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Title: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: James on June 19, 2010, 10:59:09 AM
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I'm in the process of modifying a HP Halifax. I'm planning on doing it as a Coastal Command GR.II, but with a difference.... it's having a nose job.

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Yep, the nose off a B-25H, - thats 4x .50cals and the 75mm.  :wacko:

The fit looks quite good (only a bit of work needed). What do you guys think? It's not too daft is it?  :blink:
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: Mossie on June 19, 2010, 11:06:15 AM
Daft is allowed, but that seems like a reasonable armament to me for anti U-Boat ops.
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: Cliffy B on June 19, 2010, 12:43:11 PM
The 75mm was found to not be too useful on the B-25s given their size.  Might fair better on the Halifax though.  Anyone ever given any thought to packing the nose with a pair of 40mm Bofors?  They make them aftermarket for PT-Boats in large scales.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: Army of One on June 19, 2010, 12:51:31 PM
I think the twin 40mm would be cool......why not the old Airfix bofors....is it cheaper than after market one?? You going for cheek blister pod .50's or launcher for 4x60lb rockets? I think the Coastal Command libs had some rocket mounts.....I'm sure I'm not talking rubbish......I should have looked first before posting....H
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: Captain Canada on June 19, 2010, 01:03:17 PM
I think it's an awesome idea ! Large a/c in Coastal Command have always intrigued me....how do you plan on painting her ?

:wub:
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: GTX on June 19, 2010, 01:51:33 PM
Great idea - in fact you could probably to twin 75mm mounts!

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 19, 2010, 03:08:17 PM
The hell with it, stick a 25 pdr in there!  -_- ;D
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: kitnut617 on June 19, 2010, 03:28:55 PM
I like it  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
It goes along with the idea I have of a Coastal Command Hampden with four MG's in the nose and two 40mm's in the bomb bay, sort of Mosquito style.
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: James on June 19, 2010, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: Army of One on June 19, 2010, 12:51:31 PM
.....You going for cheek blister pod .50's or launcher for 4x60lb rockets? I think the Coastal Command libs had some rocket mounts.....

I was thinking of 8x 60lb rockets. I suppose you could have depth charges or torpedoes in the bay, and some early sonar buoys in the wing bomb cells.

Quote from: Captain Canada on June 19, 2010, 01:03:17 PM
I think it's an awesome idea ! Large a/c in Coastal Command have always intrigued me....how do you plan on painting her ?

:wub:

Not sure yet. Any suggestions would be good. Maybe Mediterranean/Middle East theatre? SEAC?
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: Mossie on June 19, 2010, 05:22:32 PM
I've seen a colour callout on Don Color for a scheme on Beauforts & Beaufighters of Dark Mediterranean Blue/Light Mediterranean Blue over Azure or Light Mediterranean Blue.  I've never seen any other mention of this scheme.  Would look very different.
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: NARSES2 on June 20, 2010, 02:14:05 AM
Quote from: James on June 19, 2010, 04:00:00 PM
[I was thinking of 8x 60lb rockets. I suppose you could have depth charges or torpedoes in the bay, and some early sonar buoys in the wing bomb cells.

SEAC?


Sounds good and any mention of SEAC makes me go all  :blink: :wub: Only problem is would it have anyone to "play" with

Quote from: Mossie on June 19, 2010, 05:22:32 PM
I've seen a colour callout on Don Color for a scheme on Beauforts & Beaufighters of Dark Mediterranean Blue/Light Mediterranean Blue over Azure or Light Mediterranean Blue.  I've never seen any other mention of this scheme.  Would look very different.

I've seen something similar mentioned but I think it was on RAF (Greek) Marylands ?
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: GTX on June 20, 2010, 11:24:32 PM
Quote from: James on June 19, 2010, 04:00:00 PM

I was thinking of 8x 60lb rockets. I suppose you could have depth charges or torpedoes in the bay, and some early sonar buoys in the wing bomb cells.


Add in the rockets like the RAF Liberators used:
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Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: dogsbody on June 22, 2010, 11:32:03 AM
Why not a couple of 6pdrs. in the nose.
If a Mosquito could take a single, a Halifax could surely carry two.
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: James on June 23, 2010, 03:32:36 AM
I'm struggling to think of a place to mount the 60lb rockets, so I may scrap that idea.  I was thinking of putting 4x 20mm Hispano Mk. II cannon under the nose (from a Canberra), and as stated, the proximity of the wing and engines to the nose is a problem. Must have had a few too many when I came up with this idea...  :drink:

But, it is armed with:

1x 75mm cannon,
4x 20mm cannon,
4x .50cals,
8x .303cals (Dorsal and tail turrets)

As well as the toys in the bay.

Should be enough to ruin the day of any enemy sailor/submariner....  :wacko:
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: Army of One on June 23, 2010, 04:04:42 AM
Ha! GTX Greg to the rescue.....thats what I meant....4 rockets each side or blister pack .50's........I say ROCKETS.....that would look cool..... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: kitnut617 on June 23, 2010, 05:26:08 AM
Quote from: GTX on June 20, 2010, 11:24:32 PM

Add in the rockets like the RAF Liberators used:
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Regards,

Greg

I've got a 1/72 resin set of those for one of my Libs, Pavla makes them IIRC
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: dogsbody on June 23, 2010, 07:10:51 AM
Quote from: James on June 23, 2010, 03:32:36 AM
I'm struggling to think of a place to mount the 60lb rockets, so I may scrap that idea.  I was thinking of putting 4x 20mm Hispano Mk. II cannon under the nose (from a Canberra), and as stated, the proximity of the wing and engines to the nose is a problem. Must have had a few too many when I came up with this idea...  :drink:

But, it is armed with:

1x 75mm cannon,
4x 20mm cannon,
4x .50cals,
8x .303cals (Dorsal and tail turrets)

As well as the toys in the bay.

Should be enough to ruin the day of any enemy sailor/submariner....  :wacko:



Are you going to mount the 4X20mm cannon like this:

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Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: James on June 23, 2010, 04:16:51 PM
That's the plan.  ;D
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: jcf on June 24, 2010, 09:44:41 AM
A dual 40mm 'S' gun mounting was schemed for the Wellington and would work on the Halifax.

Drawing from 21st Profile Vol.1, No. 3.

jon
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: MAD on June 24, 2010, 05:47:08 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on June 24, 2010, 09:44:41 AM
A dual 40mm 'S' gun mounting was schemed for the Wellington and would work on the Halifax.

Drawing from 21st Profile Vol.1, No. 3.

jon

The 75mm and 25-pounder would be ok for anti-shipping - but as for anti-submarine work, these weapons are to slow in firing-rate.
That`s the way to go Jon!
40mm - Hard hitting, quick firing and with a good stand off performance!

M.A.D
Title: Re: Coastal Command Halifax with a punch.....
Post by: PR19_Kit on June 25, 2010, 01:58:17 AM
With all this heavy ordnance firing from the poor old Lib, you better kit it out with MUCH bigger engines or it will stop flying when the gunner pulls the tigger!  :lol: ;D