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GROUP BUILDS => 2010 Group Builds => The Knackers Yard => Alt. Luftwaffe GB => Topic started by: Spey_Phantom on April 12, 2010, 06:07:02 AM

Title: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Spey_Phantom on April 12, 2010, 06:07:02 AM
inspiration hit me last night for this one, i know its a little late in the GB, but i think i can make it  :rolleyes:
last night i was thinking "What if Germany gad its own long-range escort fighter/interceptor to replace the Bf110"

the idea i came up with utilises a single Revell 1/72 FW Flitzer and 2 1/72 FW190's. although i already have 1 flitzer and 2 FW190's in stash, i cant start as the 2 190's are not similar (1 is a revell FW190F-8 and the other an academy 190A-6, they are to different in both type and size) so im gonna get another revell FW190F-8 this weekend to reduce complications, until then im first gonna finish a number of builds that are currently on the bench (already have to many projects going on ATM).

the aircraft i powered by a pair of BMW radial engines and a single Jumo 004 jet engine for high altitude or emergency war power  :rolleyes:

to give you an impression of the design, here's a quick profile  :mellow:
would look nice with a pair of bombs and rockets under the wings  ;D
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Ed S on April 12, 2010, 06:16:29 AM
Sounds promising.   Looking forward to seeing this in plastic.

Ed
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: GTX on April 12, 2010, 11:32:47 AM
Very promising!!!

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 13, 2010, 08:25:35 AM
Hot damn, but that's cool! (https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi107.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm309%2FChernayaAkula%2FEmoticons%2Fukliam2.gif&hash=7b67f0c42d5bdec767ded71bc80749c9459dd6ad) Dreizack is a very fitting name!
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Taiidantomcat on April 13, 2010, 05:05:35 PM
Whoa!  :o
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: puddingwrestler on April 13, 2010, 08:08:49 PM
You are insane. I like it.
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Cliffy B on April 13, 2010, 08:14:51 PM
Sick!  Only suggestion would be to move the center fuselage up high enough so that the cockpit is above the 2 radials.  Would improve visibility immensely.  Just a thought though, can't wait to see this one either!  Any ideas on camo yet?
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Spey_Phantom on April 17, 2010, 02:46:22 AM
on terms of camoflage, i dont know yet, might make it a desert camo's bird.
as for visibility, im gonna look into canting the inner parts of the wings downwards, might work to.

anyway, i just gor back from the model shop and bought the second revell FW190 kit for the build, so that means plastic cutting can start at any moment. its going to have to be a rushjob, as the deadline is in 2 weeks time (unless there is an extension  :mellow:)

pics to follow  ;D
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: GTX on April 17, 2010, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: Nils on April 17, 2010, 02:46:22 AM
on terms of camoflage, i dont know yet, might make it a desert camo's bird.


What about something appropriate as a long range escort for Fw-200 Condors in their anti-shipping role?

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Spey_Phantom on April 18, 2010, 06:13:53 AM
here's an update :D

yesterday, fuselage and wing number 1 was put together, a pretty straight forward jub, nothing fancy.
one side of the wing was sawn off as to meet it with the fuselage of the flitzer.

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second was to close up the area where the cockpit usually is, nothing a little piece of plasticard and putty cant do  ;D
now comes the long and frustrating process of PSR, and it takes extra time as the revell putty doesnt dry that fast  :rolleyes:

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Today, started the same treatment to the second fuselage,
to give you a good insight of the basic design, here's a quick dry-fit.
i think she might make a good escort fighter for the Amerika-bomber, because of the extra feul she can carry in the cockpit section of the FW190 like engine booms  :mellow:

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Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 18, 2010, 06:49:46 AM
This is gonna be good!  :party:
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: beowulf on April 18, 2010, 06:58:53 AM
now that shows promise.....looking forward to seeing how it turns out  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: pyro-manic on April 19, 2010, 01:21:21 PM
This is sexy.... :wub:
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: buzzbomb on April 19, 2010, 05:52:11 PM
yes, yes, yes!

love this concept. :wub:
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Spey_Phantom on April 24, 2010, 01:35:34 PM
got another update

last night i started on the cockpit, main instrument panel painted and decaled soon after
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the inside of the cockpit, painted up.
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assembly and painting of the cockpit
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and here is how she looked this morning, cockpit build and fitted, fuselage and wings gleud together.
the problem was that the space between the booms was to wide to fit the tailplane of the flitzer, so i cut out a piece of 1mm thick plasticard and sanded to down to an aerodynamic tail section. tomorrow im gonna start filling the gaps in the wings, fit the landing gear, hardpoints for bombs and maybe (if i still have time left) a first layer of paint.

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Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: sotoolslinger on April 24, 2010, 02:06:46 PM
That gives me plastic wood :wub: :thumbsup: :party: :bow:
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Spey_Phantom on April 25, 2010, 04:09:09 AM
as i was looking at the fuselage, it was clear that the jet engine would never work unless it got an intake.
but there was no room in the wingroots as the bombracks are fitted there, so i cut op a spare feultank from a italeri 1/72 eurofighter, and fitted it under the fuselage, f-16 style  ;D

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the nosegear of the flitzer had no use, so made it shut and PSRed it. i was planning to fit a 50mm Mauser cannon in the nose, but the short and droopy nose of the flitzer kinda makes it impossible to fit one n there. (got the idea from a me262C)

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props, radials, spinners and bombs have been painted and are now drying.

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and i just finished fitting the landinggear under the wings, i know its gonna look a bit wide, but think of it as the aircraft being capable of airlaunching gliding V1's  :lol:

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Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Taiidantomcat on April 25, 2010, 09:07:59 AM
That is sooo COOL!!  :wub:
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: GTX on April 25, 2010, 12:32:56 PM
You could replace the jet with a tail gun.

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Spey_Phantom on May 02, 2010, 01:55:19 AM
with the extension till the 16th, i now have the chance to complete my dreizack (witch means "Trident" btw).

the bombs and the landing gear are fitted, tailwheels still need to be painted  <_<

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canopy painted and placed  :mellow:

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and the coat of desert yellow has been applied, green olive speckles are gonna be painted on as soon as its dry  :mellow:
kinda looks like that conair seaplane from talespin in this color  :lol:

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im still trying to think of a good back story though...
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Cobra on May 02, 2010, 02:05:22 AM
How About saying it was a Special Project Ordered by Goering to Try & Stop Allied Bombers from Hitting Berlin before the downfall? that Work For You? Dan
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: NARSES2 on May 02, 2010, 02:42:57 AM
Paint has really brought that together  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Spey_Phantom on May 02, 2010, 07:43:36 AM
SIE IST KLAHR  ;D

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Back History:

in 1942, the Luftwaffe began seeking a new aircraft to replace the Bf110 in the interceptor role, but at the same time to replace the Stuka in the dive bombing and Close Air Support roles. Focke Wulf presented its design P.200 to the RLM in august of 1943. to save money in production costs, it proposed to use over 70 percent equal components that was used in the FW190 fighter. the engine that were integrated into the tailbooms were infact based on the FW190 standard airframe, but had there cockpits remove in order to accomodate more fuel. between the 2 booms was a fuselage with a single Jumo 004 jet engine, this was designed to give the aircraft extra power on take-off, a higher interception speed and the ability to escape the combatzone in case the aircrafts BMW radial engines got damaged.

the RLM approved the design and the first prototype of the now renamed FW 220A-1, took to the skies in june of 1944. the aircraft had acceptional performance and and a huge acceleration rate. the only downside was that the quite wide undercariage required the aircraft to take off from quite a wide runway. however, there was also an advantage to this configuration. it was more forgiving for pilots who land the aircraft quite roughly and the huge open space meant large and wide payloads, including glider versions of the V1 bomb bould be carried under the fuselage. the luftwaffe was very pleaed with the aircrafts overall performance and over 398 were build.

in august 1944, the first 2 fighter squadrons, JG5 and JG56 became operational with the new fighter. the aircraft were quite succesfull as interceptors, shooting down over 560 allied bombers. on high altitude, it ever outperformed the American P-38 and P-40 and the british DH Mosquito.

the FW220's claim to fame was mostly made in the African desert, taking off from airfields in Italy, its tast was to provide air support for advancing german troops. for this role, Focke Wulf build a specialised ground attack version of the aircraft, the FW 220A-2. modifications included inert bomb pylons for 2 250kg bombs and provisions to mount 5 rockets under each wing, witch made the aircraft a flying artilery unit. the FW220A-2 proved itself a succes and stayed in service until the withdrawal from the African campaign in 1945, when the aircraft were recalled to defend the reich.

in april of 1945, with Hitlers plans to attack and invade the United States, Focke Wulf created the FW220D-5, a high performance long range escort fighter to protect the new advanced "Amerika Bomber". this version had 4 20 mm guns fitted between the fuselage & wings, had a radar, a seond seat for the radar operator and was to be equiped with the ruhrstahl X-4 Air ot Air Missile. unfortunatly, it never got further then the drawing board as the German Empire capitulated only a few months later.

and now the model:

i painted it up in desert camo with the markings of SG4, based in Piacenza, Italy in 1945.
decdals and markings are from the Revell FW190F-8, but since the decals (especialy the white ones) are quite transparent, i had to use them in 2 layers (good thing i had 2 190's and therefor 2 decal sheets).

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Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: hurricanemk1c on May 02, 2010, 08:36:05 AM
Superb!
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Taiidantomcat on May 02, 2010, 08:56:41 AM
Looks like a deadly warplane  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Weaver on May 02, 2010, 09:55:18 AM
You know I really wasn't sure about this when you started it , but it looks great now - well done: you've got a good eye!  :thumbsup: :drink:
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: lancer on May 02, 2010, 12:25:37 PM
Awsome!! No other word for it.
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: sotoolslinger on May 02, 2010, 12:44:43 PM
Very cool :thumbsup: :wub:
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: ChernayaAkula on May 02, 2010, 01:11:50 PM
Awe - frickin' - some!  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  The plane, the camo, the backstory - everything!  :bow:
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Ed S on May 02, 2010, 06:21:22 PM
Well done Nils.  Very creative mixing of different a/c.   

:thumbsup:

Ed
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: NARSES2 on May 03, 2010, 02:56:59 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: late bloomer: Focke Wulf FW220 Dreizack
Post by: Tophe on May 08, 2010, 10:43:07 PM
Belated congratulations, for both the imaginative design and the modeller's job. :thumbsup:
Just a question: what about the tailplane in the jet flame? is the central part of the tailplane in titanium or else to resist heat? :huh: