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So it started like this
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I decided I didn't like the F-19 wings.
Then I got a YF-23 at the nats so now she looks like this
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I added the upper from an F-117 and the 23 wings :wacko:

Wow...nice one :) I will be watch this closely! Good luck :)

man......that is alot of engines,cool

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From below it kinda reminds me of the original Cylon raiders.

Reminds me of the Aspen Prison shuttle from the Judge Dredd movie  ;D

Thanks all y'all :wub: 
Wasek welcome to you . Having seen your stuff we'll get along just fine ;D
Arkon ,yeah it just kept growing engines :rolleyes: I initially planned on the fuselage engines being air breathers and the SR-71'S being rockets or SCRAM's or some such so the F-23's will be ion engines (or some such) Cause I couldn't bear to cut them off :thumbsup: :blink:
Cherny ,good eye, this was originally concieved as the companion piece to the Viper model A. :o :huh:
Still might be I have no backstory at this point.
Thorvic I had almost managed to forget the horror of Judge Dredd . As a big fan of the comics I was ......I can't say how I felt on a family friendly site... now I actually have to go look that crap up :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

That is so imaginative! How you come up with that is beyond me... but boy I wish I knew how to do it!  :bow:

Tdan it ain't a big secret. I just work in shapes. Sometimes I really don't have any plan or backstory for a model at all. I just see shapes and realize that if I put them together they will be coooooool :mellow:
I actually had a guy tell me what an F up I was at the IPMS nats.  I mentioned what I was going to do with my F-23 and my F-20 and I could see the dude actually turning different colors when he told me how much those models go for on E-BAY.
My response was kinda , " Yeah, no I am going to cut them up in little pieces and kitbash them." He got all stiff and walked off :wacko: :blink: :party: ;D

Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 03, 2010, 04:21:51 PMI actually had a guy tell me what an F up I was at the IPMS nats.  I mentioned what I was going to do with my F-23 and my F-20 and I could see the dude actually turning different colors when he told me how much those models go for on E-BAY.
My response was kinda , " Yeah, no I am going to cut them up in little pieces and kitbash them." He got all stiff and walked off :wacko: :blink: :party: ;D

I hope he left in tears ;^)

I think he may have actually suffered some kind of fit..... I love doing stuff like that ;D :lol: :wacko:

...so I take delight in the other fellow's discomfiture.

Again, the "custom car" thing is widely accepted, WHY NOT with aircraft, as well??

Things with any more than six propeller blades (like a jet turbine) aren't my thing, but I applaud your zany creations anyway.

QuoteI just work in shapes. Sometimes I really don't have any plan or backstory for a model at all. I just see shapes and realize that if I put them together they will be coooooool

And you do it so well! Bravo Sir!! :ph34r:

Whoa! Actually, with all the facets, it struck me as being like a version of the Draconian Marauder from Buck Rogers that was actually designed by somebody with taste.... ;D

Quote from: sequoiaranger on September 03, 2010, 05:27:21 PM
Things with any more than six propeller blades (like a jet turbine) aren't my thing, but I applaud your zany creations anyway.

So no 4-prop bombers then?  ;D

Whichever way you go with this, it will undoubtably look speedy. So why not have it in some form of racing livery?

Will look forward to seeing the completion of this one.  :thumbsup:

tt43.

Thanks all y'all :wub: Weaver I most especially thank you for bringing up memories of Erin Gray in spandex :wub: :wub: :wub: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Looking most cool Sir !  Yeah, some of those douchebags at the nats were fun to toy with.

Nice!  I second the Draconian Marauder, it was nagging me until someone else mentioned it.  Looks awesome so far!!

Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 03, 2010, 05:01:12 PM
I think he may have actually suffered some kind of fit..... I love doing stuff like that ;D :lol: :wacko:

You're evil...I like that!

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regards,

Greg

Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 04, 2010, 05:47:22 AM
Thanks all y'all :wub: Weaver I most especially thank you for bringing up memories of Erin Gray in spandex :wub: :wub: :wub: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Oh, & nice project! :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:

QuoteI initially planned on the fuselage engines being air breathers and the SR-71'S being rockets or SCRAM's or some such so the F-23's will be ion engines (or some such)

Why not do this as a competitor (ala YF-22/YF-23) or compliment to the F-302 from Stargate:

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The F-302 was fitted with four sets of engines: two traditional jet engines, two aerospike engines, one rocket motor, and a naqahdriah-based hyperspace window generator. You could do something similar.

