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General Modelling Forum => General Modeling topics => Topic started by: GTX on September 11, 2010, 02:46:10 PM

Title: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: GTX on September 11, 2010, 02:46:10 PM
Hi folks,

Was looking for something esle when I stumbled across this:

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aviation-models.com%2FMerchant2%2Fgraphics%2F00000001%2Fmmi15006a.jpg&hash=f2fade011936551a3a8d581ca7fd95f6b4a7f6ce)

More here (http://www.aviation-models.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AM&Product_Code=MMI15006)

A straight out of the box whiff of a post war Hughes HK-1 Clipper!

What other similar finds have you made?

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: anthonyp on September 11, 2010, 06:29:40 PM
Well, all the F-19's from the 80's, the Mig-37 from Testors/Italeri, the first F-117 kits by AMT/ERTL, the first Revell "Advanced Tactical Bomber," and from the 70's, I've seen some Airfix (maybe Entex?) Concordes in Braniff markings.  Also the Lockheed L-500 by Entex which is a civvie C-5 by any other name.

Then there's the Top Gun series of movie planes (at least the "Mig-28" and the F-14 in... odd... markings).

There's also the old carrier from the "Supercarrier" TV show that was supposed to portray the USS Georgetown, CVN-67.

Too lazy to find pics, but I've got them ALL in the stash (except the Concorde and L-500, which pop up on Ebay every-so-often)  ;D
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on September 11, 2010, 06:59:07 PM
The Braniff Concordes are semi-whiffs...they were never painted in BI colors, but Braniff operated subsonic Concorde service between Washington and Dallas for a few years...one of the guys I work with flew for Braniff then and actually a Concorde Type Rating on his license...I think its a BAC122 or something.  A VERY rate Type Rating on an FAA license!!!  

[url]http://www.concordesst.com/history/events/braniff.html/[url]
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: anthonyp on September 11, 2010, 09:13:04 PM
Still, they qualify as whifs in model form  ;D

Getting back to insta-whiff, Anigrand has quite a few, ranging from his OK.092 Soviet Shuttle to the 1/72 Skyflash X-15 wannabe, not to mention his Luft 46 stuff, as well as his 1/72 X-20 stuff with not only the orbiter, but the XMS-1 launch vehicle, as well as his 1/144 RLV stuff (the X33, X-34 that was never launched, and the "X-40"), the HL-20 in the Lifting bodies set, as well as the numerous 1/144 bonus kits in that series (X-15C, Be-42, Yak-44, just to name a few).
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: AeroplaneDriver on September 11, 2010, 09:18:14 PM
How about the Monogram Snap-Tite "Orient Express" Spaceplane?  I've got a couple of those in the stash...I think the boxed the same kit with Military decals too.
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: philp on September 11, 2010, 09:53:14 PM
AZ has released several with What if markings:
Spiteful
Seafang
Ki-78
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: NARSES2 on September 12, 2010, 01:31:16 AM
As Philip has pointed out AZ have done a few now as have RS. The AZ boxes are even marked as "What if ?".

Special Hobby have just released the Ki-115 in 2 boxings one of which is marked as "Battle of Tokyo 1946"  :thumbsup:

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SH72199 (http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SH72199)

Just a reflection of the growing (at least on this side of the pond) acceptability of the world of wiffery. As any of the UK boys will tell you, you see more and more wif's on club stands at every show and the availabilty of them straight out of the box can only encourage more to model them  :thumbsup:

When we attended our first "E-Day" and met the Czech wif boys they were pleasantly suprised to find there were others of a similar ilk. There have always been a "lot of us" it's just that it's now acceptable other then amongst some real old die hards. And the world would be a boring place if we were all the same  ;D
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: lancer on September 12, 2010, 09:17:58 AM
QuoteWhen we attended our first "E-Day" and met the Czech wif boys they were pleasantly suprised to find there were others of a similar ilk. There have always been a "lot of us" it's just that it's now acceptable other then amongst some real old die hards. And the world would be a boring place if we were all the same

There will always be some old duffers who think we'll never be suitable for 'polite' society....
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on September 12, 2010, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: AeroplaneDriver on September 11, 2010, 06:59:07 PMThe Braniff Concordes are semi-whiffs...they were never painted in BI colors, but Braniff operated subsonic Concorde service between Washington and Dallas for a few years...one of the guys I work with flew for Braniff then and actually a Concorde Type Rating on his license...I think its a BAC122 or something.  A VERY rate Type Rating on an FAA license!!!  

Nick !! - when did you get back ??  :blink:

Back on topic - The H'gawa 1:48 Shinden comes with Hartmann 'Tulip' decals, and some Airfix box-art was a little 'speculative' at times (think HO/OO Panther  :wacko:)

Ian
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: Weaver on September 12, 2010, 01:32:21 PM
An oldie I just discovered: the Airfix Sdkfz 234/4 "pakwagon" (8x8 open-topped armoured car with a long 75mm AT gun) is of a non-existent vehicle. When Airfix measured one in a museum back in the 1960s it didn't have any mudguards, so they assumed they'd be the split-twin mudguards of the Sdkfz 232. Well they were wrong: all the Pakwagons were based on the Puma (Sdkfz 234) chassis, with continuous mudguards. There was a 232 with a short L24 close support gun, but never with the Pak-40. Even for a 232, the guards are wrong since they're over-sized and square-edged: the real things have rounded edges.

How about Tamiya's kit of the Sgt.York SPAAG, which was cancelled before entering service?
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: The Wooksta! on September 12, 2010, 02:03:53 PM
Hasegawa released their 72nd Shinden with Tokyo defence markings.

Dragon releasing the project versions of the He 162 (48th), Do 335, Ar 234P and He 219B.
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: NARSES2 on September 13, 2010, 03:04:41 AM
Quote from: Ian the Hunter-Gatherer on September 12, 2010, 09:38:15 AM
and some Airfix box-art was a little 'speculative' at times (think HO/OO Panther  :wacko:)

Ian

I think my fav was probably a boxing of the Bucaneer which had what looked like "Zero's" attacking and being shot down in the background  ;D

Quote from: Weaver on September 12, 2010, 01:32:21 PM
An oldie I just discovered: the Airfix Sdkfz 234/4 "pakwagon" (8x8 open-topped armoured car with a long 75mm AT gun) is of a non-existent vehicle. When Airfix measured one in a museum back in the 1960s it didn't have any mudguards, so they assumed they'd be the split-twin mudguards of the Sdkfz 232. Well they were wrong: all the Pakwagons were based on the Puma (Sdkfz 234) chassis, with continuous mudguards. There was a 232 with a short L24 close support gun, but never with the Pak-40. Even for a 232, the guards are wrong since they're over-sized and square-edged: the real things have rounded edges.



I can still remember the fuss that caused and still have the Airfix Magazine where Chris Ellis described how to correct it. Used to love those "simple" Chris Ellis converstion articles. I seem to remember he spent about 6 issues covering the Bren Carrier when it first came out  ;D
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: rickshaw on September 13, 2010, 03:37:56 AM
Quote from: Weaver on September 12, 2010, 01:32:21 PM
How about Tamiya's kit of the Sgt.York SPAAG, which was cancelled before entering service?

Be fair, it did get to prototype stage and was even named as a potential standard item.  Just a shame someone noticed that (a) the guns were outranged by the helicopters it was meant to destroy and (b) it didn't work very well....
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: Weaver on September 13, 2010, 04:17:10 AM
Quote from: rickshaw on September 13, 2010, 03:37:56 AM
Quote from: Weaver on September 12, 2010, 01:32:21 PM
How about Tamiya's kit of the Sgt.York SPAAG, which was cancelled before entering service?

Be fair, it did get to prototype stage and was even named as a potential standard item.  Just a shame someone noticed that (a) the guns were outranged by the helicopters it was meant to destroy and (b) it didn't work very well....

I particularly liked the incident where it spun round without warning and threatened to blast a reviewing stand full of VIPs: seemed to work just fine to me.... :wacko:

It's still a whiff in any kind of operational markings though, and you could make all sorts of hybrids with it. M1 chassis, SAM boxes and different radar springs immediately to mind.
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: Aircav on September 13, 2010, 04:22:16 AM
Didn't stop the Germans with their Gepard or the Russians with the 9K22 Tunguska.  ;D
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: Jschmus on September 13, 2010, 04:44:51 AM
There's the Revell/Zvezda Ka-58 Black Ghost, the fictional Russian stealth copter.  It was definitely fake, but once upon a time, Kamov had it listed in the history section of their website.
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: The Wooksta! on September 13, 2010, 05:41:17 AM
Italeri's Stingbat LHX helicopter is another from the 80s stealth craze, along with Revell's early B2.
Title: Re: Out of the Box Whiffs
Post by: PR19_Kit on September 14, 2010, 11:00:18 AM
This month's SAM has RS Models 1/72 scale Fokker DXXII, with Whiff decals for various possible Dutch flown aircraft. The box top shows an East Indies one, of a pair, having just shot up an 'Emily'! Great stuff, considering there was only one built.  :thumbsup: