First new project for 2011.
Why not modernize the venerable E.E./BAC LIGHTNING and let him face the threats of the years 2000???
This is the excuse to let me add at the Lightning some parts stolen from the Tornado.
This is the usual my preparatory drawing:
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Take it only as an idea, the finished model could be a little different, however this is the concept.
The first change of mind was replace the Tornado IDS radome with the more modern Tornado ADV's nose.
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Dumb Question: Where is the Air Intake, or am I missing it??
Other than that, I love the idea.
bobbo
Rocket power ! :mellow:
Quote from: bobbo on March 09, 2011, 01:40:37 PM
Dumb Question: Where is the Air Intake, or am I missing it??
Other than that, I love the idea.
bobbo
Honestly, in the drawing there is NOT air intake, I forgot it....
The my plan is of to do an air intake as in the F-8 CRUSADER.
If this will be not possible, I have a "B" plan in mind but hope of to be able to do the F-8 intake.
So maybe something like this?
Might be a bit tight for intake air, but don't let reality get in the way of a cool idea :thumbsup:.
Regards,
Greg
Quote from: GTX on March 10, 2011, 12:21:22 AM
So maybe something like this?
Might be a bit tight for intake air, but don't let reality get in the way of a cool idea :thumbsup:.
Regards,
Greg
EXACTLY, this is a possible solution as I have in mind.
Thank You for the drawing.
Another idea might be to use side intakes either like the Rafale or even like the Tu-98:
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regards,
Greg
My first contribution (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,279.60.html) was a chin intake on the Lightning P.8:
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And one of my first contributions was a three-engined Lightning with a chin intake (bigger radome moved to top of existing intake) for the lower engine and F-106-style shoulder intakes for the top two engines:
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This layout could be adapted to a normal twin-engined Lightning too: feel free to nick it if you wish. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Weaver on March 10, 2011, 02:47:40 AM
And one of my first contributions was a three-engined Lightning with a chin intake (bigger radome moved to top of existing intake) for the lower engine and F-106-style shoulder intakes for the top two engines:
AND two seats in tandem and twin fins?
I
DO like that, more than a little. Now where are thos old Frog Lightnings I've got hidden away....?
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 10, 2011, 02:50:07 AM
Quote from: Weaver on March 10, 2011, 02:47:40 AM
And one of my first contributions was a three-engined Lightning with a chin intake (bigger radome moved to top of existing intake) for the lower engine and F-106-style shoulder intakes for the top two engines:
AND two seats in tandem and twin fins?
I DO like that, more than a little. Now where are thos old Frog Lightnings I've got hidden away....?
AND a tailless delta wing..... :wacko: (well kinda: aerodynamics about like the X-32 JSF)
I'm collecting the bits for one too. Got various Lightnings and F-104s (for the upper intakes) and the canopy will be Javelin T.3. Not sure about the wing: TSR.2 is ideal but.... :o Another idea is to use a phantom wing: mounted on the sloping sides of the fuselage, the inner portion would slope downwards and the outer portion would be straight...
The fusealge mod is NOT straight forward though: you can't just splice a plate in between the top edges of it, rather you have to rotate the halves around the axis of the lower engine (which means taking a bit
off the bottom) then adding partial opposite halves to the inside of the top edges.
This just keeps getting better and better!!!
bobbo
Fixed wing or swing-wing?
Quote from: McColm on March 10, 2011, 06:19:07 AM
Fixed wing or swing-wing?
Swing Wings? I don't like too much this solution.
I'm considering of to use the originals wings but with some variations.
Quote from: G.Marcat on March 10, 2011, 06:41:18 AM
Quote from: McColm on March 10, 2011, 06:19:07 AM
Fixed wing or swing-wing?
Swing Wings? I don't like too much this solution.
I'm considering of to use the originals wings but with some variations.
BAC looked at a swing wing design for the Navy, so it's not beyond the realms of possibility
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/lightning/history.php
(halfway down the page)
I did a Lightning F7 about 15 years ago. Updated the radar to Sea Harrier Blue Fox and the engines to RB199s. Canopy was stripped of it's heavy framing, with a wrap around windscreen. Sidewinder and Skyflash missiles.
Really fancy doing it again!
I'm liking the ideas being thrown around here! :thumbsup:
I especially like the wide F-86D type intake idea but more-so the chin & shoulder intakes of Weaver's design but keeping the rest more traditionally BAC Lightning...
...or, possibly that but with a high-mounted wing, so that the shoulder intakes are under the wing?
In the last week done something to bring forward the Lightning 2K.
This is the base kit:
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Using the old ESCI TORNADO 1/48 as donor:
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I had took from it the VERTICAL TAIL ASSEMBLY:
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After to have glued the two halves together I cut and sand the ECM blisters and the front air intake to "CLEAN" the shape of the tail.
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The LIGHTNING's wheels on the main undercarriage are a little too small frontal section... A modern version of the Lightning must have a little more big tires.
Taken the Airfix half wheels and glued on a piece of plasticard of around 1,5 millimeters:
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As the glue went dry I raw cut the shape of the wheels from the plasticard:
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Carefully sanded the plasticard at wheel level and then glued together the two modified half wheels with the original half wheels.
This has given to me a little more wide tire:
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More in the next days.
Would a modern Lightning not need RWR?
And I hate to ask, but where do you plan on putting those wheels?
Quote from: Devilfish on March 17, 2011, 02:17:45 AM
Would a modern Lightning not need RWR?
And I hate to ask, but where do you plan on putting those wheels?
The plan is of to add a bulge on the top of the wing.
About the RWR: I could to add something later, but different from the shape of the Tornado's RWR.
Fair enough. Was just a bit worried when I saw those "Carlos Fandango" superwide wheels and the very thin wing...
Quote from: Devilfish on March 17, 2011, 05:25:59 AM
Fair enough. Was just a bit worried when I saw those "Carlos Fandango" superwide wheels and the very thin wing...
The idea for the wing fairing is copied from the fairing you see on the PHANTOM's wing root (F-4C/D/E).
I think to add at the top of the wing a drop shaped fairing made with a 1.5/2 millimetres plasticard.
MTV please pimp my Lightning!
Airfix are bringing out their new retooled 1/48 Lightning as well as the tornado F3 in 1/72.
this is a fast update of the things done the last seven days:
The enlarged wheels:
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And some internal parts painted:
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Looking good. Beefing up the wheels was a good idea.
:cheers:
Brilliant! :thumbsup:
Good stuff so far. I like the cleaned-up Tonka fin - that will look very good on the Frightning. :thumbsup:
Hello, I'm proceeding slowly but however I'm bringing forward the Lightning 2000 everyday.
The last two days I have taken the decision of which shape to give at wings.
Delta? Variable Geometry? What?
Finally, this is the chosen scheme:
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As you can see it's a simple design. The originals wings have been moved few meters/feets more toward the center of the fuselage!!! Coupled with the shape of the horizontal tailplanes this change radically the view from above.
New work done:
Completed the cockpit tub and the modified instrument panel, painted the MB Mk10 resin seat, painting the wheels and other undercarriages parts:
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Now it's time to modify the exhaust nozzle's zone.
Removed the shaped finger between the two exhaust's barrells:
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Modified the two exhausts from the Italeri's Tornado and taken away the last part from the nozzle, so typical of the RB-199 engines.
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And this is the modified exhaust:
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The impression is that the Lightning now have installed the Tornados RB-199 engines!!!
So that's how it's done, thanks.
:thumbsup:
Today Done this:
removed the positive moulded slot for the wings on both sides of the half fuselages:
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Closed the slot with plasticard:
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Now the two half fuselages have been modified.
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It's time now to close the half fuselages and to begin the air intake/nose mods.
New steps done:
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and finally yesterday night assembled the tail and the ADV radome to the Lightning's fuselage. The "monster" now look in this way:
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Now I have to see how to do the air intake.
Looking good.
Looking tasty. :thumbsup:
from Lightning to SABRE (or G-91)
LIGHTning/SABRE = LIGHTSABER :party:
This time subject to modernization is the canopy:
from this...
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sanding away the central part:
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disaster?
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Thank to the Master Casters polishing sticks the problem is solved:
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A final bath in the Future solves any problem:
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Great work with the clear parts! This is coming together well :thumbsup:
^^^^
Absolutely agreed! :wub: :wub: :thumbsup:
Polishing sticks, another product to buy!!