Regards,

Greg

Thanks all y'all :wub: I have some PSR done pics later, Greg I like the idea but must admit I have never seen a second of any of the Stargate series. Just the original flick. Doing the backstory would require some serious research. Feel free to write one up though . ;D

Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 04, 2010, 12:30:01 PM
Thanks all y'all :wub: I have some PSR done pics later, Greg I like the idea but must admit I have never seen a second of any of the Stargate series. Just the original flick. Doing the backstory would require some serious research. Feel free to write one up though . ;D

I may be able to come up with something...PM me if you have any preferences.

Regards,

Greg

Will do let me get a bit further into the build. I know it will have rail guns, lasers ,and conventional guns as well as the 3 different types of engines. I hadn't planned on it being so advanced that it would have warp type engines but heck who knows. I'm not even sure of the scale at this point. :blink: :rolleyes: :huh:

Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 03, 2010, 05:01:12 PM
I think he may have actually suffered some kind of fit..... I love doing stuff like that ;D :lol: :wacko:

Seen that happen, more than a few times

The Joys of turning to the dark side :)

Looks interesting, got a Tau feeling to it

You got me there ARC :huh: :blink: What's a Tau ?

Its a Manga inspired Warhammer 40000 race

This is so awesome it hurts my brain.

I 2nd Greg's suggestion for an F-302/X-302 competitor.  Might need to make it like X-402 (since the X-301 was a rebuilt Deathglider, the X-303 was the Prometheus, and the X-304 became the the Daedelus class battlecruisers (BC-304)).

Looks beastly awesome dude!

Thanks y'all I will have to go look up Stargate ships sounds like they got all kinda neat stuff.

Here you go:

X-301 (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/X-301)
X-302 (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/X-302)
F-302 (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/F-302_fighter-interceptor)
X-303 (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/X-303)
BC-303 (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/BC-303)
Prometheus (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Prometheus)
304/Daedalus-Class  (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Daedalus-class_warship)

Regards,

Greg

Cool .That gives me a lot to work with. I knew I could count on you :wub: :thumbsup: :bow:

I would go either with a competitor to the X-302 (ala YF-22/YF-23).  Maybe even do that, but then have it recast in the role of a heavy striker compliment to the F-302 (ala what was considered with the FB-23 from the YF-23).

Regards,

Greg

Good idea. I had already been considering how I could integrate the extra ION engines in the story , heavy long range, strikeship and LRRP fighter.

I haven't been around much lately, but it sure is nice to see something like this when i do check in!  :wub:  Waaaay Cool!

Thanks J  :wub:Nice to see you back. PM me bubba :thumbsup:

PSR and blendyfication :thumbsup:
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Wow! ;D

Absolutely BONKERS.  What's not to love about that!!

Keep up the good work Sotoolslinger.

Ed

Thanks y'all :wub: Feel free to start throwing out perferred paint schemes.

The metallic eagle scheme that's currently on the F-22 might look sharp.

Then again, you could go with a modified shuttle scheme like I did for my SF-23.

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That's freakin cool :mellow: I like what you did with that -23 :thumbsup:

Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 08, 2010, 11:33:04 AM
Thanks y'all :wub: Feel free to start throwing out perferred paint schemes.

Dark blue, old style US Navy colors & markings.

Ed

Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 08, 2010, 03:37:35 PM
That's freakin cool :mellow: I like what you did with that -23 :thumbsup:

Thanks!  That one finally has a home in Starcom.  Currently doing up the decals for her and a buttload of other models.

What is Starcom? :huh:

Quote from: cthulhu77 on September 04, 2010, 07:27:11 AM
Looking most cool Sir !  Yeah, some of those douchebags at the nats were fun to toy with.

Alas, though present most of the time, I didn't actually witness any Zealot Baiting myself.  But for sure, there was a very high proportion of the joyless end of the spectrum evident.  That's unhealthy competition for you, I suppose.  And as for OGLs comment about the dark side, the display was arranged in that way, ranging from light to very dark wiffery.  The JMNs certainly needed their penlights, just to find their way past the Toolslinger collection.

This fine Multistealth creation will get them going.  Don't forget them seat buckles, and be sure to open a few superdetailed panels up...   :thumbsup:

Should the panels be hinged or removable :huh: ;D :lol: :rolleyes:

Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 09, 2010, 06:12:22 AM
What is Starcom? :huh:

Starcom:  The US Space Force (http://www.starcomspaceforce.com/)

Here's the intro for the cartoon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwwhZHERlG4).  Kinda like GI Joe in space.

