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Picture Post => Current and Finished Projects => Aircraft => Topic started by: RussC on September 22, 2011, 02:16:47 PM

Title: Kalinin 12
Post by: RussC on September 22, 2011, 02:16:47 PM
I might need a ruling on this one- technically it was built so might not be a full-whiff, but it was also supposedly not flown.
 
Although, I did use a different 3 view with a partial horizontal tail from Yefin Gordons' Russian A/C encyclopedia for the build....and I painted and marked as a Chinese machine, early PLAAF when using odd US, Japanese and Russian leftovers.
 
The Kalinin 12, wood model with card wings.
 
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.deviantart.com%2Fdownload%2F262686099%2Fkalinin_12_by_russc1-d4ce9w3.jpg&hash=a0bf54bd74551d742bbcde48f64143027eb436e6)
 
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.deviantart.com%2Fdownload%2F262686286%2Fkal_12_picture_2_by_russc1-d4cea1a.jpg&hash=1764fea2013f6b85733b1969734717953a2e9d8e)
 
Title: Re: Kalinin 12
Post by: AXU on September 22, 2011, 02:25:29 PM
Excellent work, looks very very good :thumbsup:
Probably look even better with three-blade propeller

Alex
Title: Grushin?
Post by: sequoiaranger on September 22, 2011, 03:32:04 PM
Looks like some of the short-tailed designs by Pyotor Grushin (below), only expanded to a twin.

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi681.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv173%2Fsequoiaranger%2FGrushinTandem.jpg&hash=9f6e559b6de6c02b220825f31c0c28d915380aaa)

Nothing was too eccentric to the Soviets if it was thought they could milk some prestige out of it.

Title: Re: Kalinin 12
Post by: arkon on September 22, 2011, 04:20:05 PM
nice plane! your card-fu is great! how many other of your builds use card?
Title: Re: Kalinin 12
Post by: Green Dragon on September 22, 2011, 05:45:11 PM
Looks excellent Russ, fuselage reminds me of a VERY Short Stirling!

Paul Harrison
Title: Re: Kalinin 12
Post by: jcf on September 22, 2011, 06:08:28 PM
According to Soviet X-Planes by Gordon & Gunston, the K-12 was built and flown, albeit without the horizontal
tail (as you have modelled) of the original design.
For the 1937 Air Day parade it appeared painted as the 'Firebird'.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1000aircraftphotos.com%2FContributions%2FBraas%2F6813L.jpg&hash=0f932f335f58d0b0aea5bd9824232d0de2a74c50)

Title: Re: Kalinin 12
Post by: Old Wombat on September 22, 2011, 07:03:33 PM
What impresses me is that someone had the balls to fly it! :o
Title: Re: Kalinin 12
Post by: RussC on September 23, 2011, 03:59:07 AM
Quote from: arkon on September 22, 2011, 04:20:05 PM
nice plane! your card-fu is great! how many other of your builds use card?

  Probably half of them are card, but few are 100 percent. I tend to use paper for airfoils and wood parts for complex curves. I have made entire planes with paper but never was satisfied with fuselages. Worked alright for tubular cross sections i.e. Mig 21, Su-7, Mosquito and such but complicated ones like a PBY, SR-71 or a really curved wing like a Concorde or a Victor would be really hard.

Title: Re: Kalinin 12
Post by: RussC on September 23, 2011, 04:06:12 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 22, 2011, 07:03:33 PM
What impresses me is that someone had the balls to fly it! :o

  Maybe the NKVD inspired them.  :-\
 
 
Title: Re: Kalinin 12
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 23, 2011, 04:08:36 AM
Russ, I'm amazed you can do ANYTHING with card, let alone stuff as magnificent as yours!

I tried card models, the pre-printed ones, many years ago, and ended up with my fingers as integral parts of the assembly more often than not. I'll stick with styrene and look on your products with considerable astonshment at your achievements.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kalinin 12
Post by: Rheged on September 23, 2011, 04:22:52 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 23, 2011, 04:08:36 AM
Russ, I'm amazed you can do ANYTHING with card, let alone stuff as magnificent as yours!

I tried card models, the pre-printed ones, many years ago, and ended up with my fingers as integral parts of the assembly more often than not. I'll stick with styrene and look on your products with considerable astonshment at your achievements.  :thumbsup:
.

I would like to be associated with the honourable gentleman's comments.  I can't do card either.
Title: Re: Kalinin 12
Post by: Stargazer on September 23, 2011, 04:24:20 AM
All the Kalinin and Grushin stuff in this page inspired a new whif: the Grushin DSh Double-Tandem. Enjoy!

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstargazer2006.online.fr%2Fbonus%2Fgrushin-dsh.jpg&hash=613df8185ce500138e1eafbdbc8e9f815a9f6e71)
Title: Re: Kalinin 12
Post by: RussC on September 23, 2011, 04:41:49 AM
Libellulanik ! ;D
 
Actually, it looks like it would be a really hot racer of the period.
Title: Re: Kalinin 12
Post by: Doc Yo on September 23, 2011, 07:38:04 AM
 Staggeringly cool!