Okay, well with the recent upsurge of interest in ship whiffs, how about a Ship GB?
I'd suggest a dead simple and open "encourager" GB along the lines of the Armour GB. Two rules:
1. It must be a ship or boat, i.e. a vehicle designed to operate on water the majority of the time. Seaplanes not allowed. Hovercraft...hmmmm. Mods discretion, I think.
2. It must be a whiff.
Well i would be up for that, although i suspect the majority of the forum won't consider it.
;D
G
I dunno, I might be up for it! I don't know much about ships but I've always been interested, being involved in a GB might help me get a little background.
Ther've been other GBs that had limited participation, but still produced good models. Maybe run it at the same tims as another "minority interest" one, such as figures or cars?
I would maybe see how much interest you get? Several ship builders seem to have 'come out of the closet' since a forum was opened for them.
As for criteria, maybe 'surface vessels' in general. This could include Ekranoplans, depending on how strict you wanted to run it?
I'm in!
Quote from: Mossie on October 08, 2009, 06:06:10 AM
I dunno, I might be up for it! I don't know much about ships but I've always been interested, being involved in a GB might help me get a little background.
That might be a good thing - you don't know what you are not supposed to do, so you can come up with any amount of crazyness, without a shred of nautical practicality to stop you!!
I'd say hovercraft and ekranoplan would be in, just to provide feet-getting-wet capacity in this case, though I would suggest that they be whiffed airframes potentially.
I wouldn't mind a Ship GB. Of course, I'm a ship whiffer and I've always been out of the closet about it. I think in some cases, the forum opening up gave us a place to congregate the small demographic (of the three Military Media, we're rather the smallest) and it made us more visible. I've been working on clearing up desk space and listening to that voice in my head telling me to finish projects, so I should have plenty of desk soon.
Just started another one myself. ;D
I just wet-sanded my Through Deck Spruance's flight deck tonight and realized how many projects I actually still want to complete, so I'm all for at least trying to finish something. ;)
My interest in aircraft has dried up a little of late, but I have a few ideas for naval builds, so I'd be interested in this one.
I would be in...but my experience with ships is rather limited...i would probably take a lot of time to do the big 1/350 ships i have. I like the idea of making it water based, could include Amphib tanks, Naval Infanty, and Marines,(provided they operate in water no F-18s) ... I know that is a bit of a stretch but It would be cool:
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AAV-7
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The AAAV! The USMCs latest whif! (They canceled the program :banghead:)
Quote from: Taiidantomcat on October 09, 2009, 10:17:06 AM
I would be in...but my experience with ships is rather limited...i would probably take a lot of time to do the big 1/350 ships i have. I like the idea of making it water based, could include Amphib tanks, Naval Infanty, and Marines,(provided they operate in water no F-18s) ... I know that is a bit of a stretch but It would be cool:
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AAV-7
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The AAAV! The USMCs latest whif! (They canceled the program :banghead:)
I already talked with Saur about a Soviet Sub Idea i have. :cheers:
i ammin also I have a fleet of 1/600 royal navy ships on the drawing board
Quote from: Taiidantomcat on October 09, 2009, 10:17:06 AM
I would be in...but my experience with ships is rather limited...i would probably take a lot of time to do the big 1/350 ships i have. I like the idea of making it water based, could include Amphib tanks, Naval Infanty, and Marines,(provided they operate in water no F-18s) ... I know that is a bit of a stretch but It would be cool:
How about this: amphibious vehicles are in, providing that they're designed for open sea operations (i.e. amphibious landings) not just inland water crossings? So LVTP-7s, whose design is conditioned by "boat" considerations, are in, but an M-113 with it's trim vane erected doesn't count. Of course, you could
whiff the M-113 into an open-sea vehicle, by adding lots more buoyancy and a serious prop/water jet system. IIRC, Brazil did exactly that, although it never went into production. The Indonesian Marines also have a sea-landing AMX-10P version, with reduced weaponry, extra buoyancy and powerful water jets.
I like that weaver, sounds fair.
Can air carriers, land battlecruisers and flying battleships admited in this idea?
Allow this GB to go crazy! :thumbsup:
Quote from: ysi_maniac on April 21, 2010, 11:43:41 AM
Can air carriers, land battlecruisers and flying battleships admited in this idea?
Allow this GB to go crazy! :thumbsup:
Yes, please do this. I have a whole passle full of crazy to unleash. ;D
I'm in, let's do it!!!! I have so many ship whiff ideas it's insane!
I was thinking about proposing a flying battleship idea but maybe it could be incorporated in this build????
The more I think about it, the more I think it might not be a bad idea to break off the crazy ship build into something else. Don't get me wrong, i have a ton of ideas for both, but I also don't think there's anything wrong with ships getting their own build, and flying battleships getting something similar.
I really think flying battleships, airship battleships, space battleships and land battleships shouldn't be included in this one, but should either have their own GB, or be incorporated in other suitable GBs. For instance most flying battleship concepts would fall comfortably within a Steampunk or Dieselpunk GB, space battleships in a sci-fi one, and I think there's already a "landships" one isn't there?
Agreed. I'm off to go make some suggestions. ;)
Quote from: Weaver on April 22, 2010, 06:31:33 AM
I really think flying battleships, airship battleships, space battleships and land battleships shouldn't be included in this one, but should either have their own GB, or be incorporated in other suitable GBs. For instance most flying battleship concepts would fall comfortably within a Steampunk or Dieselpunk GB, space battleships in a sci-fi one, and I think there's already a "landships" one isn't there?
Fair call!.
I have an old Arizona kit that I am thinking of making into a aircraft carrier
Somewhere int he stash I have Revell's 1:131 Defiance (i think) gunboat of box scale-ness which has always been slated for the San Tortan navy, but never been gotten round to building. Might have to pull it out. Also wouldn't mind a San Tortan submarine.
Hmmmm... I wonder what the Duchy of Zoltravia uses for a Navy... I'm sure they havge some large lakes to guard!
Does anyone know the name?
It's a Royal Navy monitor isn't it? Something like Cerberus or Erebus......
Edit: Erebus or Terror.
I think you are right but I do not know how many monitor Royal Navy had during WWII. Anyhow the monitor concept interests me as modeller. Where can I find info about this kind of warships?
Quote from: ysi_maniac on May 27, 2010, 05:21:14 AM
I think you are right but I do not know how many monitor Royal Navy had during WWII. Anyhow the monitor concept interests me as modeller. Where can I find info about this kind of warships?
Loads of info on Wikipedia. Follow links from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erebus_class_monitor
Here's a book about it (dare say you could find it cheaper with a proper search) http://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/?product_id=1588 Note that you can browse the book through this screen.
IIRC, Conway's Eclipse of the Big Gun has a decent section on monitors, which is why I know about them: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eclipse-Big-Gun-Warship-1906-1945/dp/0851779530 (this book is well worth having).
IIRC, the US had a few as well, but only as late as WW1. And then, they were mostly Sub Tenders.
There were at least two other Monitors in use by the Royal Navy in WWII, the Roberts Class:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberts_class_monitor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberts_class_monitor)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Roberts_%28F40%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Roberts_%28F40%29)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Abercrombie_%28F109%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Abercrombie_%28F109%29)
There were quite a few more from WWI. White Ensign have recently done models of both of the Roberts Class in 1/350.
Found a build on Steel Navy of a Combrig Models 1/700 HMS Roberts:
http://www.steelnavy.com/CombrigRobertsDB.htm (http://www.steelnavy.com/CombrigRobertsDB.htm)
EDIT, Whoops! Got the wrong link, should go to the build article now.
List of Royal Navy monitors:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monitors_of_the_Royal_Navy
Three of the WWI monitors were converted to carry single, fixed Eighteen Inch guns :blink: taken from HMS Furious:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_General_Wolfe
Strewth, that 18 inch gun on the 'General Wolfe' looks like they put a 1/350 scale turret on a 1/700 scale hull!
It must have been AWESOME to see, and hear, it fire! :o
Come on guys!!!! The poll for the 2011 GBs is up and you all need to go and vote for the Ship GB NOW!!!!! Its time for something different, its time to build floaty things!!! We've all built enough wingy things for a good long time and it time for something else.
In the words of Arnie, "DO IT!! DO IT NOW!!!!!!"
This one needs a lot of love. Currently in 6th or so place, and about to go away forever.
Make Posiedon happy this holiday season. Vote early, vote often, VOTE SHIPS! :thumbsup:
Voted for this one. might or might not take part, but I'd like to see it for something different. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Mossie on December 20, 2010, 01:14:11 PM
Voted for this one. might or might not take part, but I'd like to see it for something different. :thumbsup:
ditto.............i do have something that i have had planned for about 9 months that i just need prompting to get on with ;D
Hope this gets going I had an inspiration the other day while flicking through a ship modelling magazine.
I have a few ideas lined up, some wacky, some interesting, some just odd. :wacko:
Saw one of these in Modelzone. Thought provoking (not least for the Pirate GB)....... :wacko:
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http://www.revell.com/model-kits/ships/85-0328.html
I got just one question with the ship GB:
Are shipbucket profiles allowed?
Just wondering.
Quote from: Fulcrum on February 10, 2011, 11:22:04 PM
I got just one question with the ship GB:
Are shipbucket profiles allowed?
Just wondering.
Sure you can use a shipbucket image as a basis for actual build :thumbsup:.
In terms of submission as entry for the GB i personally don't think they should allowed, this afterall is a Modelling site, Ship bucket has its own websiite and forum which actively encourages project and what-if designs.
G
Quote from: Fulcrum on February 10, 2011, 11:22:04 PM
I got just one question with the ship GB:
Are shipbucket profiles allowed?
Just wondering.
I would imagine that will be up to the moderator who eventually controls this GB and sets the rules.
Regards,
Greg
Big Gun Monitors by Ian Buxton is very good.
Of course their were paddle wheeled aircraft carriers ;D
perfect for that WHIF Confederates versus Union scenario
Any idea if and when the GB will be getting going
I really hope this one is a go as I've had an epiphany moment. I'll be making HMS Lion (Modernized) and HMS...something or other, that's a coastal battelship armed with 8 x 14" guns.
We'll see about it next month perhaps, as the two highest ranking GBs have now kicked off, and i know some of the gang may be doing Ships for those group builds. We may have to run it alongside one of the others as there is also the Space theme that ranked highly but like ships is more of a niche aspect of modelling when compared to aircraft and AFV modelling.
I will certainly be taking part in the Ship GB and already have a build lined up inspired by TomP & Proditor :thumbsup:.
Cheers
Geoff
Will land battleships and flying carriers be allowed here?
I have an idea and am itching to create HMS Scorpio and it will have nothing to do with the Zodiac
Can you give us more info? :rolleyes:
Quote from: ysi_maniac on February 25, 2011, 07:35:03 AM
Will land battleships and flying carriers be allowed here?
It's not my GB, but I believe it was previously stipulated that this would be for wet-navy builds.
But my ideas are in fact amphibious ;D
What's the turning circle on that thing?
^^^^
The turning circle of a battleship or a carrier, obviously ;).
It will be a ASW aircraft / Auto Gyro carrier to help close the mid atlantic gap.
Another idea:
What if Bismarck, after sinking HMS Hood and HMS Prince of Wales :o , manages to return to motherland and there damages and some failures are fixed. Particularly a transom stern, correctly protecting rudder and screws. Taking advance, main battery is upgraded: 3 turrets x 3 guns each, same calibre.
I've been trying to figure out what I want to do for this...and today, perusing a magazine at a store, it hit me ( in the form a a photo ). A new ice-breaking patrol ship, as propsed for the CDN navy. Now, what to buy to start with....
:cheers:
Sandiego's using the old Revell 1/300 USS Burton kit in the '46 build:
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,31464.0.html
Ark Models do a 1/400 Russian icebreaker kit:
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/ARK40002
Hasegawa 1/350 Soya
http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/misc/ships/j/spahrsoya.htm
Quote from: ysi_maniac on March 02, 2011, 11:04:30 AM
Another idea:
What if Bismarck, after sinking HMS Hood and HMS Prince of Wales :o , manages to return to motherland and there damages and some failures are fixed. Particularly a transom stern, correctly protecting rudder and screws. Taking advance, main battery is upgraded: 3 turrets x 3 guns each, same calibre.
Might be tricky to do that turret change, as the barbettes would need to be ripped out and replaced - very major work. Likewise rebuilding the stern and altering the rudder and propeller shaft layout would require massive work, essentially ripping out the entire engineering section of the ship. A better option would be an "improved Bismarck-class", built to a revised design.
You'd probably find Bismarck would have been in a similar situation to Tirpitz had she made it back to Germany - trapped in or close to harbour for the rest of the war, and subject to regular attacks from bombers and submarines.
Quote from: Mossie on March 02, 2011, 01:23:24 PM
Ark Models do a 1/400 Russian icebreaker kit:
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/ARK40002
I assume this is, in fact, the old Heller's Lenin. I can recommend it
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/misc/icebreaker/lenin-400-aa/aa-index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin_%28nuclear_icebreaker%29
Yet another idea: British Pocket Battle Cruiser
Take the Airfix Belfast, delete main turrets and put a pair of 15in twin turrets from a Hood or Warspite. Love this :wub:
OR
Cross kit the Airfix Belfast and Devonshire to produce a post-war missile cruiser refit. Keep A and B turrets, replace all the 4" with two 4.5" Mk.6 and two Seacats, and make a completely new rear superstructure with a Seaslug magazine inside it, the launcher behind it, and the Type 901 tracker on top of it.
Quote from: ysi_maniac on March 02, 2011, 11:04:30 AM
Another idea:
What if Bismarck, after sinking HMS Hood and HMS Prince of Wales :o , manages to return to motherland and there damages and some failures are fixed. Particularly a transom stern, correctly protecting rudder and screws. Taking advance, main battery is upgraded: 3 turrets x 3 guns each, same calibre.
Something like this:
This can inspire too.
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,31762.0.html
Another project a would start with a Bismarck base :thumbsup: http://bit.ly/hExoPT
A Belfast-based missile cruiser would be rather nifty. I don't think she'd take a pair of 15" turrets though - she was a classic cruiser design, with a very fine slender hull. You'd have to give her some big bulges to make her stable enough for heavy guns, which would slow her down quite a bit. I think you could easily upgun her with twin 8" turrets though, from something like the Exeter class. That would make for a pretty good heavy cruiser. You might even get away with some of the two-gun 14" turrets from the KGV class battleships. Two or three of those might be plausible, with much-reduced armour on the turrets to save weight.
Okay start getting your ideas together and sourcing your parts as were looking to fire this Group Build next month when the Secret Santa is scheduled to finish.
Details about the rules for the Group Build will be posted up in the near future once the rules have been finalised and apporved, but thought i should give people a heads up to start thinking of ideas.
For those not willing to get their feet wet, we are also considering running the VTOL GB during the same time frame, once you have finished off your 1946 and Africa builds that is :thumbsup:.
Geoff
The Admin Team
WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :party:
Quote from: Thorvic on April 19, 2011, 03:06:47 PM
Okay start getting your ideas together and sourcing your parts as were looking to fire this Group Build next month when the Secret Santa is scheduled to finish.
Details about the rule the Group Build will be posted up in the near future once the rules have been finalised and apporved, but thought i should give people a heads up to start thinking of ideas.
For those not willing to get their feet wet, we are also considering running the VTOL GB during the same time frame, once you have finished off your 1946 and Africa builds that is :thumbsup:.
Geoff
The Admin Team
Well explained!! :thumbsup:
ooh my idea for a ship might qualify for the VTOL build aswell. One of it's associated itmes rather than the ship itself.
Quote from: tigercat on April 20, 2011, 09:09:01 AM
ooh my idea for a ship might qualify for the VTOL build aswell. One of it's associated itmes rather than the ship itself.
That did cross my mind when looking at the SCS master i'm working on !!
Well I did say I wasn't going to do any GBs this year, but since I proposed this in the first place, it'd be rude not to, wouldn't it? Possibilities will be limited to stuff I've already got, since buying things is OFF the agenda unless the job situation changes:
1. Type 84 destroyer: Type 82 (HMS Bristol) on steroids for a "richer Britain" timeline, basically. Has double-ended Sea Dart with four trackers and Ikara in the middle or on the quarterdeck. Got a cheap Spruance for the hull, two Type 42s and an Invincible to chop up, so that should cover it....
2. Proper Type 21: Airfix's 1/600th Amazon (Vosper Mk.8 ) scaleorama'd to 1/700th to make a Royal Navy equivalent of Brazil's Niterois (Vosper Mk.10).
I've done my "1946 GB" entry (He-1062 Molch), and may enjoy the change of pace to a ship after my "Twin-engined Zero" is done (May). So in about a month I will be ready for a new project. The Yonaga will be a small-scale (1/2000??) aircraft carrier based on my favorite "To Victory Through Seapower" (Furashita's Fleet) IJN carrier game piece :
http://www.combinedfleet.com/furashita/yonaga_f.htm
I have some odd-scale small-scale ship kits that might be persuaded to mangle themselves into this ship. An old Pyro "Table Top Navy" Shokaku kit, a Heller 1/1600 Arromanche, and some Bandai Akagi, Shokaku, Yamato, and Illustrious kits, too!
Thinking cap *ON*!
Quote from: Overkiller on April 20, 2011, 02:30:28 PM
I think I may just throw my hat into the ring for this GB. I've never built a ship before, so this would be the perfect excuse to try my hand at one.
I have only built two or three in all my years, one of the things that is exicting about this GB is folks stepping out of their comfort zones. It will be very fun to watch, and there should be a lot of ship gurus here to help us new people as well. How do you mask a ship anyway :unsure:
:cheers:
Okay moved the original propasal discussion to the Group Build section so as to make it easier to refer to :thumbsup:
So I shall dive into the collection to see what new ideas can come out of there.
Well, I'd do my USS Guadalcanal as a RN version, sent to replace Invincible if she'd been lost in the Falklands, but I can't find 1/600 aircraft, especially Harriers.
I find I have a Scharnhorst, and a Z class DD without the bridge, and am trying to think of ideas for it. I've done a 1980s Prinz Eugen, a Deutchland captured and upgraded by the USN, a Tirpitz in the IJN, and a Graf Zeppelin in Soviet service. What's left to do? Maybe a Free German Navy version? Or perhaps French post-WW2, if I can find the proper weapons in 1/700? Or... :unsure:
Joe
Tumbling Dice do wargaming 1/600 aircraft whish should be up your street. their website is being rebuilt but their US supplier appears to have their stuff:-
http://www.brookhursthobbies.com/Product-Listing.cfm?C=4&D=1302&N=10&S=&M=TUMBLING DICE&SD=AIRCRAFT - POST WWII BRITISH/EUROPEAN (http://www.brookhursthobbies.com/Product-Listing.cfm?C=4&D=1302&N=10&S=&M=TUMBLING%20DICE&SD=AIRCRAFT%20-%20POST%20WWII%20BRITISH/EUROPEAN)
As for the Z class why don't you do it post war with a RN style Type 15 conversion applied to it as part of the reformed West German Navy.
Cheers
Geoff
Good news and bad news:
Good news is I've got a new job, Bad news is I'm going to be WAY busy for an indeterminate time. Might have to give the GB a miss, or might have to go with something less ambitious - we shall see.
Alright gents, would you object to me entering a build that I will also be entering into a GB over on modelwarships? Both GBs have commenced but the kit remains un-started. It is a 1950's (Korean War fit) of the USS North Carolina (BB-55). I came across some literature about how BuShips would have re-fit the class if reactivated (alas, no drawings) so I'd like to enter her if its OK with you guys.
Second question, I began scratch building a ship for the '46 GB but I will not be able to finish it in time. It was a USCG Icebreaker/Gunboat. I only got as far as shaping and priming the hull. If its OK, I'd like to shift it to this GB.
Please let me know what you decide gents.
-Mike
Ok to both as far as i'm concerned, the idea is to get people building ships and if that means ones stuck in dry dock then thats fine by me. :thumbsup:
Thorvic - thank you to the pointer to those aircraft. I'd like to do the Guadalcanal as the mine sweeping edition of the USS Inchon, though they don't make H-53s. (Yet. Maybe I'll ask.)
No problem Joe :thumbsup:. We really need Pitroad/Trumpeter to convert their waveline resin Iwo Jima into an injection moulded kit much as they did with the Blue Ridge as it would be nice to see those LPHs produced and they could be sold in 60s' or 90s fit, as Assault, SCS or Minesweeping formats.
Z-class post war Kriegsmarine - interesting. I'll have to see what bits and pieces are lying around that are about that era.
As for the Scharnhorst... Perhaps an alternate reality... Free German Navy. No, wait - the Dutch Navy planned to build a similar ship. The project 1047! Aha! Scharnhorst, with twin funnels, RN light weapons and electronics, sent to the Pacific so as not to be mixed up with her Nazi look-alikes. Aircraft? Colours? I need my Dulin & Garske! Woo hoo!
DO IT JOE!!! DO IT!!!!!!!!! Give me a time frame you'd like to depict and I can help with camo and aircraft.
If I wasn't into my latest insanity like you have no idea (one-man Space GB), I'd soooo be up for this, if only to finish the fleet I've had under construction for the last few years.
Quote from: Thorvic on May 10, 2011, 10:22:12 PM
No problem Joe :thumbsup:. We really need Pitroad/Trumpeter to convert their waveline resin Iwo Jima into an injection moulded kit much as they did with the Blue Ridge as it would be nice to see those LPHs produced and they could be sold in 60s' or 90s fit, as Assault, SCS or Minesweeping formats.
Or sold to allied nations operating AV-8C's somehow made to work in the 21st century.
Ah, to dream...
Quote from: Captain Canada on March 02, 2011, 12:55:50 PM
I've been trying to figure out what I want to do for this...and today, perusing a magazine at a store, it hit me ( in the form a a photo ). A new ice-breaking patrol ship, as propsed for the CDN navy. Now, what to buy to start with....
:cheers:
Yeah, really late to the party here...
Over at Shipbucket, there's a guy doing a Alt Hist Canadian Navy with CG's, bigger DDG's, and even an ice-breaking frigate for polar ops. Rather nice design in my opinion. Danged if I can find it right now...
Quote from: anthonyp on May 19, 2011, 06:11:55 PM
Quote from: Thorvic on May 10, 2011, 10:22:12 PM
No problem Joe :thumbsup:. We really need Pitroad/Trumpeter to convert their waveline resin Iwo Jima into an injection moulded kit much as they did with the Blue Ridge as it would be nice to see those LPHs produced and they could be sold in 60s' or 90s fit, as Assault, SCS or Minesweeping formats.
Or sold to allied nations operating AV-8C's somehow made to work in the 21st century.
Ah, to dream...
Dutch, Argentina, Chile, Brasil, Canada, Australia, India, Japan, are all navies I've considered for operating LPHs as SCSs. Just need a plastic kit.
Quote from: Cliffy B on May 11, 2011, 07:49:45 PM
DO IT JOE!!! DO IT!!!!!!!!! Give me a time frame you'd like to depict and I can help with camo and aircraft.
I'll be in touch. ;D
Definitely WW2, not certain when. I'll need to obtain the necessary detail parts, most likely from WEM.