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Title: Superduper Hornet
Post by: Gary on May 22, 2004, 08:13:22 PM
Ok, take two super hornets, Delta out the wing to increase load capability, Canard the nose, extend the cockpits for a total of 4 crew, Pilot, Nav/copilot, ECM officer, Weapons/Bomb aimer. Take off the guns, use the outter engine fairings and add a third engine inbetween, making  a nifty tunnel for fuel and thos noisy green thingys.

Whaddaya get
A Super Duper Hornet
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Post by: Gary on May 22, 2004, 08:14:31 PM
And for those of you who have yer own pencil crayons...
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Post by: Tophe on May 22, 2004, 10:47:49 PM
:wub:  Cheers and clapping hands, dear dreamer... :)  
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Post by: nev on May 23, 2004, 12:40:34 AM
So when ya gunna build it?  ;)  
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Post by: Swamphen on May 23, 2004, 04:54:10 AM
:o  :D  :ph34r:  :wub:  :wub:   :cheers:

Would this be a FB-18?  Thanks for the "roll-your-own" image...off to the drawing board...mwahaha!  :dum:

Not sure if it would work, but what about "zwilling" the canard?
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Post by: Scooterman on May 23, 2004, 08:27:13 AM
Can you push the fuselages/area between the engines together a bit more?  Looks a wee bit too wide in there.  Just a opinion.......

Still a super sweet concept!  I love it! :wub:  :wub:

So when do you start building it?!?  ;)

Brad
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Post by: Tophe on May 23, 2004, 08:44:44 AM
As I am focused on older types, I have drawn a forefather : the Curtiss/Imwfo push-pull Assender... :wacko:  
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Post by: John Howling Mouse on May 23, 2004, 10:55:17 AM
That's one sweet design, Tophe!

I'm still working towards figuring out your twin-boom B-29 (and I did buy an extra Academy 1:72 kit just for that!).

;)  
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Post by: Swamphen on May 23, 2004, 12:43:34 PM
IMWFO, mind if incorporate this design into my Universe 102 timeline?  B)

Here is the Mad Model Scientist's concept...bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!  :ar:

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.swamphen.net%2Fgraphics%2Faerospace%2Ffb-18h.jpg&hash=92ea3fb662cfdf11f70a2cb7c18538299aa2068d)
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Post by: elmayerle on May 23, 2004, 04:50:10 PM
QuoteAs I am focused on older types, I have drawn a forefather : the Curtiss/Imwfo push-pull Assender... :wacko:
That one might be more stable that the original Curtiss design was (I know just how bad it was, I've reduced the original wind tunnel data for a graduate stability and control class *shudder*).
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Post by: Supertom on May 23, 2004, 07:34:58 PM
The sole surviving Ascender is sitting the the Kalamazoo Air Zoo (my old town - boy I miss Kalamazoo)'s restoration hanger, part of the Smithsonian's program to get as many aircraft restored as possible.  I managed to spend some time with the aircraft and it was amazing looking at a piece of aviation history.  If I go back up again I can grab some photos if anyone wants.
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Post by: Mairfrog on May 23, 2004, 07:48:14 PM
Now, I may not have mentioned it before but F-18 bore me shitless, especially in grey. However, that thing is excellent!  :D  Take it to congress and get it built already.  ^_^

I do agree that the canard should be extended between the noses. Perhaps it should be swept too, like the original tail on the DH110.  
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Post by: Tophe on May 23, 2004, 08:31:13 PM
QuoteI do agree that the canard should be extended between the noses. Perhaps it should be swept too, like the original tail on the DH110.
There is not much room between this internal foreplane that would be and the apex of the aft wing. I hope that Ing. Elmayerle will tell us : would it work ? :)

Besides, it is great to hear JHM announcing a twin-boom B-29 on the workbench... :D  
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Post by: Tophe on May 23, 2004, 08:38:57 PM
Quotethe canard should be extended between the noses. Perhaps it should be swept too, like the original tail on the DH110.
Something like that ?
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Post by: elmayerle on May 23, 2004, 08:40:44 PM
Quote
QuoteI do agree that the canard should be extended between the noses. Perhaps it should be swept too, like the original tail on the DH110.
There is not much room between this internal foreplane that would be and the apex of the aft wing. I hope that Ing. Elmayerle will tell us : would it work ? :)

