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Title: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: RotorheadTX on September 18, 2011, 06:30:27 PM
I just saw a blurb on Cybermodeler that Revell is going to re-issue the old Renwal Atomic Cannon.
I know it leaves some things to be desired, but talk about potential.....

Read it here: http://www.cybermodeler.com/news/revell.shtml
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: Scooterman on September 18, 2011, 08:58:19 PM
If it's not too much $$$, bash with a SCUD launcher for a mobile Babylon Gun...........
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: jcf on September 18, 2011, 11:05:58 PM
Quote from: Scooterman on September 18, 2011, 08:58:19 PM
If it's not too much $$$, bash with a SCUD launcher for a mobile Babylon Gun...........

Something like this?
;D
Gerry Bull Special from the '08 One-Week build.

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,20782.0.html

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi729.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww291%2Fjoncarrfarrelly%2FGERRY_BULL_SPECIAL_06.jpg&hash=27ad83c94025c2c9a95356d860a643d7f0fcb38e)

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi729.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww291%2Fjoncarrfarrelly%2FGERRY_BULL_SPECIAL_07.jpg&hash=14a1790961ca10b2a0b2d019d121572d8d2ae840)
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 18, 2011, 11:56:16 PM
They could do well with re-issuing the entire Renwall range!

I built the Ontos umpteen years ago, and I think that's already been re-released, but the one I always wanted to make was the big 6" (?) SP gun with the open rear compartment. The 'Invisble Glue' idea was well before its time, and never has been repeated by any one else AFAIK.
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: NARSES2 on September 19, 2011, 07:22:52 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 18, 2011, 11:56:16 PM
They could do well with re-issuing the entire Renwall range!

I built the Ontos umpteen years ago,

I found that underneath the Christmas tree one year and had it built by tea time. Fond memories
Title: "Big Shot"
Post by: sequoiaranger on September 19, 2011, 07:54:59 AM
>the one I always wanted to make was the big 6" (?) SP gun with the open rear compartment. <

Ah, yes, I remember "Big Shot". It was an 8" SP Howitzer.

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi681.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv173%2Fsequoiaranger%2FRenwalBigShot.jpg&hash=85e9d59b13b0814bdd59183f521c7a31d229d413)

I built almost the whole Renwal line, but the "Terracruzer" was too expensive (and huge). Now, was it Renwal that made the "Battling Betsy"--very large motorized tank model whose cannon actually fired projectiles as the turret swung back and forth? You had to build ALL the requisite machinery, gears, gun mechanisms, etc.?
Title: Re: "Big Shot"
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 19, 2011, 01:28:57 PM
Quote from: sequoiaranger on September 19, 2011, 07:54:59 AM
>the one I always wanted to make was the big 6" (?) SP gun with the open rear compartment. <

Ah, yes, I remember "Big Shot". It was an 8" SP Howitzer.

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi681.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv173%2Fsequoiaranger%2FRenwalBigShot.jpg&hash=85e9d59b13b0814bdd59183f521c7a31d229d413)

YES! That's the one!  :thumbsup:

Now I REALLY wish they'd re-pop that one, now that I've seen the box lid again, thanks very much.  :cheers:
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: pyro-manic on September 19, 2011, 01:51:52 PM
You know, I could swear I've seen that boxtop in a model shop recently. Maybe it has been reissued, and it's been missed?
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: jcf on September 19, 2011, 02:50:43 PM
Quote from: pyro-manic on September 19, 2011, 01:51:52 PM
You know, I could swear I've seen that boxtop in a model shop recently. Maybe it has been reissued, and it's been missed?

Yep, reissued earlier this year:
http://www.revell.com/model-kits/military/85-7855.html
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: pyro-manic on September 19, 2011, 02:59:06 PM
There we are then. :)
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 19, 2011, 03:02:22 PM
Doesn't seem to have crossed the Atlantic sadly, no mention of it on Big H's list. There's one on ebay, but the postage charges are almost the same as the Buy Now price, around £17.00!
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: pyro-manic on September 19, 2011, 03:46:47 PM
I think it must have been Plastic Pastimes where I saw it - perhaps give them a bell and ask? The other possibility is Setchfields, also in Poole.
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: kitnut617 on September 19, 2011, 05:57:02 PM
Quote from: pyro-manic on September 19, 2011, 03:46:47 PM
The other possibility is Setchfields, also in Poole.

Ahh! Setchfields --- my old hobby shop, memories there.  Plastic Pastimes was after I left for Canada though --
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: Scooterman on September 19, 2011, 07:54:17 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on September 18, 2011, 11:05:58 PM
Something like this?
;D
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi729.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww291%2Fjoncarrfarrelly%2FGERRY_BULL_SPECIAL_06.jpg&hash=27ad83c94025c2c9a95356d860a643d7f0fcb38e)

Exactly.  Thank you!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 19, 2011, 11:45:40 PM
Quote from: pyro-manic on September 19, 2011, 03:46:47 PM
I think it must have been Plastic Pastimes where I saw it - perhaps give them a bell and ask? The other possibility is Setchfields, also in Poole.

I'll do that, thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: NARSES2 on September 20, 2011, 01:22:05 AM
Fantastic box art on that Renwall kit
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: rickshaw on September 20, 2011, 02:14:50 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 20, 2011, 01:22:05 AM
Fantastic box art on that Renwall kit

They obviously knew their market. ;D
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 20, 2011, 02:51:30 AM
Quote from: rickshaw on September 20, 2011, 02:14:50 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 20, 2011, 01:22:05 AM
Fantastic box art on that Renwall kit

They obviously knew their market. ;D

It worked on me alright!  ;D
Title: Renwal Box Art
Post by: sequoiaranger on September 20, 2011, 08:31:46 AM
>Fantastic box art on that Renwall kit<

I agree. I liked their clever idea of using a partial "blueprint" base and a pair of dividers within the otherwise realistic scene to "authenticate" the aspect of a true SCALE model of the original.

If you haven't seen it, there is a good article in the US IPMS Journal recently about a box-art artist that worked for Aurora and Airfix, along with some examples. For me, anyway, an engaging box art got my blood stirring to buy/build the contents--how about you? On the other hand,  poorly-rendered box art (some Eastern Bloc or Japanese kits I remember) that was out-of-proportion or crude was not enticing at all. I had to REALLY want the subject to put up with the crummy box art. All part of the art of "marketing".
Title: Re: Renwal Box Art
Post by: NARSES2 on September 21, 2011, 01:31:26 AM
Quote from: sequoiaranger on September 20, 2011, 08:31:46 AM
For me, anyway, an engaging box art got my blood stirring to buy/build the contents--how about you? On the other hand,  poorly-rendered box art (some Eastern Bloc or Japanese kits I remember) that was out-of-proportion or crude was not enticing at all. I had to REALLY want the subject to put up with the crummy box art. All part of the art of "marketing".

Absolutely agree. I'm a sucker for decent box art. The ones I dislike the most are those Airfix boxes back in the 80's ? When they had a picture of the finished kit on the box or the horrible "Humbrol" era boxes. The current style are among my favs  :thumbsup: Very "Roy Cross" like
Title: Re: Renwal Box Art
Post by: Old Wombat on September 21, 2011, 03:11:47 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 21, 2011, 01:31:26 AM
Quote from: sequoiaranger on September 20, 2011, 08:31:46 AM
For me, anyway, an engaging box art got my blood stirring to buy/build the contents--how about you? On the other hand,  poorly-rendered box art (some Eastern Bloc or Japanese kits I remember) that was out-of-proportion or crude was not enticing at all. I had to REALLY want the subject to put up with the crummy box art. All part of the art of "marketing".

Absolutely agree. I'm a sucker for decent box art. The ones I dislike the most are those Airfix boxes back in the 80's ? When they had a picture of the finished kit on the box or the horrible "Humbrol" era boxes. The current style are among my favs  :thumbsup: Very "Roy Cross" like

Same here. I think it comes down to the psychology of "If they take the effort to employ a decent artist for the box art, they're more likely to have taken the effort to produce a decent product."

It may or may not be fact but it's how the brain perceives it.
Title: Re: US Army Atomic Cannon
Post by: sagallacci on October 16, 2011, 10:02:01 PM
I didn't realize this thread was here so I started one under weapon systems about getting one of the kits and building it as "Hot Dog" the gun that managed four live shots during the '62 war that brought about the reunification of Germany in '63. I've also worked up the "history" of the original WWII German version of the gun (as we all know, EVERYTHING was designed by them first) with modified Tiger IIs as transports and a K5e type gun fitted.
There were actually four guns which got shots off during the '62 war, "Hot Dog" was the famous one, with four shots, and survived to wear "kill" rings on the muzzle.
"Toby" (actually "Toby" was the front transporter's name, "Toby Too" was the rear vehicle, and "Toby's Tuba" was the gun's name) Got two shots off then was self-destructed by the crew to prevent capture.
"Dorothy" (front transporter, gun "The Wicked Witch", "Toto" the rear transporter) got only one shot off before being put out of action due to counter-battery fire.
"Hoppity" One shot off before the cease fire, hyped as the last shot of the action.
All had simple stenciled lettering on the driver's door and/or sleeve section of the gun in white. Hot Dog get increasingly elaborate embellishments over the years, including stylized lettering and a large "Red Hot Reds" on the gun sleeve and even some red, white, and blue trim on it for a time. The immediate post action markings were just the four red bands on the muzzle and "Red Hot Reds" on the right side door of the rear transporter.