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Title: Rocket Fighters
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 27, 2010, 11:42:30 AM
Bereznyak-Isayev
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bereznyak-Isayev_BI-1
http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/Histories/BI-6/BI-6.htm
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: jcf on July 27, 2010, 11:52:53 AM
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/bi1.html

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.airwar.ru%2Fimage%2Fidop%2Ffww2%2Fbi%2Fbi-1.gif&hash=eb45408be645f50b054ba1017cae0825f3f17a59)
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: Doc Yo on July 30, 2010, 11:55:57 AM
 Still my favorite chapter in Green's Rocket Fighter. Through no deliberate action on my part, I have
three of the things, one the VP Canada vac, and two in styrene from some small Russian company. Tiny,
Tiny little airplane.
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: raafif on July 30, 2010, 08:39:54 PM
I did start a Rocket Fighters thread a month or two ago but I'll post my idea here too ...

Jet engines prove unreliable so rockets are used -- the EE Lightning gets 2 rocket-engines like the (Saunders-Roe SR-53) -- short endurance mandates the use of a booster fuel-cell to get to altitude before attacking the incoming enemy bombers -- as they don't need a nose intake, the space is used to house folding-fin barrage-rockets in a circular bank (radar is not needed due to ground-control & no long patrols to seek the enemy at a distance).

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi148.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs34%2Fhobgrot%2FLR.jpg&hash=89158ba8f01b37745a57edaf175b96edc2ba20a5)

this is a Whif site after all ... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: Runway ? ... on August 01, 2010, 11:47:44 PM
Shades of Bachem Natter. Well, the Lightning was kinda for point defense I suppose.  ;D
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: dy031101 on August 02, 2010, 11:26:54 AM
As one of the designs made to the F.115T requirement and based on Avro 720, in my mind no-one does it better than Avro 729.

Just find an excuse to take away operationally-restriction-free afterburners and the rocket boosters would be all the more useful again.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: ysi_maniac on August 02, 2010, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: raafif on July 30, 2010, 08:39:54 PM
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi148.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs34%2Fhobgrot%2FLR.jpg&hash=89158ba8f01b37745a57edaf175b96edc2ba20a5)
But this is genial :thumbsup: :party: :blink:
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: Jschmus on August 02, 2010, 12:44:04 PM
Looks like the Japanese got in on the game, at least for a time, with the Mizuno Shinryu interceptor:

http://www.j-aircraft.org/xplanes/hikoki_files/shinryu.htm
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: Weaver on August 02, 2010, 05:40:49 PM
Nice one Raafif!  :thumbsup:

I followed a similar line of thought, but in an earlier timeframe, with my Gloster Goblin: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,28131.0.html
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: raafif on August 02, 2010, 06:09:23 PM
love that Wobblin' Goblin, weaver  :thumbsup:

Actually I cheated a bit on the rocket-nose -- a few years ago I saw a pic (think it was in the news section of Flypast) of two Lightning forward fuselages modified for a sci-fi movie (rather like a cross between UFO & Space 1999) -- they had the radome removed & a bank of rocket-tubes instead, the cockpit sides were padded out too.

Anyone have the pic or the name of the movie ??
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: ChernayaAkula on August 02, 2010, 06:10:24 PM
With that huge booster rocket, that Lightning reminds me of those Stratos 4 anti-meteor TSR.2s!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: Weaver on August 02, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: raafif on August 02, 2010, 06:09:23 PM
love that Wobblin' Goblin, weaver  :thumbsup:

Actually I cheated a bit on the rocket-nose -- a few years ago I saw a pic (think it was in the news section of Flypast) of two Lightning forward fuselages modified for a sci-fi movie (rather like a cross between UFO & Space 1999) -- they had the radome removed & a bank of rocket-tubes instead, the cockpit sides were padded out too.

Anyone have the pic or the name of the movie ??

Wing Commander, based on the computer game:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_Commander_(film)

It also used Canberra fuselages as the "heavy fighter".
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: The Wooksta! on August 03, 2010, 02:57:36 AM
I rather enjoyed that film.  Saffron Burrows is quite hot too.
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: Weaver on August 03, 2010, 04:21:03 AM
Me too.  :thumbsup:

S'funny isn't it? Sometimes you can watch a film, and you can see exactly why it got critically panned, and agree that it deserved it, but you still enjoy watching it. Mood and blood alcohol level have a bearing on the matter, of course....;)
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: ysi_maniac on September 10, 2018, 06:18:32 AM
German Rocket Fighters

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1080.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj340%2Fysi_maniac%2FDrawing%2FMe163_Natter.jpeg&hash=95e607c4a2bd9b803addd0e6667d8291a94597b3) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/Me163_Natter.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Rocket Fighters
Post by: NARSES2 on September 10, 2018, 06:22:24 AM
Now the Natter front end attached to the 163 looks quite plausible  :thumbsup: