...

Base kit is a Dragon M4A3 HVSS, the one in the background is a card model test I did using a dragon pre-built. I have been thinking of doing an earlier variant based on VVSS tracks, and widening the rear hull 'box' on this later one out to the width of the HVSS track guards to make more internal space.

Finally I'm hoping to cast them in resin so I can produce a few variations, plus lend-lease Allied ones etc...

The pics aren't great as they were taken in a rush as the flash has washed out the plastic card as usual  :banghead:   :tank:

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Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: NARSES2 on November 23, 2012, 08:03:00 AM
You can see this soldiering on in many forms with some armies through to the present day  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: Mike Wren on November 23, 2012, 08:14:43 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on November 23, 2012, 08:03:00 AM
You can see this soldiering on in many forms with some armies through to the present day  :thumbsup:

yeah, I did basically nick the idea off the Israelis...
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: chrisonord on November 25, 2012, 08:08:16 AM
This looks interesting Mike, I will be watching how you go about this one as I have a few ideas for some converted soviet stuff I would like to do for my Cartel armour builds. It would be easier I dare say to scratch build something like this than build one of ACE's BMP-1 APC's :rolleyes:
Cheers
Chris.
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: Mike Wren on November 27, 2012, 03:26:10 AM
Quote from: chrisonord on November 25, 2012, 08:08:16 AM
It would be easier I dare say to scratch build something like this than build one of ACE's BMP-1 APC's :rolleyes:

;D I dare say it would!
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: Army of One on December 03, 2012, 12:09:41 PM
Will it get weapons on top....?? Maybe a prototype one man turret with a 20/30mm aircraft cannon......??
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: Mike Wren on December 05, 2012, 01:23:51 AM
Quote from: Army of One on December 03, 2012, 12:09:41 PM
Will it get weapons on top....?? Maybe a prototype one man turret with a 20/30mm aircraft cannon......??

I'm planning on a standard 50 cal for the early version, with the later one getting the T122 gun mount cupola with twin external 30 or 50 cals, but I was thinking of having an early tank destroyer version with twin bazookas too...  ;D
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: NARSES2 on December 05, 2012, 07:36:19 AM
Or recoiless rifles ?
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: Cliffy B on December 05, 2012, 07:43:14 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 05, 2012, 07:36:19 AM
Or recoiless rifles ?

ONTOS!  :mellow:
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: Rheged on December 05, 2012, 08:28:20 AM
Quote from: Cliffy B on December 05, 2012, 07:43:14 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 05, 2012, 07:36:19 AM
Or recoiless rifles ?

ONTOS!  :mellow:

To a classical Greek user, ONTOS  translates as "REVOLTING THING"
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: NARSES2 on December 06, 2012, 07:55:44 AM
Quote from: Rheged on December 05, 2012, 08:28:20 AM
Quote from: Cliffy B on December 05, 2012, 07:43:14 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 05, 2012, 07:36:19 AM
Or recoiless rifles ?

ONTOS!  :mellow:

To a classical Greek user, ONTOS  translates as "REVOLTING THING"

You learn something new every day  :thumbsup:

Always liked the Ontos - have fond memories of the old Revell 1/48th scale kit. Had a good Boxing day with that one
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: rickshaw on December 09, 2012, 11:54:59 PM
Quote from: Rheged on December 05, 2012, 08:28:20 AM
Quote from: Cliffy B on December 05, 2012, 07:43:14 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 05, 2012, 07:36:19 AM
Or recoiless rifles ?

ONTOS!  :mellow:

To a classical Greek user, ONTOS  translates as "REVOLTING THING"

Interesting.  I'd always seen it translated as simply "thing".   "Revolting thing" seems just so much more apt for the M-50.  ;D
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: Rheged on December 10, 2012, 02:05:15 AM
Quote from: rickshaw on December 09, 2012, 11:54:59 PM
Quote from: Rheged on December 05, 2012, 08:28:20 AM
Quote from: Cliffy B on December 05, 2012, 07:43:14 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 05, 2012, 07:36:19 AM
Or recoiless rifles ?

ONTOS!  :mellow:

To a classical Greek user, ONTOS  translates as "REVOLTING THING"

Interesting.  I'd always seen it translated as simply "thing".   "Revolting thing" seems just so much more apt for the M-50.  ;D

The Greeks in classical times were very keen on defining things, so to have a word meaning simply "THAT THING"  means (according to my classics master 46 years ago)  that they chose not to define it.....therefore, by implication,  the item  under discussion was too revolting to require a special word.  Hence, REVOLTING THING.

Looking at the M-50, I'd agree with you that they probably had a point!!
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: dekybomber on December 10, 2012, 09:59:02 AM
great idea   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: Captain Canada on February 01, 2013, 10:16:54 AM
Sorry I almost missed this one....awesome ! I need to gran myself some little 72nd scale Shermans. What a machine. But I like the look of the square back better than the angled version, just looks more utilitarian to me.

:wub:
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: Mike Wren on February 23, 2013, 07:52:49 AM
Quote from: Captain Canada on February 01, 2013, 10:16:54 AM
But I like the look of the square back better than the angled version, just looks more utilitarian to me.

I'm going to do an early version (with VVSS suspension) with the squared off back end, more of a wartime conversion/prototype, this later one with HVSS will become the standard production version. That is should I ever get time to do it...
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: Captain Canada on February 23, 2013, 08:16:45 AM
Quote from: Mike Wren on February 23, 2013, 07:52:49 AM
That is should I ever get time to do it...

I hear you on that one Brother !

Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: kerick on February 23, 2013, 12:39:17 PM
You could do numerous versions using older low time or rebuilt hulls from earlier model Shermans. The Canadiens used the hulls from poorly armed RAM tanks for APCs during WW2. That was just a removal of the turret and the troops had to go over the side but it beat walking.
Title: Re: Yank '46 Sherman APC
Post by: Mondria on February 25, 2013, 04:14:53 AM
really like the idea, had one like it myself but on a cast hull with welded rear and vvss, just a simple gun pit with .50 nothing fancy.
looking forward to see the rest of your build