same concept as the P-40 and Spitfire GB. build an F-14 (or use the F-14 as basis for another aircraft.
reason: seriously, who doesnt like the tomcat ;D
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.strijdbewijs.nl%2Ftop%2FF14.jpg&hash=4ee3319baf1dc660c75303bfe2e43f714eaa43a7)
One thing you should NEVER say around here is 'seriously, who doesn't like X' because someone will spring up and say ME!
Not that in this case it will be me.
Because I treat any single subject GB as an opportunity to kitbash it into something completely different and I think the Tomcat may have potential as a battle cruiser.
heh - I have a Tomcat project in mind that would make it's fans spit feathers...... :wacko:
Quoteseriously, who doesnt like the tomcat
Me! I used to quite like it and its colour schemes, but the legions of Fanboys on ARC have put me right off
Quote from: nev on July 12, 2009, 08:27:00 AM
Quoteseriously, who doesnt like the tomcat
Me! I used to quite like it and its colour schemes, but the legions of Fanboys on ARC have put me right off
Someone should do that picture with all RAF aircraft that have been phased out over the last 15 years ;D
Quote from: Nils on July 12, 2009, 02:03:52 AM
seriously, who doesnt like the tomcat ;D
As long as Tom Cruise isn't flying it...........
Obviously I will be up for this :thumbsup: I have more ideas for F-14s than I do models :cheers:
Some F-14s I have found:
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,24956.0.html
I'd be up for it. The Tomcat is my favorite teeniebopper...and yes, it does have potential as a battlecruiser... :thumbsup:
I have had a Kuaiti tomcat in the planning stage for some time now ,maybe I'll actually get around to building it
"Panzer"
I have a sneaking suspicion that someone's already done it, but for what it's worth:
EF-14G Wildcat: the SEAD version :thumbsup: :wub:
(can you imagine how hard an AGM-54 Pheonix ARM hits? :blink:)
Quote from: Weaver on July 15, 2009, 04:35:32 AM
I have a sneaking suspicion that someone's already done it, but for what it's worth:
EF-14G Wildcat: the SEAD version :thumbsup: :wub:
(can you imagine how hard an AGM-54 Pheonix ARM hits? :blink:)
i think i already build one of those a couple of years back, but it didnt turn out so well, guess i can always try again.
anyway, i was also thinking of a F/A-14E multirole version. maybe ewuiped with JDAM or Harpoon ASM's.
ive seen JDAM equiped F-14B's in Ace Combat 5, and you have no idea how right that looks ;D
I can imagine an RAF 12 Sqn Tomcat FGR.2 low over the water with a pair of Sea Eagles under the belly...
For people who think Tomcats are too pretty: De Havilland Seacat. ;D
1. Split the front fuselage and widen it at the expense of the inboard walls of the intakes,
2. Triangularise the outboard intake walls so their top edge is further outboard under a reduced sweep fixed glove,
3. fit side-by-side seating with am off-set fighter canopy and a coal-hole for the RIO.....
That would turn some heads!! :o
Quote from: Weaver on July 18, 2009, 09:34:01 PM
For people who think Tomcats are too pretty: De Havilland Seacat. ;D
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3. fit side-by-side seating with am off-set fighter canopy and a coal-hole for the RIO.....
De Havilland
Seacat, sounds nice to me Weaver! :mellow:
Here's my take F-14 + Sea Vixen cockpit...
...and single seater, F-14 + Flanker canopy.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi703.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww37%2Fjmsfbip%2FF14A-SeaVixen-and-F14A-Su33-cockpit.jpg&hash=4a04c55cc560426876ea7e513d2c1ba7bb31ae6e)
That first one has a surprisingly Soviet look
They both look good :wacko: the first one is totally out of the blue :wub:
Nice one ElectrikBlue! :thumbsup:
In my mind's eye I saw the front end being a bit shorter and stubbier than that: maybe graft the entire front end of a Sea Vixen in and then fit it with the F-14 radome?
Another idea for the intakes: leave the glove profile alone, but cut off the outer intake wall at the point where it starts to slope upwards. Triangulate the outer wall behind that point, and then add F-111-style quarter cone intake bodies.