I Loose a lot of time recently because I did a lot in the tune up of brand new computer purchased by me. So done very few.
This is the current situation:
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This is going great. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :cheers: :bow: :bow:
I really like this ;D Very dangerous looks :wacko:
Wow!!
That has a very Russian look about it at the moment
Gondor
Quote from: Gondor on May 23, 2011, 11:58:06 AM
That has a very Russian look about it at the moment
Gondor
Really... it look like a 50/60 Russian prototype. I don't like how it look now. On the other hand it look too much near to a F-86D SABRE.... I completely mishaped the upper part of the windshield- radome zone.
If the Lightning Airfix should be not so difficult to find and overpriced the my idea was to build another Lightning, to cut it's original front part and to throw away the Russian style nose at the purpose of to restore a more conventional LIGHTNINGish look.
:thumbsup:
Good news.. (Or at least I think this).
As said before the nose taken from the Tornado ADV applied to the my Lightning 2K was totally out of place. The my Lightning look like a Mig prototype.
This afternoon a surgical operation has been done: I have replaced the resin ADV nose with a more pleasantly shaped radome taken from a 1/48 Italeri's TORNADO IDS.
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Now the Lightning 2K like to me a little more.
The hard part now will be to level the edges of the new nose to the front fuselage but I have solved more of worst in the past.
I had to do the same thing with a past build. I cut a section out of the nose that looked like a thin wedge from the back of the cone to the point. Closed the top and bottom, a little putty and it worked quite well. Looking forward to more of your work. :)
After months of static in the past days I have sprayed a layer of Tamiya Primer in the zone where I did modifications.
As result I saw a lot of defects in the frontal zone where I did the more big number of works.
Today applied a lot of putty on the frontal zone to remedy all the spots and ridges.
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I hope of to tame all these imperfections very fastly because the model is arrived at a good point.
Impressive perseverance!
Quote from: John Howling Mouse on September 11, 2011, 11:21:37 AM
Impressive perseverance!
despite the my perseverance, "the Lightning 2k" has been going really slow...
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Ace! :thumbsup:
Certainly looks fast.
That thing has "Sukhoi" written all over it!
It really looks like some of the one offs they produced in the Su-7/9/11/17/20/22 lineage.
I keep getting an odd sense of P-40 every time I see that front quarter shot. :blink:
Weird, really. :-\
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 12, 2011, 09:42:32 AM
I keep getting an odd sense of P-40 every time I see that front quarter shot. :blink:
Weird, really. :-\
:lol: I know what you mean.
The last two days put the hands on the Lightning 2K.
In the beginning rescribed completely the front of the kit as all the lines has gone lost.
Today managed to solve the issue related to the front wheel bay.
This was the hole of the front wheel bay this morning:
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I have Super-glued a piece of plasticard in place:
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and then smoothed the zone:
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As usual, having done a mistake sanding the zone covered with putty, I have corrected this mistake applying a piece of ultra thin plasticard side to side:
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Now I will cut out in the plasticard the wheel bay slot as in the original LIGHTNING.
This is how appear the air intake modified from me:
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And this image show how appearn the rear fuselage looking from above now that I have glued two horizontal ailerons:
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Another pair of works and the my Lightning 2K will be ready for the paint.
Works on the front wheel bay PART 2:
Using 2 strips of Dymo tape and the Tamiya Panel Scriber:
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this is the final result:
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This image show the entire work done today:
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Love the look of this. Excellent work so far. :thumbsup: (even if it is slow and a right pain in the bum...! :lol:)
This is impressive building! :thumbsup: Very difficult I can tell
This afternoon done another step before of to paint the my kit. Sprayed on all the model a layer of Tamiya White Primer from the rattle can.
This is the current look of the my Lightning 2K:
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Pleasant... :thumbsup:
Wow! I really enjoy the mixture parts and how well they fit together. Very impressive!! ;D
nice work, it's a pity the over-under engine setup was such a maintenance nightmare When I worked at Rolls-Royce one of the jokes was that the design starting point for the tornado was a lightning with one wing cut off and turned through 90degrees to make that big fin ;D
Quote from: G.Marcat on November 03, 2011, 12:57:29 PM
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Wow! :bow: You can just about picture it climbing like hell to chase off some snoopin' Bear or Backfire! :bow:
Finally started to paint the Lightning.
Choosen a simple scheme, the same scheme sported from the last LIGHTNING in service.
The upper surfaces are in DARK SEA GRAY (from Gunze):
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Having loose a lot of time preparing the paint session I was able only to complete a little portion of the kit. Tomorrow will complete the work.
Starting to look Chinese to me. Love it no matter what!
Love the aggressive look :wacko:
Another little step forward today.
Applied the second (of three) color on the fuselage undersurface.
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The Lightning 2K is now painted at the 90%.
I took some images of the painted kit before of to ruin all the paintwork with advanced tecniques like postshading and other (usually the advanced teniques do not works well in the my hands)
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Paint looks nice :wub: very sharp. You can always just use a little pastel dust here and there, don't need to go to crazy with weathering if you don't want :cheers:
Quote from: Taiidantomcat on December 13, 2011, 02:07:18 PM
Paint looks nice :wub: very sharp. You can always just use a little pastel dust here and there, don't need to go to crazy with weathering if you don't want :cheers:
Done a upper surfaces weathering.
Sprayed the panel lines with same Gunze Dark Sea Gray color of the surface but added of a point of black:
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As usual the weathering is OVERDONE... Will try to reduce it a bit in some areas.
This is Whiffery at its finest. Truly stunning. :thumbsup:
Hello, If someone think I had left loose this project, the answer is NOT. ;D
The past year in the week from Christmas to New Year I have applied the decals on it.
Not all the decals, only the most important part of these contained of the huge sheet enclosed with the Airfix kit.
As I did apply the decals, I loose interest in the model, it's usual.
A pair of months ago a bottle of ALCLAD BRONZE has been gone broke,
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the colour has spreaded all over the work zone, some drops are fallen over the LIGHTNING.... So in the past week I have completed the repair of the droplets damages.
This is the Lightning 2K currrently:
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Yup we all lose interest with models over time, then like this we pick them up again. No idea of why but it happens :blink:
Anyway good to see this one back :thumbsup:
Very nice - I like the nose section very much. :thumbsup:
I'd just say that it looks a little tail-heavy, the wings look a bit (relatively) set far back, so that it could almost be a delta wing?
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on August 28, 2012, 02:36:13 AM
***I'd just say that it looks a little tail-heavy, the wings look a bit (relatively) set far back, so that it could almost be a delta wing?
It's a TRICKY DELTA.
I have set back the wings in the way them can be "in a false touch" with the horizontal elevators, if view from the perpendicular.
I thought that it was on purpose - but you never know...
Sometimes a whif turns out way different from waht one might have thought in the first place ;) Very pretty thing!
Looking good to me! If you could take a pic of the front quarter or so to show off the inlet/radome combo. Nice work. This will have some scratching their heads.
Quote from: NARSES2 on August 28, 2012, 02:00:09 AM
Yup we all lose interest with models over time, then like this we pick them up again. No idea of why but it happens :blink:
I have actually 4/5 models at a good stage of completion but stopped.
For this reason I spent two years on almost every my model because of loss of interest on the project.
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on August 28, 2012, 06:43:43 AM
Sometimes a whif turns out way different from waht one might have thought in the first place ;) Very pretty thing!
before of to start with every whatif I do drawings using scanned 3 views of the original aircraft, but one thing is the drawing, another thing is the kit, in the case of this LIGHTNING was almost impossible to move more rearward the wings as I have would to do.
Quote from: kerick on August 28, 2012, 07:04:09 AM
Looking good to me! If you could take a pic of the front quarter or so to show off the inlet/radome combo. Nice work. This will have some scratching their heads.
done:
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But, it's the worst part I have made: I have done some changes of mind here in the front so the result is the two stage air intake: the first version was too much little, so I did an enlargement.
I have lost a lot of time improving this part of the kit, but the reult is not good.
The air intake is painted all black only for a purpose: to avoid at the observer look too much this zone..... less detail you see better is!
Looks good to me!
Is that a snow affect? :thumbsup:
Quote from: McColm on August 31, 2012, 11:13:05 PM
Is that a snow affect? :thumbsup:
I think it's dust, maybe resin dust..... the macro lens is terrible
Looking very smart. With the wing that far back I reckon the tailplanes could be remounted on the nose for even tighter turning ;D