OK chaps, I'm cutting plastic on a Soviet TSR-2 today.
I'm waiting for the Gas Man to call to fit a new metre....sometime between 08.00 hours and 20.00....so it could be a long day! Good. I can cut out and prepare bits.
I'll need to buy some Soviet seats, and the rest of the extras will come from an enormous spares box full of all sorts of accumulated 40+years of modelling.
A new nose/radome is essential, pylons, weapons, lumps, bumps and fin/rudder can be expected. New engines.
As well, of course, as a new camouflage.
Probably based at the Frontal Aviation base at Dennisov (formerly Wittering) after the Soviet coup led by Comrade Dennisov Healliski.
:party:
It's a terrible thing to happen to a TSR, but, Cannot wait to see it ;D ;D ;D
And Wing Fences, comrades, it has to have WING FENCES to prevent the air from defecting.
I've sorted a few items from the spares box, as well a a couple of kits to donate other stuff...whoooooohoooo :party:
ODD RODS, gotta have ODD RODS!
i think hacking up a TSR2 is sacrilegious, but if the end result looks good, then im ok with it :mellow:
;D :thumbsup:
There are 3 reasons to "hijack" a RSR.2 kit:
1. I want to do something different, more than a repaint with a few flourishes
2. I want a reaction from people who look at it
3. I want a reaction from Mr.X....the dreaded "he who has been expelled". :party:
I've just been on all afternoon fitting a new undercarriage leg to mine, drilling holes, test fitting and sanding and it just feels great, that feeling when you know something has gone right, whether anyone will notice the work is a different matter but at the moment I feel good. ;D
All I've got to do now is the other undercarriage leg but thats for tomorrow. :thumbsup:
Whoooooohooooooo!!
Thinking....TWIN FINS??? :wacko:
With that loooong fuselage, how about lift engines as per the Faithless or the delta-winged Su-24 prototype?
Quote from: Weaver on September 12, 2009, 12:51:21 PM
With that loooong fuselage, how about lift engines as per the Faithless or the delta-winged Su-24 prototype?
Now there's and idea a VTOL (or STOL) TSR2 with lift jets in the weapon bay.
Regards,
Greg
I have considered a 3rd engine above the other two. But that perhaps comes later. After all, I've a "few" TSR.2 kits to play with ;D
Quote from: Radish on September 13, 2009, 01:11:00 AM
I have considered a 3rd engine above the other two. But that perhaps comes later. After all, I've a "few" TSR.2 kits to play with ;D
Or how about
below the other two with a ventral intake? Obviously going to screw it as a strike aircraft, but with a modified nose it's make a hell of an interceptor......
Or....4 engined Top and Bottom?? Bloody hell!!! :party:
Quote from: GTX on September 12, 2009, 02:17:57 PM
Quote from: Weaver on September 12, 2009, 12:51:21 PM
With that loooong fuselage, how about lift engines as per the Faithless or the delta-winged Su-24 prototype?
Now there's and idea a VTOL (or STOL) TSR2 with lift jets in the weapon bay.
Regards,
Greg
I think the weapons bay would be a bit too far back in the airframe for that, except maybe the front third of it.
Stick the lift jets somewhere between the backseater and the weapons bay. You'll never get the nose off the ground if your lift jets are all back in the weapons bay, just too much airplane out ahead of that.
The only VTOL type I'd consider is one with a very large rotating wing. :cheers: :drink:
A shot of mine ;D
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Impressive, Steve. Looking good with the fin and new undercarriage.
I need to make more progress.....not today as I'm "busy" but SWMBO is out all day tomorrow and Wednesday, so I'll be cracking on.
NOT with a VTOL swinging wing version (perhaps a USAF or NASA one next year?) but with the TSR.2ski. :party:
Comrade,
the people of the glourious Peoples Republic await the work of your OKB in bated breath, the capitolist running dogs have to long had their own way and we require this product to make it's appearance soon, for the people comrade, for the people !
;D ;D ;D ;D
Should get cockpit done today and then I can glue all the fuselage together a long with the wings ;D
Sub assemblies generally done....wings, cockpit, fuselage, wheels....and the MiG-21PF fin will be good with a few mods. This kit doesn't fit very well though, does it?
The guide from Thorvic/Falcon is very useful though. Thanks chaps. Luckily, they don't say much about the TSR.2ski, and the full Soviet pruduction scenario.
The People's Republic will soon learn and see the full exposition by proper Socialist Marxist Leninist workers of the TSR.2ski (as named by the lying deceitful Imperialist Capitalist lacky press) and the Tupolev Tu-21 will show its Bolshevist credentials.
Up the Proletariate!!!!! :party: :party: :party:
The superior skills of the Bolshevik Workers, allied with Super Glue provided by the Worker's Marxist-Leninist Paradise of Wilkos has enabled the fuselage with undercarriage to be successfully constructed in record time. Comrades, the Revolution is Continuous according to all Marxist-Leninist-Bolshevik Dictat.
Up the Proletariate!!
Comrades, the wings will soon be slotted into place according to the superior dialectic of Comrade Lenin, and the modified fin of superior Socialist design fits much better, of course, than the products of the Renegade Imperialist Capitalists.
Once the main construction has taken place at Socialist Record Speed, the plans of Comrade Dennisov Healsky will be re-examined by the Panel Of Socialist Designers, so that Comrade Tupolev can direct further detail and construction. New wheels will be designed and built to improve the stance and look of the impressive Tu-21, and stores are already being constructed and improved according to the dialectic Socialism of Marx, Lenin and our current Guiding Socialist Principles.
Right Up The Proletariate!!
Comrades, I can report to the Committee that the superior Socialist wing has been fitted to the fuselarge despite Imperialist interference with the construction. 7 workers have been executed and with slight modification our Glorious Socialist-Bolshevik Bomber proceeds with success.
Up The Revolution.
Up The Proletariate!! :party:
Comrade,
the Vodka here in the department of looking into other peoples business is flowing in your honour, we rejoice in your efforts and are delighted by your progress, However we need pictures Comrade for properganda purposes. We must show thosw western dogs the glory of your work.
FOR THE PEOPLE COMRADE FOR THE PEOPLE !
;D ;D ;D ;D
Comrade Darkmaster makes an excellent point (through his vodka induced haze). Here in the Burea for Oversize Heroic Socialist Statues, we are keen to begin construction of a 17 foot high bronze statue of you heroicly smiting imperialist aggressors, armed only with the rotor blades off a SMER Mi-8.
Some minor fit problems created by an Imperialist Capitalist agent have been eradicated (as has he and his family has been exiled to a Gulag in Milton Keynes) and progress will continue after a brief Socialist Holiday, where the Educational Bolshevik Dialectic of Comrades Campionov and Mansellinsky will be studied (I have a meeting with the Headteacher where I'm Chair of Governors) and copious amounts of Bolshevik Coffee and Marxist-Leninist cooked Sponge Cake will be consumed according to strict Marxist-Leninist dictat.
Up the Revolution!!
Up the Proletariate!!
Be assured, comrades, that the Socialist-Bolshevik led progress will continue as the Comrades of Construction carry out careful Socialist preparation and philosophical dialectism. :party:
Comrades, the inferior Imperialist Capitalist design means that there are cable runs and bumps added to the airframe exterior to accomodate the superior Bolshevik-Leninist constuction. Full Socialist Dialectic has been applied, and after meeting the Committee, Marxist dictat ensured 3 more Capitalist agents were discovered and shot. More families to a Gulag in Milton Keynes and another in Swadlincote.
Up The Proletariate!!
Very soon the detailing of the seats, open electronics bay (fitted with superior Socialist equipment....ALL HAIL THE SOCIALIST DESIGHNERS AND ENGINEERS!!!!) and wheel bays will take place. Before long our engineers expect to either coat the airframe with grey primer. Failure to do so will lead to inevitable execution. The long struggle against the inferior Imperialist-Capitalist Running Dogs continues.
Long Live The Revolution!!!!! :party:
Socialist Comrades, progress has been slow this morning as the Chief Engineer was out rocking in Derby last night to the excellent Letz Zep (nearly 3 hours of proper sounds with the Comrade on the barrier...yeah!!) but further effort is delayed by other things as designated by the Committee.
Nevertheless, be assured the work team is philosophysing with ferocity along strict Socialist-Bolshevik Dialectic Guidelines and Principles, and any Capitalist-Imperialist induced diversion will lead to elimination and the distribution of families to gulags in Milton Keynes, Swadlincote, and Hemel Hemstead.
Long Live The Revolution.
Oh no comrade not the imfamous Swadlincote Gulag !!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
True, Comrade, a scene of enormous despair.....they're made to work in the mine under Morrissons lol. :party:
Meanwhile, the committee has met and after much deliberation and Socialist-Bolshevik discussion of the True Panth of Marxist Leninism, it has been decided that the TSR2ski (aka Tu-21) could be exported to close reliable Warsaw Pact Comrades as well as certain secure and Socialist-Committed States, notably Syria, Iraq, Vietnam and Cuba.
The decision on which Socialist Air Force will receive the Tu-21 is as yet under weighty Bolshevik-Marxist Dialectic Consideration by the Full Committee.
Long Live the Revolution!!! :party: :party:
Long Live The Party!!! :party: :party: :party:
Comrades, work on the undercarriage, electronics and bomb bays is underway, with a completion time of 15.00 hours (Republic of South Derbyshire Time). If this is not achieved, a minor engineer will be executed and his family will be exiled. The Workers of the TSR2ski are confident that their target will be met.
Long live the Revolution. :drink:
Comrades, I can report to the Committee that wheel/undercarriage bays, bomb bay and electronics bay are now fully detailed (sprue, strip, rod and lots of it) so that the deadline will have been met with time to spare. This has been achieved with the Engineers working speedily to dvds by ZZ Top and Motorhead. The latter is on it's final songs. Comrades, REJOICE. No one has been executed or exiled!!
Detail on the doors will be undertaken, but this will be minimal.
Comrades REJOICE!! "Ace of Spades!!" :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Long Live The Revolution!!!! :party: :party:
Comrade,
we rejoice at your increased productivity, the five year plan is at last within the grasp of the people :thumbsup:
Comrades, the electronics bay door has been detailed, hinges fabricated to full Socialist-Bolshevik specifications as laid down in the Committee Manual and Party :party: Prospectus. Further, it has been attached. I will lead the team to affix the landing gear doors tomorrow.
We, the Engineers of the South Derbyshire Soviet, will complete this task following Committee Guidelines, according to the Marxist-Leninist Dialectic of our Glorious Leaders.
Up The Proletariate!!
Up The Revolution!!
Right Up The Politburo :party: :party:
Comrades, I report that the engineers did not arrive for duty yesterday, having been called for meetings lasting many hours. As these meetings were decreed to be vital (Head Teacher/Governor meetings) lasting 6+ hours, it was accepted by the Committee that no one should be executed.
However, progress must be made today. :thumbsup:
Comrade,
your duty to the future of the party ( schools ) does you ever lasting credit, but the people are chaffing under the oppresive air umbella of the capitolist running dogs and your OKB is needed to finish it's work quota so we can wave at the imperialists and say "naah naah na nar nar" as the stand speachless before your superior communist inspired and marxixt-leninist produced masterpeice . ;D ;D ;D ;D
Comrades, I can report that the construction of this Superior Bolshevik-Socialist Programme will be completed tomorrow, and photographs of the primed airframe will be released by the Committee after the weekend.
Socialists rejoice!! :party: :party:
Meanwhile, Comrade Engineers are investigating the construction of another, more developed Tu-21, in 1/48th, but fitted with twin fins. Comrades, this engineering task will be achievable only at great cost to The Motherland, but The Party :party: :party: will make sure the lying dog Imperialists do not sabotage our efforts. :drink:
Comrades, the Chief Engineer is looking for a big long nose suitable for the Tu-21. We believe he will find this soon. And Comrades, the detailed doors are affixed.
Vodka has been consumed :drink: :drink: :drink:
Up The Proletariate!! :party: :party:
Long Live The Party :party: :party: :party:
Comrades, the superior Socialist-Marxist designed fin has been fitted after much hammering and gruelling work. In our Marxist-Leninist Paradise of South Derbyshire, the Engineers have been granted a night off to visit "Vampires Rock" with much good music and laughs. Tomorrow will see the project primed.
Long Live The Revolution!!
Right Up The Committee!!!! :party: :party: :party:
Comrades, the new fin was strengthened with true Communist skill and Superglue after a rewarding visit to "Vampires Rock" where Radishki sat in the front row.
Oh Comrade the joy's of the peoples entertainment comitee comes to fruition i see ;D ;D ;D
Comrades, the magnificent TSR2ski project, a Socialist-Bolshevik Dream of practical Marxist Dialectism has hit a slight delay in progress as 7 male and two female engineers have been discovered acting carnally together behind the KGB shed. The males have been executed and the female engineers promoted to Kremlin duties. The families have been exiled, but as the Swadlincote Gulag has become overcrowded, a new one has opened at Burslem.
New engineers have been drafted in, the Chief Engineer Radishki talking swiftly and sharply about the need for rapid socialist progress.
Comrades, the future is nearly here!!!
Up the Proletariate!!
Right up the Committee!!!! :drink:
Tovarisch, to inspire the engineers to work through their delay and bring the great patriotic program back on track, Roskosmos sends a picture of one of their captured Imperialist craft they use to escort Buran on landing.
Comrade...inspirational!! :drink: :drink: :drink:
Comrade Radish, the people demand vodka................er, wait. That should be pictures!
Comrade Bradovitch, although the people are impatient for visual proof of this glorious statement of socialist superiority, we must not tip off the western imperialists, and their capitalist lap-dogs around the world.
Furthermore, your statement implies that you and/or the people lack faith in the statements of our gloriously elected peoples representatives who have the privilidge of leading our society into a socialist utopia. I hear the gulag at Hull is full of such doubters.
Comrades,
we here at the glourious department of looking into other peoples things must agree with our sosialist comrades and ask for propaganda pictures.
We need these pictures as proof that the western dogs are stealing our efforts and copying our glourious designs.
Do it comrade, do it, also take some picures of the aircraft as well ;D ;D ;D
For the people.
Comrades, the Socialist-Marxist dialectic path that we follow, as designated by the Bolshevik Guidance of The Committee, allows photographs to be taken and published, so that the faithful workers can share Communist Pride in the Endeavours of Our Comrade Engineers (those that survive).
The Gulag In Hull is dreadful, and suffers greatly due to North-Eastern winds.
Please be patient, Comrades...photographs, clear and precise, will be published soo.
Right Up The Committee!!!
Long Live The Revolution!!!
Vodka, Drink Of The People :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink:
Despite all that has gone before, increased surveillance and patrols, an engineer of the Criminal Imperialist-Capitalist CIA managed to sabotage the wheels. He was executed immediatly.
New wheels are being sent to our secret factory.
The Capitalists shall not win.
Bolshevik Socialism following the directives of The Committee shall triumph!!
Up The Committee!!!
Right Up The Workers!!!
Long LIVE THE REVOLUTION!!!! :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink:
Give us the pictures Redski, diplomacy my donkey!! This is the MIGHTY U.S. of A, and when we want somethin' we is gonna have it, no if's no buts................and don't think we're gonna give the job to that no good Gary Powers again, oh hell no, this time we'll send in the big guns boy....................................Oprah and Maurey!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now ya scared aintcha!
President R. Sole-Chadders
Americas First Fat President
Coming soon.
Comrades the Imperialist Capitalist banks have been innefficient and have needed true Socialist#Bolshevik direction. Also, the Chief Engineer Radishki has been very involved in Educational matters concerning the true path of our young.
Two more engineers have been found to be lying agents of the despicable CIA and executed.
Progress is therefore slow but secure.
Comrade,
the comitee has met and it has decided that without propaganda pictures a place for you has been alocated at the Hull gulag and peoples seaside resort.
We apeall to your marxsist Leninist side comrade, for now the fat corupt Americans know of the project you must extract the digit and force the engineers to work harder for the people.
for the people comrade.
Comrades, rest assured the photographs will be forthcoming, and I have no fears of a Gulag as my sister-in-law's family are related to a KGB officer (actually true!!).
For the Comrades, comrades!! :party: :party:
Up The Party :party: :party:
Right Up The Committee!!! :party: :party: :party:
We the people of our glorious motherland will gladly wait a little longer for photographic evidence of the superiority of glorious socialist endevor and technology.
But with half an eye on the trucks heading for the Hull gulag (shudders), could the comittee also ensure distribution of the vodka please, as supplies of battery acid and antifreeze are sadly depleated by the dispicable actions of capitalist agents and sabotures?
This will ensure the continued efforts of the proletariat in the struggle to bring true socialist dielectisism to the oppressed masses of the world.
Up the revolution - and up the central comittee as well.
Comrades, after a recent visit to the environs of the Socialist-Bolshevik Paradise of Milton Keynes(despite the presence of the nearby gulag) to take part in the Marxist revelry and celebration of Rocky Horror, Comrade Chief Engineer Radashki once more reports that with all engineers fired with Socialist Zeal, the TSR-2ski Tu-21 will be completed ready for priming TODAY!!!
All Hail Radishki :party: :party:
Despite many problems, the Tu-21 is nearing completion, and not one drop of Vodka will be consumed until the final nut is in place. (Not one drop but several litres!!)
Up The Comrades!! :party:
Up The Party :party: :party:
Right Up The Committee :party: :party: :party:
The Comrade Radiski has been extremely busy at Rocky Horror, being Chair of Governors at a school, and tomorrow will be at a ZZ Top concert.
Worry not, comrades, the Marxist-Bolshevik Triumph of eternal Communist Dialectic will win through. :party:
Comrade we are relieved by your reappearance. The people were beginning to assume that you had "disappeared", though of course they know better than to ask questions about such issues.
The people have also noticed you writing articles in the propaganda leaflets of western imperialist modellers, we assume that this is some counter-intelligence revolutionary activity.
I been following this thread.........I have to echo the others as well.....put down the Vodka comrade and pick up the cameraski!!!!! ;D
I think that model is just like the Sukhoi PAK-FA T-50 .... it's just a hoax and we will never see it !
Deino :wacko:
I think the comrade may need some re-education in the use of the camera...
Regards,
Greg
Had a few busy weeks comrades, but I'm taking it UNFINISHED to Telford tomorrow so others can contribute and see it in the flesh/plastic.
It was there, comrades ;D
Quote from: Radish on November 09, 2009, 01:08:21 AM
It was there, comrades ;D
and the commitee that allowed such a Capitalistic like slow down of production have been taken out and shot! :wacko:
SEEN IT,.............. my Godski, what have you done Komrad......fuzzy sat intel pics taken from US, PIGDOG 1 shows a very strange device with what looks like a drooping sock hanging off the front and all sorts of odd lumps and bumps tacked onto the sides in a very agricultuaral fashion, there was even mention of an extra engine bunged onto the tail as a last ditch attempt to acheive take off speed... ....this must be a smokescreen as seen in the anti Soviet Imperialistic 'Autocar magazine' to fool the US vermin into thinking that we are producing highly substandard aircraft for our glorious beloved pilotskis to risk their honour not to mention lives in.........
Please post pictures of the Real-dealski,and put us out of our misery
Cheerski, we await your reply with eager anticipation komrad,
Melchski...governor, 5th district, gulag and director General of rumored subversive mutterings.....
Comrade I see you have found a solution to several previously unknown aerontical problems through the use of superior socialist engineering solutions.
Phew....I was getting worried there for a moment....what is causing the problem with the droopski noseski?...Is it the incredible mass density of the pig iron scaffold poles and vacuum tubes condensed into an electro magnetic, radium-ion' holding field' using komrad Tomaskyevskis folding space and relative time dimensional black hole theory!!.......................or did you glue it on like that ????
It will look magnificent with the T-70 tank tracks and 152 mm field howitzer fitted komrad, as agreed in your brochure submission 1134332.2 article 4 as submitted to the General Council...
Continue at speed Radishski for the glory of Mother Russia, ( and remember, there's a brand new Moskvitch GTI twin tub in it for you if you finish the project before the snows of winter arrive!!).......
To hell with the people...where's my Vodka tonic!!
Quote from: General Melchet on November 10, 2009, 04:46:19 AM
It will look magnificent with the T-70 tank tracks and 152 mm field howitzer fitted komrad, as agreed in your brochure submission 1134332.2 article 4 as submitted to the General Council...
You do realise the ideas you've given him, dont you ? ;D :banghead:
Funny you should mention the tracks......I've been looking at Li-2 versions with tracks.
Mmmmmmm. :party:
Sorry komrad Narses.............I never thought!!! :banghead:
Komrad Radishski is obviously a loose cannon and a danger to himself, the party and humanity at large..................................I APOLOGISE!!!! :party:
Ah....the Hand of Fate giving the Official Stamp of Approval.
Or not, as it was The Wooksta :tank:
No,no ,no Komrad ...that is the Iron Fist of Socialistic glory indicating the strength of the state and overcoming of Imperialistic dogma, the inherent power and supremacy of the people over capitalsm and its bourgoise reliance on greed and materialistic desire.......oh hang, no...no..... forget all that...yep you're right.......it's Wooksta!! :rolleyes:
PS when will the planned rotor blades and 12 lift engines be fitted??...the party is very concerned about the projected budget overspend........
A new team is in charge; the old team have been executed. There is new Bolshevik Creatism and Production evident.
Onwards and upwards.
Comrades...I've found the box in which the TSR2ski was hidden by capitalist warmongering swine. They have been caught and executed.
The TSR-2ski is back on the production line.
All Hail the revolution. :tank: :tank: :tank:
Woohooski....!!!!! One of the projekts I really wanted to see finished................more vodka....!!!!!
Quote from: Army of One on April 06, 2011, 12:57:27 PM
Woohooski....!!!!! One of the projekts I really wanted to see finished................more vodka....!!!!!
I agree with the esteemed comrade. In the spirit of Glasnost and Perestroika, we should have photographs and full backstory!!
Comrade.......the Party now demands photographs...and cake ;D ;D
Hmmm! Didn't someone earlier on mention an interceptor version of TSR-2 with twin fins..................................................???????
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Comrade! Your TSR-2ski will be no match..............................................!!!!! ;D
Looking interesting :thumbsup:
The thought the Soviet's had a TSR-2ski - Even down to the downward turned wingtips - the Sukhoi T-6 :cheers:
Now this would look neat with an TSR-2 cockpit arrangement, replacing the side-by-side arrangement :o
M.A.D
Wow!!
I've got a 1/72 F-22, just waiting for my Vigi to arrive, thanks for the inspiration
Best one to start from for a Soviet TSR2 is ye olde Contrail vacform. It resembles a TSR2 but that's about it.
Quote from: The Wooksta! on May 11, 2011, 11:53:57 AM
Best one to start from for a Soviet TSR2 is ye olde Contrail vacform. It resembles a TSR2 but that's about it.
;D
Lol!!
I remember THAT one very well!! Not fondly either! :banghead: