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Title: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: pyro-manic on April 11, 2012, 04:31:22 PM
Early days yet, but......



;D  :wacko: :party:

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7074%2F6923048426_431e810e35_b.jpg&hash=c83b7077cff853fbe91886ffc721f1d7b3bce1f9) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pyro-manic/6923048426/)
De Havilland Fireball (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pyro-manic/6923048426/) by pyro-manic (http://www.flickr.com/people/pyro-manic/), on Flickr
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: The Rat on April 11, 2012, 06:34:51 PM
Ooooh, me likey!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: Daryl J. on April 11, 2012, 07:21:54 PM
That is so right on.   :bow:
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: gofy on April 11, 2012, 07:59:51 PM
Which kits (scale, manufacturer etc) :unsure:

I LOOOOOOOOVE this build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wub: :wub:
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: Captain Canada on April 11, 2012, 08:48:49 PM
Imagine....Pyro building a Fireball  :thumbsup:

That thing does look right....looking forward to seeing where you take it.

:cheers:
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: The Wooksta! on April 12, 2012, 04:14:25 AM
NIce, although I'd use leading edge radiators to sort out the wings from where the nacelles were.  In addition, I'd move the cockpit about a cm further forward.  Pilot view over the nose would be horrendous.
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: TallEng on April 12, 2012, 04:30:09 AM
WOW! That looks promising, Lets see now DH88 Comet, and a Merlin up front, long pointy wings,
= High Altitude, or record breaking long range flight? who knows....
Can't wait to see what happens next :thumbsup:

(looks like the holes for the engine nacelles will make mighty fine radiator inlets, And cockpits on Merlin engined Aircraft are always too far back! ;D)

Regards
Keith(wishing he'd thought of 'that', what ever 'that' will be)
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: The Wooksta! on April 12, 2012, 04:37:39 AM
I've a Novo one that I was planning on doing as a PR machine at some stage.  Although on reflection, the Frog one was always the better kit, so it may be better to use an Airfix one and keep the nice new decals for the Novo kit.
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: Vulcan7 on April 12, 2012, 08:43:14 AM
Great Idea, looking good  :tornado: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: JayBee on April 12, 2012, 09:20:25 AM
Now this I am realy looking forward to.
Do not keep us waiting too long Alun.

Jim
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 12, 2012, 12:11:27 PM
We've seen a few single engined aircraft whiffed into twins before now, but I don't think we've seen the opposite.

Radical, and good thinking. Looking forward to the final result.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: pyro-manic on April 13, 2012, 01:28:23 PM
Thanks, everyone - I will try not to disappoint! The nacelle "stumps" will indeed be turned into radiators, and the over-the-nose view will hopefully not be too bad, as the new landing gear will be a bit shorter so it's "stance" will not be so nose-high.
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: The Wooksta! on April 13, 2012, 02:20:47 PM
Your u/c stance and height is dictated by the prop arc - when the tail liftson take off, you don't want to be pecking the ground. Witness the number of Seafires written off by doing just that on landing and take off.
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: pyro-manic on April 13, 2012, 02:48:46 PM
Yep. But though the Spit prop is much bigger, it's mounted higher up, so there's a tiny bit more clearance compared to the original props. Means the u/c can be a tiny bit shorter. It's not a huge amount, but it will help.

And now that I think about it, I have one of the undersized props from the new Airfix Hurricane II around somewhere - I might try that and see how it looks, to give me a bit more leeway...
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: kitbasher on November 12, 2012, 01:19:07 PM
Pics of my dH Dolphin as seen at Telford to follow.  A Merlin Comet can be done, chaps.
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: Dizzyfugu on November 13, 2012, 12:45:10 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 12, 2012, 12:11:27 PM
We've seen a few single engined aircraft whiffed into twins before now, but I don't think we've seen the opposite.

Radical, and good thinking. Looking forward to the final result.  :thumbsup:

Very elegant, and inspiring!
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: kitbasher on November 13, 2012, 09:49:27 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on November 12, 2012, 01:19:07 PM
Pics of my dH Dolphin as seen at Telford to follow.  A Merlin Comet can be done, chaps.

And here it is:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi137.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq201%2Faircav14%2FSMW2012%2520Telford%2FPicture265.jpg&hash=cbd08e2dfff0a3576dfb48863cb18e3e29e46cee)
('borrowed' pic courtesy of Aircav's SMW collection, my own thread to come this week)
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: deathjester on November 13, 2012, 04:02:35 PM
That's BEAUTIFUL!!!  Does look very 'Supermarine-ish' though...
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: kitbasher on November 14, 2012, 03:01:21 AM
Quote from: deathjester on November 13, 2012, 04:02:35 PM
That's BEAUTIFUL!!!  Does look very 'Supermarine-ish' though...

One or two others said that at Telford.  I think it must be the colour scheme - 'borrowed' off the S.6 and S.6B.  Had it been all red, black or green - classic Coment finishes - I wonder whether people would say 'Supermarine-ish'?
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 14, 2012, 04:51:47 AM
Almost all the Schneider Trophy racers of the late 30s looked like that though.

It was the optimum engineering solution to the same problem, a BIG engine at the front driving a very coarse pitch propeller, a very slim fuselage with the very minimum of space (and forward view.....) for the pilot, the smallest possible wings to keep it up at 400 mph plus and two floats large enough to stop it siinking, but only just.

If the MC-72 had been painted blue and sliver it might have looked 'Supermarine-ish' too.

Hm, now there's an idea. I have the ruddy AWFUL Delta kit of the MC-72 up in The Loft somewhere............  ;)
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: NARSES2 on November 14, 2012, 07:22:39 AM
Quote from: deathjester on November 13, 2012, 04:02:35 PM
That's BEAUTIFUL!!!  Does look very 'Supermarine-ish' though...

It is a looker but strangely my first reaction wasn't "Supermarine". I thought "ah a single engined Comet"
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: Tophe on November 14, 2012, 09:40:03 AM
Congratulations to both Kitbasher and pyro-manic :thumbsup:
Title: Re: De Havilland Fireball
Post by: steelpillow on November 20, 2021, 03:09:56 AM
Another Merlin-engined Comet, independently re-invented and with backstory etc. at https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=39598

(https://uc3142ed82b254bfa1965be6f32f.dl.dropboxusercontent.com/cd/0/get/BaWqcOeo5bZEbZmzoF5DjwXnGW0zK9fxiPbPXY3tW6OKAKNpyNV1iyUQc2pYXYgN9JBBtQMpNceXjsc5HtJ3hLlSjYKkIBle4JyWRDefHEeppedowBQTPuqfztdYB_QJW_FC5vcuIYiIMgArpE4rcxvL/file?dl=1#)