Besides, it is great to hear JHM announcing a twin-boom B-29 on the workbench... :D
Are we discussing the Hornet variant or the Ascender variant.  The centerline intersection of the two leading edges is one I'd like to see the flow fields for.  As for the Ascender variant, I think I'd like to see the canard carried across there, it wouldn't hurt.
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Post by: Tophe on May 23, 2004, 08:57:37 PM
QuoteAre we discussing the Hornet variant or the Ascender variant.  The centerline intersection of the two leading edges is one I'd like to see the flow fields for.  As for the Ascender variant, I think I'd like to see the canard carried across there, it wouldn't hurt.
All right, of course, but internal foreplane was not 'new' for Twin-Assenders, that is why I was very interested by the Twin-F-18 bringing something new. Maybe my mind is a little mixed - blame the medicines... :)  
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Post by: Aircav on May 24, 2004, 02:07:16 AM
Just love your drawings Tophe.
Steve
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Post by: Swamphen on May 24, 2004, 04:38:38 AM
Oh...it's a formation of three Zwilling Ascenders and a flying box!  B)

Seriously - nice work Tophe! :cheers:  
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Post by: Swamphen on May 24, 2004, 06:19:36 AM
Another version of IMWFO's Superduperhornet:

(humming Pink Panther theme...)

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.swamphen.net%2Fgraphics%2Faerospace%2Ffb-18h_2.jpg&hash=bc7b50abf885dfbe429da3ed0258affb43948da7)
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Post by: nev on May 24, 2004, 10:30:15 AM
Thinking about it, I'd prefer just the single forward fuselage, but keep the cranked delta wing & the canards.  Maybe move the engine intakes to above the fuselage for stealth purposes.
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Post by: Tophe on May 25, 2004, 09:10:51 AM
QuoteThinking about it, I'd prefer just the single forward fuselage, but keep the cranked delta wing & the canards.  Maybe move the engine intakes to above the fuselage for stealth purposes.
Without twinning, this canard delta F-18 is already well known, remember another topic :
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Post by: Tophe on May 25, 2004, 09:13:16 AM
Another try... 66Kb should not be too much...
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Post by: Tophe on May 25, 2004, 09:14:38 AM
And let us remember dear Alvis, the best of us maybe...
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Post by: Tophe on May 25, 2004, 09:18:47 AM
Quoteand a flying box!
It is a one metter cube for scale...
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Post by: Aircav on May 25, 2004, 10:00:34 AM
And I thought it was a Borg cube  ;)  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  
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Post by: Swamphen on May 25, 2004, 12:53:39 PM
from the What-If Collective?  :lol:

Love those Alvis Hornets...espically the one in the lower right.  :wub:

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Post by: lancer on May 25, 2004, 03:46:38 PM
Quotefrom the What-If Collective?  :lol:

Love those Alvis Hornets...espically the one in the lower right.  :wub:
So as well as spreading the lunacy, we've gone into the assimilating business as well eh??? I can see the banner at the next show.....

'Resistance is futile; your uniquenessx will be added to the What If Collective *Add evil Mairfrog like laugh here*

Hmmmm, could be interesting.
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Post by: Gary on May 27, 2004, 06:06:13 PM
Taking into account some of the ideas I've moved the engines closer together, but kept it three engined. The space between the engines is intended for use as bomb bays. I've enlarged the cockpit area overall, and lengthened the cockpit to accomidate three under glass. The intakes would need to be enlarged to accomidate the middle engine.

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Post by: Captain Canada on May 27, 2004, 08:44:51 PM
I really wanted to do a VSTOL Hornet for that ARC group build.....I managed to wrangle a Monogram Av-8B from a freinds kid ( already built ) But the 10 dollar Hornets from Wal-Mart were all sold out !


Argh....someday I'll build one !

;)  
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Post by: Swamphen on May 28, 2004, 05:41:37 AM
I'd say the latest version would be more likely to make it into production...but it ain't as radicool as the Megahornet.  ^_^  :ar:  
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Post by: Scooterman on May 28, 2004, 07:18:52 AM
QuoteI really wanted to do a VSTOL Hornet for that ARC group build.....I managed to wrangle a Monogram Av-8B from a freinds kid ( already built ) But the 10 dollar Hornets from Wal-Mart were all sold out !


Argh....someday I'll build one !

;)
I got a Revellogram F-18 in 1/48 that you can have Capt.  I think it's complete, but if not hey it's still free..........

Brad
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Post by: Tophe on May 28, 2004, 08:17:59 AM
Quoteas radicool as the Megahornet.  ^_^  :ar:
Do you mean "as cool as a model of our dear Radish"  :)  or else "radical + cool"  :) . Pardon my bad English... :(  
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Post by: Captain Canada on May 28, 2004, 08:46:42 AM
Thanks for the offer, Brad !

I sent you a PM

:P  
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Post by: Swamphen on May 28, 2004, 11:08:32 AM
Quote
Quoteas radicool as the Megahornet.  ^_^  :ar:
Do you mean "as cool as a model of our dear Radish"  :)  or else "radical + cool"  :) . Pardon my bad English... :(
"radical+cool".  ^_^  
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Post by: Scooterman on May 28, 2004, 12:49:48 PM
QuoteThanks for the offer, Brad !

I sent you a PM

:P
Replied to said PM!

Brad