As an extra SV touch, give the fin leading edges short vertical sections near the top.
I'm down, got at least 4+ F-14 ideas that need to be done!
Shas 8)
I've got like... three tomcat ideas in the back of my skull... so I guess that puts me in the list here.
F-14DJ - AAM-4's in the glove, plus tanks, plus AAM-3's on the wings, GE Motors.
F-14G - Glove mounted ALQ pods, four ARMs in the tunnel, winders.
CF-14B - Let's just say, she's not quite the way most would do a B.
More thoughts on the De Havilland Seacat.
Why not take the SV's tailbooms and stick them to the outside of the engines in the manner of F-15 "tailbooms", and then fit a horizontal tail between them? The chances of the spacing being exactly correct to use the original tailplane is remote, but you could cook up an arrowhead-shaped one with the F-14's tailplanes, and would look similar to some advances SV proposals.
Quote from: Weaver on July 22, 2009, 04:49:59 AM
More thoughts on the De Havilland Seacat.
Why not take the SV's tailbooms and stick them to the outside of the engines in the manner of F-15 "tailbooms", and then fit a horizontal tail between them? The chances of the spacing being exactly correct to use the original tailplane is remote, but you could cook up an arrowhead-shaped one with the F-14's tailplanes, and would look similar to some advances SV proposals.
That would look so cool --Needs to be done!
As a weapon fit for the DH Seacat, how about;
A) The Four Red Tops from the donor Sea Vixen on the wing glove pylons,
B) Four Bristol/De Havilland Propellors "Purple Haze" long range AAMs on the fuselage pallets.
What's a Purple Haze? Donor kit's Phoenix with the following mods to "Britishize" it:
1. Control fins cut in half diagonally to make them triangular (like a Red Top's),
2a. (Easy Version) Wings turned round 180 deg so that the blunt end is forwards (like a Red Top's) and the blunt end slightly raked,
2b. (Harder version) Make new wings to a stretched-out Red Top profile,
3. Nose cone cut off just forward of the point where it begins to taper and a Sparrow's nose inserted in the middle of the hole, thus giving it a Sea Dart-style ramjet powerplant.
Here they are illustrated. From the top: normal Phoenix, easy version and harder version:
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Wow :o how did you think of that?! Brilliant!! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Weaver on July 25, 2009, 05:30:15 AM
As a weapon fit for the DH Seacat, how about;
3. Nose cone cut off just forward of the point where it begins to taper and a Sparrow's nose inserted in the middle of the hole, thus giving it a Sea Dart-style ramjet powerplant.
Yes, this is a great idea! :thumbsup:
Very interesting indeed, I Like the way that looks! I might have to think of something similar for my RAF Eagle... I really do like the way that looks, quite smart indeed. Not sure I like the fin layout, but I might have to think of how to set up two of those on a mounting... centerlined on the Eagle might look right nice.
Quote from: Taiidantomcat on July 25, 2009, 11:36:23 PM
Wow :o how did you think of that?! Brilliant!! :thumbsup:
Years of carefully cultivating a twisted mind...... :wacko:
Actually, there really was a project, CF.299 to use big-winged Sea Dart as an AAM for the Royal Navy. On the right carrier aircraft it could have been good, but it fell down because the projected carriers (P.1154RN and various "Super Sea Vixens") didn't have the radar range to use it properly or the power to compensate for the relative imprecision of the interferometer homing system (look at how big a type 909 TI radar is compared to the ones used for SM1ER!) They'd also have suffered from excessive drag due to the missile's exposed inlet when carried externally, and the P.1154RN also had a ground-clearance problem with the missile on it's outer pylons because of the large wing anhedral.
On the DH Seacat, I'd see the pallets modified to have a fixed aerodynamic fairing in front of the forward missiles, the aft ones being shielded by the forward ones. Maybe the aft missiles would always be fired first, or maybe the fairing could slide back to sheild them once the forward missile had gone.
I love Tomcat !
:drink:
AnthonyP has started a GB nominating thread, make sure to put your 2 cents in, especially if this GB is one of your choices! :wacko: