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Title: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: Spey_Phantom on October 01, 2009, 11:08:57 AM
since we already had GB's based on some of the worlds greatest fighter aircraft (I love P40's GB and the Spitfire GB) why not organise another one, same rules only instead of P-40's and Spitfires, we use the P-51 Mustang (or A-36 Apache, since it is a mustang derivative) as a basis.
Title: Re: another random idea: "the P-51 Mustang" GB
Post by: ChernayaAkula on October 01, 2009, 02:33:49 PM
Lots of potential! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: another random idea: "the P-51 Mustang" GB
Post by: Daryl J. on October 01, 2009, 08:09:10 PM
All the 'cliche' aircraft make a great base for whiffery and I think the Mustang is one of the top candidates.    :wub: :wub: :wub:   Even if it looks a lot like a Mustang when its done.

:cheers:
Daryl J.
Title: Re: another random idea: "the P-51 Mustang" GB
Post by: puddingwrestler on October 01, 2009, 10:53:37 PM
How about making it a yearly occurance; the Cliche plane GB. This year P51, next year BF109, the year after the FW190... and so forth until we run out of planes, and end up on tanks or something...

And we try to get them on at the same time as serious JMN GBs of similar subjects and flood their forums with our insanity  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: another random idea: "the P-51 Mustang" GB
Post by: Daryl J. on October 01, 2009, 11:41:42 PM
QuoteHow about making it a yearly occurance; the Cliche plane GB. This year P51, next year BF109, the year after the FW190... and so forth until we run out of planes, and end up on tanks or something...

Yeah...what he said.    :thumbsup:


Daryl J.
Title: Re: another random idea: "the P-51 Mustang" GB
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 02, 2009, 06:41:32 AM
Count me! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: another random idea: "the P-51 Mustang" GB
Post by: elmayerle on October 16, 2009, 04:49:26 AM
I reckon my two-seat P-51B nightfighter would fit right in here.  Note, a two-seat Mustang nightfighter is not pure whiffery, if anyone has a copy of the old Squadron book Debden Eagles there's a pic in there of a P-51D with the  andrear canopy split to allow entry to the second seat and dipole radar antennae on the starboard wing.  It's the only pic I've ever seen of such a configuration and I've never seen any write-up.  My nightfighter will, however, use the same radar as the F4U-5N.
Title: Re: another random idea: "the P-51 Mustang" GB
Post by: GTX on October 16, 2009, 11:58:14 AM
Plenty of ideas here (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,11386.0.html).

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: another random idea: "the P-51 Mustang" GB
Post by: GTX on October 16, 2009, 12:02:34 PM
Quote from: elmayerle on October 16, 2009, 04:49:26 AM
I reckon my two-seat P-51B nightfighter would fit right in here.  Note, a two-seat Mustang nightfighter is not pure whiffery, if anyone has a copy of the old Squadron book Debden Eagles there's a pic in there of a P-51D with the  andrear canopy split to allow entry to the second seat and dipole radar antennae on the starboard wing.  It's the only pic I've ever seen of such a configuration and I've never seen any write-up.  My nightfighter will, however, use the same radar as the F4U-5N.

Some similar ideas:

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi37.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe68%2FGTwiner%2FMore%2520Creations%2Fp51b2a.jpg%3Ft%3D1255719671&hash=8838f144f83a799e2c14c81f28fd2b63ee874c36)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi37.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe68%2FGTwiner%2FMore%2520Creations%2Fp51b2mh.jpg%3Ft%3D1255719728&hash=a4f1fddfe6f1ee562b6bccc021c4b468e00eb0f0)

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: another random idea: "the P-51 Mustang" GB
Post by: elmayerle on October 16, 2009, 05:07:41 PM
Actually, that top one with the two standard canopies is the way I intend to go with the addition of the wing-mounted radome.  The radome will be mounted sufficiently far outboard as to be clear of the ammo bay panels; wouldn't do to foul up expeditious re-arming.

I just wish I could find my copy of Debden Eagles and scan that pic in.
Title: Re: another random idea: "the P-51 Mustang" GB
Post by: Jschmus on October 16, 2009, 11:51:20 PM
You could set this up like Starship Modeler's Me-109 build of a couple of years ago, wherein all participants were required to use kits of the -109, but the end result couldn't look anything like one when finished.  There were 109 jets, and 109 spacecraft, and 109 mecha, and one enterprising modeler (the winner, I think) who turned one into a flying pack for an infantry figure.
Title: Re: another random idea: "the P-51 Mustang" GB
Post by: philp on October 17, 2009, 01:27:02 AM
You mean this one from Wonderfest 2006.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.starshipmodeler.org%2Fwfest2k6%2F%21v_twc_03.jpg&hash=e1c50ee03ed59b370b76db670344ed2bf44404fe)

The next year they tried the same thing with Shermans but it didn't get the same turnout.  Didn't see anything similar since.

Title: Re: another random idea: "the P-51 Mustang" GB
Post by: puddingwrestler on October 18, 2009, 06:27:52 PM
I think technically, the Sherminator Challenge never really started and has never officially ended over on SSM.

I think it should be up to the individual whiffer as to whether or not they make something unrecognizable; I mean that does float the boat of some of us, but not all. When we did the spitfire GB there where very few unrecognizable entries as I recall. Maybe the GB should be in two categories: Whiff and Unrecognizable Lords of the Kit Thrash Death Match Arena... or something.
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: Spey_Phantom on October 19, 2009, 01:27:55 AM
since there are so many ideas for specific planes/tanks GB's, i renamed my idea after puddingwrestler suggestion to do something annually based on a wel known aircraft/tank.
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: Weaver on October 19, 2009, 02:02:58 AM
I LIKE GTX's top profile with tandem greenhouse canopies!  :wub: That looks very "right" somehow - nice one!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: Daryl J. on October 19, 2009, 10:26:56 AM
Chris Binnet built the OEP.  Gorgeous isn't it and it's even better in person.    If there were photos available, I'd post his Allumalloy series.   You should see what he did with a 1/32 Rufe float turned into a race boat and the SPAD XIII-based race car.


:cheers:
Daryl
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: jcf on October 19, 2009, 11:44:27 AM
Quote from: Weaver on October 19, 2009, 02:02:58 AM
I LIKE GTX's top profile with tandem greenhouse canopies!  :wub: That looks very "right" somehow - nice one!  :thumbsup:

Yep, it soitanly does.  ;D

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3048%2F2597393814_3733bbf70b_b.jpg&hash=3aa0ef2e414ba7f9def6390d321ca1f985327711)
You can buy a ride/stick time in this one.

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.swissmustangs.ch%2Fmediac%2F400_0%2Fmedia%2Ftwo-seater.jpg&hash=932eb7460a24c46a3bcbd0db926c6330a9b5ebad)
P-51B-15-NT 42-106826 of the 78th Fighter Group at Duxford.
WWII 'hack' conversion.

Jon
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: Weaver on October 19, 2009, 06:32:17 PM
Just more proof of my infallible good taste...... ;D ;)
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: Brian da Basher on October 28, 2009, 05:53:36 PM
We've only got a few days until the proposed Nov. 1st start for this GB. To get it off the ground, we need rules and a moderator, otherwise this one may fall by the wayside.

Time for your input, guys.

Oops!

...posted to the wrong thread.  
This was meant for the Navalise It! GB thread.
:banghead:
Sorry about that.
:banghead:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: puddingwrestler on October 28, 2009, 09:14:55 PM
I'd be happy to create rules and moderate if people want me to, but if anyone else feels like running things, that's fine by me.

I guess the obvious rule would be:
Thou Shalt Use A P-51 (For this year atleast)
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: Spey_Phantom on October 29, 2009, 01:16:12 AM
Quote from: Brian da Basher on October 28, 2009, 05:53:36 PM
We've only got a few days until the proposed Nov. 1st start for this GB. To get it off the ground, we need rules and a moderator, otherwise this one may fall by the wayside.

Time for your input, guys.
:cheers:
Brian da Basher
:huh: i thought the "Navalise it GB" started on november 1, i cant remember this one in the GB polls.
would be nice though  ;D
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: puddingwrestler on October 29, 2009, 02:37:22 PM
That confused me as well, but I thought if I jumped in an got myself declared 'he who leads the GB' no one would be able to stop us and things would just happen :thumbsup:
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: Brian da Basher on October 29, 2009, 05:54:19 PM
Quote from: Nils on October 29, 2009, 01:16:12 AM
Quote from: Brian da Basher on October 28, 2009, 05:53:36 PM
We've only got a few days until the proposed Nov. 1st start for this GB. To get it off the ground, we need rules and a moderator, otherwise this one may fall by the wayside.

Time for your input, guys.
:cheers:
Brian da Basher
:huh: i thought the "Navalise it GB" started on november 1, i cant remember this one in the GB polls.
would be nice though  ;D
Oops!
...posted to the wrong thread.  
:banghead:
This was meant for the Navalise It! GB thread.
Sorry about that.
:banghead:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: Daryl J. on October 29, 2009, 06:55:56 PM
BdB,
We hereby dock you exactly 3 spats in 1/72 scale!     ;D ;D ;D :thumbsup:

My only thought was "I gotta get an order in for Pegasus Hobbies Tuskeegee Mustang!"

Daryl J.
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: puddingwrestler on October 30, 2009, 02:43:29 AM
What with the exchange rate, that comes to 4.723 spats in 1:87 scale, or 2.117 in 1:48, or a shocking 456.923 in 1:2000...
Damn the international spat exchange rate!
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: PanzerWulff on November 01, 2009, 06:38:05 AM
Quote from: puddingwrestler on October 30, 2009, 02:43:29 AM
What with the exchange rate, that comes to 4.723 spats in 1:87 scale, or 2.117 in 1:48, or a shocking 456.923 in 1:2000...
Damn the international spat exchange rate!
PW Youre INSANE........Please don't ever change :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
"Panzer"
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: puddingwrestler on April 02, 2010, 07:58:37 PM
Gentlemen: I hearby bump this thread because I think it a very good idea.
I move we hold it annually, and each year a new cliche machine is chosen. Let us not limit ourselves to planes and tanks, methinks ships and cars could be involved as well, just as long as there are a number of kits of the subject.
'57 Chevies for instance are a car modelers cliche.

I think P-51 Mustangs would be a good starting place, but post your own lists of cliche machines.
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: puddingwrestler on November 29, 2010, 02:38:14 AM
And now, a short list of things I think count for cliche subjects:

SF:
Star Trek original series USS Enterprise
Star Wars X-Wing fighter

Aviation:
Supermarine Spitfire (obviously we've done this'n)
P-51
BF 109/ ME 109
FW 190

Automobiles:
1957 Chevy
1964ish Mustang
Late 50s/Early 60s Corvette

Ships:
Dunno. Bismark maybe?

Figures:
Space Marines. Gah.

Real space:
Saturn V rocket
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: Hobbes on November 29, 2010, 03:20:07 AM
Why limit this to one type? That's a surefire way to minimize participation.
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: Weaver on November 29, 2010, 04:23:24 AM
Few additions in RED?

Quote from: puddingwrestler on November 29, 2010, 02:38:14 AM
And now, a short list of things I think count for cliche subjects:

SF:
Star Trek original series USS Enterprise
Star Wars X-Wing fighter
TIE Fighter

Aviation:
Supermarine Spitfire (obviously we've done this'n)
P-51
BF 109/ ME 109
FW 190
Zero
F-16

Automobiles:
1957 Chevy
1964ish Mustang
Late 50s/Early 60s Corvette

Ships:
Dunno. Bismark maybe?
Spruance?
Burke?
Iowa?

Figures:
Space Marines. Gah.

Real space:
Saturn V rocket
Shuttle?

Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: Old Wombat on November 29, 2010, 05:42:01 AM
Extra additions in GREEN (but only 'coz BEIGE [BEIGE] wouldn't work)!

Quote from: Weaver on November 29, 2010, 04:23:24 AM
Few additions in RED?

Quote from: puddingwrestler on November 29, 2010, 02:38:14 AM
And now, a short list of things I think count for cliche subjects:

SF:
Star Trek original series USS Enterprise
Star Wars X-Wing fighter
TIE Fighter
BSG Viper
BSG Cylon Raider


Aviation:
Supermarine Spitfire (obviously we've done this'n)
P-51
BF 109/ ME 109
FW 190
Zero
F-16
P-38 Lightning
DH Mosquito

Automobiles:
1957 Chevy
1964ish Mustang
Late 50s/Early 60s Corvette
VW Beetle
Firebird

Ships:
Dunno. Bismark maybe?
Spruance?
Burke?
Iowa?
HMS Hood
USS Enterprise (CVN-65)


Figures:
Space Marines. Gah.
Wehrmacht Infantry (1/35th scale, any company - Dragon, Tamiya, etc)

Real space:
Saturn V rocket
Shuttle?

Armour:
PzKpfw IV
StuG III
Tiger I
Sherman
Matilda II
SdKfz 250/251
M-60 Patton
M-551 Sheridan

Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: beowulf on November 29, 2010, 06:10:38 AM
you could add corsair and hunter to the planes
and mini to the cars since tamiyas kit is as common as dirt  ;D
and i guess jeep would come under armour
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: puddingwrestler on November 29, 2010, 09:26:16 PM
How did I forget to include tanks??

I considered ther BSG subjects, but decided against them as the kits were unavailable for a long time. Sure, you see them all the time now, but not so often in the past. I was thinking of only things which have been at EVERY model expo you EVER attended., or atleast for the last twenty years or so.
Title: Re: another random idea: "the cliché plane/tank" GB
Post by: Old Wombat on December 02, 2010, 04:51:59 AM
Quote from: puddingwrestler on November 29, 2010, 09:26:16 PM
How did I forget to include tanks??

I considered ther BSG subjects, but decided against them as the kits were unavailable for a long time. Sure, you see them all the time now, but not so often in the past. I was thinking of only things which have been at EVERY model expo you EVER attended., or atleast for the last twenty years or so.

I've only been to 3 SAPMA Expo's - 2008, 2009 & 2010 - here in Adelaide. Only having returned to modelling in 2008. ;)