I'm doing a prequel type thing with shuttles, space operations complexes, kitbashed spaceplanes, etc.  Basically a 1 man GB.

Cool :mellow: I have never seen those before. Need one of those enemy vtol fighters :wub:

Seen only now this fantastic model.

From Stealth to Star-Stealth.

Looking from above the your creation look like a five point star apllied to an aircraft.

Thanks GM :wub: Great observation ;D I built the thing and I did not notice the resemblance to a star until you brought it up :blink: It will look even more like a star when I add the F-23 stabilators :wacko:
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I couldn't tell where you were going with this, Ron, but as usual, it's turning out awesome.

What brand of putty are you using? I'm thinking of buying some of their stock...

WOW! I mean, just WOW!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I can imagine the SR-71 intakes with huge guns mounted on them....

Thanks y'all :wub: Franks just invest in any putty I keep em all pretty busy there are 4 different brands on that build.
AD the guns are going in the rectangular intakes from the F-117 and somewhere on the bottom and then again somewhere else :wacko:

Very nice !!! You took a good concept and made it ingenious !   :cheers:

Quote from: AeroplaneDriver on September 11, 2010, 08:02:19 PM
WOW! I mean, just WOW!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I can imagine the SR-71 intakes with huge guns mounted on them....

Oh that's right ...give him idea's where to stick even more guns on his creations why don't ya??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What that needs now is a nice sensible sober airline scheme applying to it - Pan Am or suchlike.  White uppers, silver underside, grey wings with a blue cheatline.  The cognitiive dissonance induced will just melt the single brain cell of all passing zealots. 

Badly want to see this and a few others at Telford.  How about it, Toolslinger?

Well unfortunately they don't allow me to have a passport :banghead: :banghead:Might be able to send the models over. When is it?

Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 12, 2010, 01:45:46 PM
Well unfortunately they don't allow me to have a passport :banghead: :banghead:Might be able to send the models over. When is it?

Does that mean you're confined within the Estados Unidas for like... forever?  :o  Maybe they'll let you go when the place descends into utter anarchy and chaos, so perhaps be seeing you next year.  :wacko: :thumbsup:

Telford is mid-November, but I wouldn't trust the post.  Scooterman has bravely sent stuff over before, though. 

Would that it were but I don't believe I can ever obtain a passport what with the Federal thing. :banghead:  Yell at me closer to Nov and we'll see :thumbsup:

This is more than a proyect, is a Pharaonical work.

Thank you Pablo :wub:

This belongs in a Manga film or one of those computer games with heavily modded versions of real aircraft, v.cool! :ph34r:

Good god thats great!!  :thumbsup:

Thanks y'all :wub: I have to fly up to Idaho and Washington for work but this is going with me. So once again you'll get to see me work projects in motel rooms :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

The more I see this, the more I love it, and it was already love at first sight.  :wub:

Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 15, 2010, 11:56:14 AM
Thanks y'all :wub: I have to fly up to Idaho and Washington for work but this is going with me. So once again you'll get to see me work projects in motel rooms :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

My recent guide and fellow traveler with One L insisted on only booking into respectable national motel chains to avoid crack houses and other such dens of iniquity.   :blink:

You go easy on that solitary glue sniffin', Dude.  (Do the hallucinations help the creative thought process?)

Idaho should be good for a sack of potatoes to take home?   :thumbsup:

Hey I like dens of iniquity :wacko: Also I already hallucinate enough without sniffin glue ;D

Getting better and better. Looks like a 'simple' model built according to written instructions, not what-if at all: so perfect! ;D :bow:

What a great compliment :wub: Thanks Tophe :thumbsup: Tomorrow guns and engine work :blink: :wacko:

Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 17, 2010, 06:44:32 AM
Tomorrow guns and engine work :blink: :wacko:

Your typical blue-collar American pastimes, then.  Maybe you will be able to find some time for modeling too.   :thumbsup:

Quote from: Roger the Cabin Boy on September 12, 2010, 10:40:38 AM
What that needs now is a nice sensible sober airline scheme applying to it - Pan Am or suchlike.  White uppers, silver underside, grey wings with a blue cheatline.  The cognitiive dissonance induced will just melt the single brain cell of all passing zealots. 

Badly want to see this and a few others at Telford.  How about it, Toolslinger?

That, or a typical Bf-109 scheme. That always seems to make heads explode!

Alvis Pi

 :lol: :lol: :lol:   But make sure you use an incorrect choice of RLM shade, just to get them all flustered.  A mottled desert scheme would sure look purty, eh. 

Actually the guys over at (some other site that shall not be named but has Starship in it) says it looks so fast it just gotta have RED in the paintscheme :wacko: I am thinking of copper and red and naming it Copperhead in English and Bloodstar in Russian :wacko: :party:

... what about that MiG-19 with corsair/crusader wings? :wub: :huh: :o

That project is back at home in Texas. I am in Idaho  :blink: But I do have this one with me :wacko:
Engine work
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Rail guns(thanks to Cthulhu for the rectangular tube)
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This just goes to prove that Southern Comfort and Krazy Glue help inspire genius model  building !   :drink:

Genius requires lubrication :wacko: ;D

  :o Getting better by the day!!  :thumbsup:

Thanks 'cat but now I have to fly to Seattle and since I put the new stabs on the frikken thing is too big to fit the box I brought for it :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 21, 2010, 09:01:28 PMThanks 'cat but now I have to fly to Seattle and since I put the new stabs on the frikken thing is too big to fit the box I brought for it :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Hope it makes the trip in one piece.

Better off a little deconstructed anyway, as the paranoid Dept of Homeland Security staff will take fright at that strange shape passing thru the X Ray baggage scanner.  :wacko:

Excellent Ron - it's getting better/madder (same thing...;)) with every step!  :thumbsup:

It has a look of  starfish from the surfaces point of view.
Finally the nature is the best resource. :cheers: :bow:

Thanks all y'all she made it fine ;D

Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 22, 2010, 02:06:19 PM
Thanks all y'all she made it fine ;D

Where are you staying in Seattle?

I'm just to the north up in Everett.
PM with phone number on the way.

Jon

Hey all y'all I finally made it back home for a while. Dang I got a lot to do before the Austin show. Massive PSR session yesterday.
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4 projects to finish before the 9th :blink:

I know your running out of time Ron, but how about some fins on the underside in opposition to those on the top?

HMMMMM :wacko:

Amazing :thumbsup: :bow:

And 'nuther (undernose) fin - and she won't need no stand.   ;D

Have you considered Spats?   :thumbsup:

Allright now quite down in the peanut gallery ;D I have entirely too much stuff to do to go addin more. :rolleyes: :blink:

I think you should make a few out of gingerbread for the holidays, this one is simply delicious.  :thumbsup:

Seriously, super cool!

Thanks bubba. I hope to have this finished by Austin on the 9th :blink:

Well obviously I did not finish in time for the show :blink: But look out there is copper ;D
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Nice blending there.   :thumbsup:

Built with copper, eh?  Mined in Chile?   ;D

Very nice!  ;D

Thanks Y'all :wub: Hey it's a tribute build ;D Maybe I'll put Chilean markings on her ;)

But does it smell as good as when it was red?  :ph34r:

Quote from: sotoolslinger on October 13, 2010, 11:54:30 AM
Thanks Y'all :wub: Hey it's a tribute build ;D Maybe I'll put Chilean markings on her ;)

Yes, do!!!  It's an awesomely wonderful story.

Wow, what a whirlwind build....I get dizzy just watching your work come together, STS.  You are simply ahead of your time (Panasonic?) !!   This is incredibly original.   :wub:

Thanks Baz :wub: Here is todays update
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Don't know if this has come up yet or not but after seeing this beaut of a build with paint I'm reminded slightly of this craft from the Halo universe.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Longsword (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Longsword)

Your build is top notch sir and screams to be in a sci-fi movie!  :thumbsup:

Hello,
You Modelers have the most wild and extreme imaginations. congratulations on your wonderful creation. It makes me feel like a kid again.

Batman

I tell ya, first the copper, now the red, it's an evolved Draconian Marauder! Look!

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/DRACONIAN%20MARAUDER%20PAGE.htm

I see salmon-pink sorry coral (check the box shot) in it's future..... ;D

Great build Ron - looking really good!  :thumbsup:

Not the only one thinking that! :thumbsup:  Looking fantastic so far! :drink:

Hey thanks all y'all :wub: I have some more colors going on her :wacko: We'll see how they look going over the copper ;D

Hey Ron, you just prompted a new poster!

Welcome to the extreme dark side of Wiffery, Batman 10.     :thumbsup:

Wow Batman likes my stuff ;D :wub: :thumbsup:

Can't wait to see how this ends up, I know better than to think I know how it will end....always a surprise left after the last surprise.

More spraying today. I have to leave town tomorrow so I need to get her to the handpainting  details stage :wacko:

MO COLOR :wacko:
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marvelous style, and big prroyect. :thumbsup: :bow:

Whatever else you do, I hope the orange stays!  :wub:

Great! :thumbsup:

Why not add a couple of Chilean flags, and then see how many Texans don't notice the difference.   ;D

Thanks all y'all.  :wub:
Jeff the orange definitely stays :wacko:
Heck Phil I had to look twice myself :rolleyes:

How about that!?!  :o :wub: :wub:

Yeah sometimes you just gotta slam some colors on there :wacko:

Looking glam! :wub: :wub: :wub:

She likes being dressed up pretty ;)

Mo pretty colors :wub:
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So much for it being a stealth aircraft in those colours. Looks more like an explosion in a Harlem Clothes shop in the 1970's

Gondor

Well it just so happens that the alien aggressors are red/orange colorblind so that is actually camouflage ;D

Quote from: Gondor on October 18, 2010, 02:55:16 PM
Looks more like an explosion in a Harlem Clothes shop in the 1970's

Gondor

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   PLAY THAT FUNKY MUSIC

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 :mellow: ;) ;D :thumbsup: :party:

I love the crazy shape. The colours make it look like it ought to be in a toybox though xD

Looks more tribal to me, all those natural red-brown colours! :thumbsup:

Well she ain't finished yet ;) Give me till the weekend as I am doing 16 hour days the rest ove the week. :banghead:

I continue to love this build.   :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:

Thank you my brother :wub: She is going to get a special coating over the colors and of course the engines and guns will get metallics and the whole ship will be slightly weathered :thumbsup:

EPIC

 ;D

Engine paint and special ablative coating ;) (to tone down the colors) :rolleyes:
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It's like watching a butterfly come out of it's cocoon.  :thumbsup: To frakken' cool!

It kinda reminds me of something of the TV series Buck Rogers, only 1,000,000 times cooler, and 5,000,000 less cheesy ;D
Excellent stuff Ron  :thumbsup:
Chris.

Thanks y'all :wub: Next decals :thumbsup:

Waiting,  :wub: :thumbsup: :cheers:

One thing that struck me about this one is how angular it is on top, and how smooth and curvaceous the underside is.  A neat contrast for sure.  I like how the colors were subdued as well. 
Nice job bending that putty.
Brandon

Thanks Y'all :wub: Pablo....wait for it. ;) ;D

Chile or Texas...?   ;D

No national markings. I just spent about 6 hours decaling her. I really Chris Fossed her up. :thumbsup:
Pics in a while.

Look out there are decal :wacko:
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Very colourful stuff !!!!

I think the decals work quite well with that color scheme  :thumbsup:

Agreed :wub: :wub: :thumbsup: :bow:

I suspect he's making it all up as he goes along.   ;D

Thanks all Y'all :wub: Phil your not supposed to tell everyone that ;) :rolleyes:

I know who's airforce it belongs to  ;D
The Republic of Loony Tunes of course  :lol: :wacko:
Chris.

And we're done ;D
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Outstanding - you have GOT to photograph that against a black backdrop! :wub: :wub: :wub:

That bad boy is cool lookin'.

I also recognize the book that is in the background of that fourth pic.  I don't remember the name of it, but that was one book I did NOT want to take back to the library when I was done with it.  If you don't mind, let me know what it is so I can look for it.

I look forward to more pics if you take Weaver's suggestion.
Brandon

Quote from: Weaver on November 11, 2010, 04:52:58 PM
Outstanding - you have GOT to photograph that against a black backdrop! :wub: :wub: :wub:

He is most exactly correct.  If nothing else, maybe one of the talented Photoshoppers here can do a dark stellar background around your completed model's outline?

This is truly wild and inspired work, Ron. 

I understand the local phrase, (auto translated by the inbuilt profanity filter  :lol: ) would be

'Bad donkey'...? 

Is that like a recalcitrant mule?  Home on the range, and all that?    :thumbsup:

Thanks all y'all  :wub: I'll definitly get some pics on a black background :thumbsup: BrittMac that is Spacecraft 2000 to 2100 AD by Stewart Cowley . Look in sci-fi I am building the Alphan Stingray right now :thumbsup: