To arm my Patchwork World Dutch, beyond the rebuilt armor from my youth I'd posted earlier, I picked up a few 1/72 and 1/76 kits and am playing mix-and-match with the pieces.
I'm finding I want to buy a bunch more so I can really mix up parts and create hard-to-recognize outcomes.
For now, here are the works in progress.
What's been done so far:
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A Kapstaad combat car, for patrolling the veldt around the Boer farms to the north of the city-state.
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A second-generation Nieuw Amsterdam Landship in front of the hull of a Pennadelphian armoured "tank"
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(The track that comes with the twin-turret tank is much too long.)
Two shots of a fourth-generation N.A. Landship and semi-tracked troop carrier.
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I'm looking for in-scale self-propelled artillery, 1930s to Korean war. National origin is not important.
RevD do a few German WW2 SPGs.
The Revellobox Wespe is interesting and highly convertible into other SP weapons, since it's just a platform with a gun and shields. If you can find one, the Matchbox Stuart comes with both welded and cast turrets so you have one spare whatever you do with it.
Here's an idea I just had but feel free to use it: get the Airfix Sdkfz.234/4 (the open-topped Pak-wagon with the 75mm), remove the gun, reverse the direction of travel (so it now has a Hanomag-style long bonnet at the front), plate over the side shields leaving a slot window at the new "front" then modify the new "back" into more of a troop-carrier shape.
Thanks for the pointers! :thumbsup:
I'll look for the Wespe. Have you seen any Priests/Sextons?
SPGs might end up in the armed forces of some Dutch city-state. Perhaps patrolling the northern reaches of CharlesStaad-influenced territories to keep an eye on the troublesome Elizabethans of New York?
I also have a WW1 US 6 ton, which comes with two hulls, three different turrets, and several guns, so that will be my first generation "tankette" of the Nieuw Angelanders, the one that caused the Nieuw Amsterdamers to build their own response.
These are in the Italeri "Quick Build" range Joe
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/IT7513 (http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/IT7513)
I didn't know about those :)
What about a Jagdpanzer type conversion of a Sherman or a Lee/Grant
What's the base for the Kappstaad ? It looks interesting .
Where's the armored car from? It looks like a Russian BA-3/BA-6/BA-10. I didn't know there were kits of it in 1/72
Unimodel do loads of interesting stuff, here's their BA-3
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/UNIM320 (http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/UNIM320)
I still have some WW2 vehicles and tanks in 1/72nd and 76th scale if they are of interest to you. I have a sherman, DUWK, german half track x2 2.5 ton 6x6 truck and a jeep with trailer if they are any use to you let me know and I will dig them out.
Chris.
There's also a Revellobox Priest in 1/72nd. I always thought the obvious whiff was to fit it with a 17pdr to turn it into a tank-destroyer. There's a Revellobox 17pdr too......
Quote from: frank2056 on July 20, 2010, 06:52:53 AM
Where's the armored car from? It looks like a Russian BA-3/BA-6/BA-10. I didn't know there were kits of it in 1/72
Exactly! I used the turret on the Lee superstructure combined with a Panzer IV hull. I think the combat car looks better with a swivelling machine gun, in this case a Browning .32 cal. (Browning ended up the largest seller of machine guns to the various Dutch cities. Virtually all Dutch armour, aircraft, and vessels have Brownings, though there are always exceptions to the rule.)
The BA-6 is an obscure Russian or Polish or Czech model I picked up at the local hobby shop, but Squadron's catalog also lists them in 1/72.
I've decided the N.A. made landships similar to US models plus German-style half-tracks, Kaapstaad prefers wheeled vehicles, while Charles Staad has gone with SPGs, trading the complexity and flexibility for bigger guns and lower silouhette. The Nieuw Angelanders have more primitive models, and Pennadelphia prefers lighter, smaller, faster patrol vehicles.
Narses, thank you for that pointer to Hannants!
Chrisonord, if you don't want them I'll take them. I'm certain I can hack them into something interesting.
Quote from: Weaver on July 20, 2010, 02:13:14 PM
There's also a Revellobox Priest in 1/72nd. I always thought the obvious whiff was to fit it with a 17pdr to turn it into a tank-destroyer. There's a Revellobox 17pdr too......
I did that a long time ago when the Matchbox kits first came out, no idea where it went. I think it was 1/76 scale rather then 1/72. Not much of a difference but it can be notice when alongside a 1/72 kit. Nitpick mode off :banghead:
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 21, 2010, 01:03:44 AM
Quote from: Weaver on July 20, 2010, 02:13:14 PM
There's also a Revellobox Priest in 1/72nd. I always thought the obvious whiff was to fit it with a 17pdr to turn it into a tank-destroyer. There's a Revellobox 17pdr too......
I did that a long time ago when the Matchbox kits first came out, no idea where it went. I think it was 1/76 scale rather then 1/72. Not much of a difference but it can be notice when alongside a 1/72 kit. Nitpick mode off :banghead:
Yes, you're right: the Matchbox tanks were all 1/76th.
It was the diorama bases that sold them to me.
The bases did the trick for me as well. I snagged a bunch of them recently.
They also convert quite awesomely to 1/700 land battleships. ;D
Speaking of which, does anyone do a kit of that insanely large tank the Germans were going to build? The one with a battleship turret?
This obsession with big guns infers one thing about the Nazis - perhaps they were lacking something elsewhere?
I'm not aware of a Ratte in anything other than 1/720, though that looks pretty sweet.
http://modelscale.free.fr/histoire/TAKA_SWea1_P/index.html
I have the splinter one, and it usually hangs out with my Surcouf. Spendidly insane examples of "Just put a bigger gun on it" syndrome.
Quote from: proditor on July 21, 2010, 06:00:08 AM
The bases did the trick for me as well.
It was a great idea. I assume they are still in the Revell re-pops ?
Quote from: NARSES2 on July 21, 2010, 07:18:51 AM
Quote from: proditor on July 21, 2010, 06:00:08 AM
The bases did the trick for me as well.
It was a great idea. I assume they are still in the Revell re-pops ?
In all of the ones I've gotten so far, yes. I have the Chaffee and and the Panzer Jaeger IV/L 70 and they both have bases. All one color, which was a bummer to the 9 year old in me, but the bases made me happy. :)
And obliquely back to the thread, Joe, you may want to see exactly what Airfix and RG can do for you in this scale. Lots of older kits that you can get on the cheap and hack apart to your heart's content.
Back to the SP arty, there's a Revellobox M40 GMC isn't there?
Revell do a Hummel too.
AFAIK, other manufacturers have covered most of the WWII SP options. Certainly the Eastern Europeans have done all the Russian SPGs.
The Revell M40 is just what I'm looking for! Self-propelled artillery.
These are used by the Nieuw Amsterdam Dutch to patrol their shores and river banks in lieu of fixed fortifications that can only cover a limited area, and whose weapons can't be relocated easily. The difference is their ability to elevate for long range. They'd be paired with a howitzer-like vehicle such as the Wespe or Priest, a landship like the Sherman, a semi-tracked armoured troop carrier for the crews of the guns, and an ammo carrier. Defense in depth.
I've been fleshing out the defense concepts of some of the the various Dutch-founded cities. Amsterdam herself is old and surrounded by well-established lands, so there are a few forts with light troops patrolling inland, but well-armed forts facing the sea. CharlesStaad likes SPGs mixed with MG-armed light landships for anti-personnel and AA. Kaapstaad has chosen wheeled vehicles due to the uneven terrain of the veldt and the large open areas to cross. Singapore has rail lines ringing the shores and inland, carrying armoured trains and individual cars. The Panamas use mostly aircraft and ships and boats, while in between only ground troops, motorcycles and small 4WDs can traverse the forests around the 4 cross-isthmus rail lines.
Joe. That is almost exactly as I would imagine the defences being set up in this type of world. Hadn't figured the armoured trains, but now you said it, it's obvious :thumbsup:
I found 1/72 armoured train models, and it just came to me that ringing the land side of Singapore with a couple lines of tracks would be an interesting defense system, more flexible than fixed forts, able to shift location of forces as needed.
Now to get to work on finishing the models, so I can buy and make some more! ;D
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MACHAR02
this one ?
Although converting a few Dapol models might be more cost effective
I've been looking at the UM models in the Squadron catalog, but first I will go to my local hobby shop. I always give them the first shot, and I always find something to inspire me.
Got a 1/72 Bishop SP gun and a pair of Pegasus P-245 tanks for a PW build.
Finished the P-245 I will try to get a pic of it.
I've a pair of those Pegasus paper panzers, the Jaguarundi. I had some strange idea for a diorama with a pair of those knocked out on a battlefield and some Daleks trundling past. Post "Genesis of the Daleks" with the Daleks wiping out the remnants of the Thal military. Mainly as the tanks looked alien enough.