I suppose I ought to mention what I'm working on the Whif field just now, so.......
Back in 1997, when the Star Alliance was formed, they put out full page adverts in the papers, and at the bottom of the page was this :-
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Since then I've always wanted to make that 777 and 2008 is the year!
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That's a 1/144 scale DC9-30 in the foreground BTW, to give it scale. It took one Doyusha 777, two Minicraft 777s and two extra welsh Models vacform fuselages to build it so far. I've still got to make the starboard GE90 by cross-kitting the Doyusha and Minicraft bits, but it's a right pain.
Can't wait to get the decals on, I had to print my own for it of course.
wow :blink:, talk about Boeing XXXXXXXL :wub:
i admire your guts to build something that long :bow:
so what airline(s) are you gonn a assign it to, i think you should fit 6 engines, cause with 2 you'le be luck engough to taxi it out to the runway :lol:
the perfect 747 replacement.
Imagine how long it would take the flight attendant with the dining cart to get to you if you were seated at the other end of airplane.
Logan Hartke
Nils,
Nononononono, it's going to look exactly like the advert, with each fuse section with its own decal set. And only two engines as well.
It must be right, it's in the papers........... -_-
Logan,
Hehehe, love it! :lol: Perhaps they'd have to use golf carts to travel that far?
Wonderful... :thumbsup:
Do you know the batch of fake pictures at
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/search/search.php?search=normal
with dozens of very much elongated airliners... I have saved dozens of them on my HD. In plastic, that's even better, but less easy. -_-
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 05, 2008, 09:24:08 AM
It must be right, it's in the papers........... -_-
Absolutely agreed!
BTW: I admire you took the challenge :bow: :bow: :bow:
Brilliant. Love this concept. And the model is looking good.
Ed
Glad you like the idea guys, thanks. Watch this space........ (a BIG space of course!)
Tophe,
Yes, someone linked that site to me a while ago, BAGS of scope there for the Whiffing airliner modeller.
As if I don't have enough ideas in my head anyway.... :)
If I tried something like that my wife would accuse me of 'compensating'.
Looks like a great job so far, can't wait for the finish! :thumbsup:
Wow! That is quite the concept and seeing it sitting next to a normal size model makes it look that much more impressive. Leave the wings off and you can use it for a walking stick or a javelin for the next Olympic try outs :)
Jeff,
My wife has ALREADY used it for closing our lounge curtains once!
That was before I painted it though. I'm a bit worried how I carry it to a show, as it's longer than any of my model carriage boxes!
Does the pilot have to dial a different area code to talk to the aft flight crew? :o That is out there and I love it! :wub:
Quote from: Eddie M. on December 05, 2008, 04:38:22 PM
Does the pilot have to dial a different area code to talk to the aft flight crew? :o That is out there and I love it! :wub:
Eddie,
No, it's too far for that to work.
They have a LOOOOOOONG piece of string and two Coke cans, the string goes slap down the middle of the aircraft so the pax have to duck around it. If the string does break they keep a couple of pigeons in the cockpit....... -_-
Thank goodness! How many times zones do you cross traveling from nose to tail? Okay, I'll stop and get me coat. I did get a vision of one of those moving sidewalks I've used at the airport....... ;D
Years ago, when boeing was making the 707, 727, and 737 all with the same fuselage diameters, there used to be a joke that Boeing didn't have an aircraft factory but a huge sausage machine that would crank out the fuselage length you wanted, then they'd tack on wings and a tail and send it to you.
Coolest commercial whiff ever :wub: :thumbsup:
That sure is a cool looking whiff :)
Quote from: SSgt Baloo on December 05, 2008, 05:32:10 PM
Years ago, when boeing was making the 707, 727, and 737 all with the same fuselage diameters, there used to be a joke that Boeing didn't have an aircraft factory but a huge sausage machine that would crank out the fuselage length you wanted, then they'd tack on wings and a tail and send it to you.
I've seen that too, and I can almost believe it.
I built a 707-700 that was two -420s joined end to end, with uprated P&Ws and did it in PanAm colours, entitled 'Clipper Long Tom'. Until you posted that I'd forgotten I'd done it, I'll have to dig the thing out and post some pics. Boeing really DID plan the 707-700 to compete with the DC8-60 series, but it would have needed longer landing gear and thus a new wing root design so it never happened, except in 1/144 scale of course.
How about a 737-50 with maybe 5 windows either side of the wing? Or a loooooong 727-800 with a MONSTER third engine in the centre position? Maybe give it a booster with the standard engine, a la Trident 3?
Of course Airbus are already in the sausage machine business, with the A318, A319, A320 and A321. An A312 would look good, or maybe even an A329??? -_-
Mind you, the same thing was said about the WW2 Liberty ship.
I'm imagining a huge extrusion machine spitting out an endless fuselage tube ;D
Bump time for this project.
It was my intention to finish it for the 2008 Telford Nats (Yeah, OK, I know its called Scale Model World or something now, but I still think of it as the Nats....) but disaster came upon it when I found the filler on the umpteen fuselage joints bubbling up through the first wihite coat! No matter what I did I couldn't get rid of it so the project was shelved until the reaction stopped. I tested it by giving it a quick sand every six months or so but it still kept coming back.
But on the last sanding effort, about a week ago, nothing happened! ;D :cheers: :drink:
So it's back on again, and maybe might make the 2011 Nats in November, so fingers crossed that the new PSR routine works, that I have enough white paint in stock and that the 3 yr old home printed decals are still OK.
Oh yes, and that I have enough window decals for the darn thing!!
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 06, 2008, 06:09:29 AM
Quote from: SSgt Baloo on December 05, 2008, 05:32:10 PM
Years ago, when boeing was making the 707, 727, and 737 all with the same fuselage diameters, there used to be a joke that Boeing didn't have an aircraft factory but a huge sausage machine that would crank out the fuselage length you wanted, then they'd tack on wings and a tail and send it to you.
I built a 707-700 that was two -420s joined end to end, with uprated P&Ws and did it in PanAm colours, entitled 'Clipper Long Tom'. Until you posted that I'd forgotten I'd done it, I'll have to dig the thing out and post some pics.
And bump time for that too, your fans demand pictures! :thumbsup:
Good idea for a new liner model! :thumbsup: :bow: :bow: :bow:
I'm waiting for the complete model, now ;)
Quote from: The Rat on August 27, 2011, 04:41:54 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 06, 2008, 06:09:29 AM
I built a 707-700 that was two -420s joined end to end, with uprated P&Ws and did it in PanAm colours, entitled 'Clipper Long Tom'. Until you posted that I'd forgotten I'd done it, I'll have to dig the thing out and post some pics.
And bump time for that too, your fans demand pictures! :thumbsup:
Oops, sorry, I never did post piccies of the 707-821C. (I got the model no. wrong in the original post...)
Here's a couple of piccies from my files, the model's buried in a big storage box somewhere ready for a 'one-man-show' next weekend.
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Sexy beast! :wub: :thumbsup:
Designed to compete with the Stretch Eight of course, but in reality it would have needed longer main gear, and a totally new wing root section, so it never happened, except in plastic.... ;D
:thumbsup:
The PSR work on the 777-900 is going apace. The only problem is it takes about an hour for each bout of sanding, such is the length of the darn thing! I'll have to re-primer it now, as the bumps and dents caused by the flaking filler are all but invisble with all the new filler etc.
Ho hum, such is Whiffing life..........
And just to show I don't ONLY do PSR work on this monster, here's the computer generated decal sheet that I've knocked together for it.
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There's a few windows on there. ;D
What no United/Continental (aka Varney Speed Lines 2.0)?
I look forward to seeing more Kit.
The United decals are white, which means they're impossible to print with an inkjet printer, but I have some at the right size from one of the Minicraft 777s.
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 19, 2011, 03:06:11 PM
The United decals are white, which means they're impossible to print with an inkjet printer, but I have some at the right size from one of the Minicraft 777s.
Ah...although they're now Continental Blue, with the gold speed stripe.
Nonononononono, the idea is to reproduce the newspaper advert model posted right at the start of the thread, not to update it to 2012.
And back then United were 'United Airlines' in white on grey.............
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 19, 2011, 11:44:41 PM
Nonononononono, the idea is to reproduce the newspaper advert model posted right at the start of the thread, not to update it to 2012.
And back then United were 'United Airlines' in white on grey.............
I bow, sir, to your creative insanity.
masterly kit!
hmm, is it rude to ask how you will be transporting this beasty to and from shows?
trevor
You know if you make the airliner long enough, you can do without seats: just board the self-loading-freight at the rear and by the time they've walked to the front, it's time to get off again! :thumbsup:
Excellently mad project Kit! ;D
Quote from: Howard of Effingham on September 20, 2011, 04:06:25 AM
hmm, is it rude to ask how you will be transporting this beasty to and from shows?
That's worried me too, I just don't have any carrying boxes long enough for the darn thing!
I did think about leaving the wings detachable, but then the landing gear will still be vulnerable, so I think the answer is to carry it upside down on the pull-out blind that covers the luggage compartment of my Zafira, with small cushions on each side.
As for the self-loading cargo business, check out earlier posts about communications with the cabin and flight deck crews.... ;D :lol:
I HATE PSR work! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I'm on the fifth continuous day of curing the disaster caused by the mix of putties I used to start this off. I've got rid of all the holes and bumps now, but the problem is the long wavelength dips caused by the five fuselage joints, and that takes some serious amount of putty. I've found that feeling the dips by hand is actually the best way of finding them, I get the general loacation by looking along the length and run my fingers along the 'line of dip'. I've found I can feel where they are better than I can see them!
Anyway, the PSR is nearly done now, and I've strarted on the other engine, marrying the Doyusha cold section with the Minicraft hot section. I've also added some -LR raked wing tips I got on ebay (in stanless steel, for goodness sake!) as my backstory mentions them.
Progress is going well now, Telford beckons. ;D
Seems like you ought to modify your sig line just a bit.... ;D
Having fused a few kits together in my time, I just just imagine what kind of sanding chore this is turning into...
Steady on, and good luck at Telford!
Quote from: Doc Yo on September 21, 2011, 02:58:57 PM
Seems like you ought to modify your sig line just a bit.... ;D
NO way Doc! ;D
I have to build a few models with normal winsgpan just to give myself a sense of proportion. ;D
Mind you, I have increased the span of the -900 even if it is by only a few scale feet, more piccies tomorrow with luck.
Hey, I didn't say ditch it, more along the lines of "...longer wings, or a longer fuselage..."
;)
Quote from: Doc Yo on September 21, 2011, 05:37:41 PM
Hey, I didn't say ditch it, more along the lines of "...longer wings, or a longer fuselage..."
;)
Hehehe, you could be right there! ;D
I thought I'd post the wings and engines piccies now, as that gives all night for the putty to dry on the add-on wingtips.
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The wings are OOB Minicraft ones, with the stainless tips but jointed with superglue. They both took at least three goes for it to work....
The engines are as described above, but getting the Minicraft pylon to mate with the Doyusha cold flow cowl isn't easy. Lots of carving and scraping etc. but I've done it once so I can do it again. Yeah, right..... ;D
At the end of the major PSR work, but I expect I'll need to do quite a bit more after the primer coat.
It looks TERRIBLE like this, but just goes to show the extent of the 'Putty Pox' that afflicted it!
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Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 21, 2011, 02:37:47 PM
the problem is the long wavelength dips caused by the five fuselage joints, and that takes some serious amount of putty. I've found that feeling the dips by hand is actually the best way of finding them,
A primer coat helps to find these; they show up better when the fuselage is in a single color. On my Sentinel R.1 build I applied primer (or random Humbrol gray paint) several times to make sure the surface wasn't hiding any more wobbles. I also did some spot checks, applying thinned paint with a brush over a seam or other suspect area. Not ideal; the layer of brushed-on paint is thick enough to show up if you airbrush over it, so it needs to be sanded right down, but can be quicker than having to spray the entire aircraft.
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 22, 2011, 02:42:41 AMIt looks TERRIBLE like this, ...
Are you kidding me? That's a psychedelic paint scheme that any 60s rock group would be proud to have adorning their tour aircraft! :thumbsup:
As you can see in the earlier photos the 777-900 was in one colour when I started this phase. It had already been in primer, and then gloss white, but that was before the putty reaction set in. Subsequently it's had at least three primer coats in amongst the PSR sessions and they all help of course, but the long wavelength dips are caused by the differing construction of the various parts, some injection and some vacform. As it stands I'm going to leave the very long dips, upowards of 5" long but only about 0.5 mm deep, as the differing paint schemes and decals will divert the eye........I hope! ;D
As for being pyschidelic, you should see my RW Braniff 727-200 done in the Calder scheme, now THAT'S psychidelic! ;) :o
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I've got a decal sheet for the earlier Calder DC8-62 as well, but I don't have a hull for that just yet. They should make a good pair.
Ouch...that's alot of work ! Gonna be pretty sweet when it's all done tho !
:cheers:
Looks like the PSR Enduro is over and done with! :cheers: :drink:
The last traces of the Putty Pox are gone and after priming the monster isn't looking too bad. I've primered the port engine and the new wing tips, so I've assembled the whole shebang for your viewing pleasure, and for Mrs PR19's amazement! ;D
The darn thing stretches across my couch from front to back and I'm wondering where I'm going to display it at home, it's MLES bigger than any of my shelves.
Next it's the Appliance White on the fuselage, plus some coloured sections for the Lufthansa, United and VARIG bits, and Boeing Grey for the wings and tail, and then it's the decals, which I'm really looking forward to.
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Having just re-read my previous posts I found I made a mistake about the wings.
Actually they're Doyusha inboard sections with Minicraft outers grafted on just outboard of the engines. My reasoning for that was that the Doyusha wing-to-fuselage mount is extremely well engineered, with the hefty tongues you can see in the earlier pics, whereas the Minicraft ones use their manic multi-fingered system which I never can get on with. The Minicraft outer sections are much nicer shaped though, thus my choice for them.
This does mean that I've had to make the Minicraft engine pylons fit the Doyusha slots, which isn't much fun, but it's sort of there now. A bit of PSR will sort out any discrepancies of course.
I've modified the much nicer Minicraft nose gear to fit the Doyusha nose section, but I've not started on the main gear yet. I think that'll end up being Minicraft as well, even though it has to fit the Doyusha bays, they're both pretty much the same size and shape, but the mounting holes may need to be drilled out a tad. That's some way off yet though, it's painting time tomorrow. ;D
I've tried that with the Airfix BAe Nimrod (Nimmet) 1/72, I've found some Plumbers' tubing which has the same diameter as the cockpit and raided my spares stash for the weapons/storage bay underneath. I ran into problems on the build.
The rear section has a spin top attached, but will have a different cockpit attached (C-135).
The front half has been used in the building of the Sea Nimrod. Earmarked for the Royal Flight (as it resembles the Comet MK1), but passed onto the Royal Navy as a training aircraft.
Before you ask, yes pictures will follow.
The scene : Halfords, Cribbs Causeway, Bristol around 1030 BST today
The cast : Me = PR19
Helpful Halfords Staff Member = HHSM
The situation : I'm trying to find some non-metallic grey paint that's a near match to Boeing Aircraft Company Grey, used on almost all their airliner's flying surfaces. It seems that non-metallic grey paint is only used by Ford these days, and they have 2-3 different shades so I'm trying to figure out the best match.
HHSM 'Good morning sir, what car do you drive?'
PR19 'A Zafira 1.8 Dualfuel'
HHSM 'Er, that's a Vauxhall sir, you're looking in the Ford section'
PR19 'I'm well aware that a Zafira is a Vauxhall thank you, I've had this one for almost 4 years and it's my second Zaf'
HHSM 'The paint colour won't match sir'
PR19 'I'm not looking for paint for my Zaf'
HHSM 'What Ford are you getting it for sir?'
PR19 'It's not for a car, it's for an aeroplane.........'
HHSM (with look of astonishment on his face) 'Will a spray can be large enough sir?'
PR19 'It's a very small plane' (Pulls 1/144 scale tailplane for my 777-900 already painted in Boeing Grey as a match from my pocket)
HHSM 'Oh, it's a model?'
PR19 'Yes, I do believe it is' ;D
Result : Total confusion spreads throughout other Halfords staff, none of whom seem to be aware of the number of their customers who actually use their excellent paint for use on things other than cars! ;D :lol: :rolleyes:
The best match turns out to be Ford Polar Grey BTW, not a 100% match, but good enough for Government work.
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 24, 2011, 05:39:36 AM
The best match turns out to be Ford Polar Grey BTW, not a 100% match, but good enough for Government work.
was about to suggest Ford Polar grey...
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 24, 2011, 05:39:36 AM
PR19 'It's not for a car, it's for an aeroplane.........'
HHSM (with look of astonishment on his face) 'Will a spray can be large enough sir?'
PR19 'It's a very small plane' (Pulls 1/144 scale tailplane for my 777-900 already painted in Boeing Grey as a match from my pocket)
HHSM 'Oh, it's a model?'
PR19 'Yes, I do believe it is' ;D
Brilliant - Galton and Simpson eat your heart out :thumbsup:
:thumbsup:
Today is 'Major Painting Day', lots of Tamiya tape, bent coat hangers and Halford's cans etc.
The fuselage, or should that be fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuseeeeeeeeeeeeelaaaaaaaaage, has had its final primer coat and first coat of Appliance White and is now drying. The starboard wing has also had its final primer coat and top coat of Ford (not Vauxhall....) Polar Grey, the port wing fell off the coat hanger after one pass of the can, fell on the floor and broke off its wing tip! :banghead:
To add to my troubles one of the tailplanes looks great after its top coat, but the other is so much of a basket case I've taken it right back to the plastic to start again!
Sometimes I think the darn model doesn't WANT to be finished!
These feelings are just perfectly normal paranoia Kit.
Just because you think they are out to get you does not mean that they are not. :wacko:
Keep going mate,
Jim
I think after this build though, the men wearing the starched white coats may be coming to take you away for...a rest. :D
Quote from: scooter on September 25, 2011, 01:34:09 PM
I think after this build though, the men wearing the starched white coats may be coming to take you away for...a rest. :D
I think you're right, and so does Mrs PR19! ;D
Having sorted out the port wing, now with it's tip rejoined, re-primed and now with its top coat applied, I masked up the starboard wing to paint the leading edge droops and ITS wing tip snapped off! :banghead:
I went ahead and did the droops anyway, as the busted tip was held in place by the masking tape and that came out looking great. I've now RE-attached the recalcitrant tip (more PSR work needed to hide the jont) and I'll re-paint just the tip tomorrow. The first decal is on :thumbsup: ;D :lol: as the port tailplane now has it's lower Corrogard panel in place and it looks great. (At least something does....) The fuuuuuuuuuuuseeeeeeeeeeelaaaaaaaaage has now had it's 2nd white coat on the upper side, lower side goes on tomorrow morning.
We're getting there, 47 days to go......
I got home from a couple of days doing train things and did some more work on the -900.
The fuuuuuuuuuuseeeeeeeeeeelaaaaaaage now has a final top coat applied to its upper half (I have to paint it half and half as there's no way you can support the blasted thing other than by laying flat on something) One tailplane is FINISHED ;D :thumbsup: complete with leading edge silver and upper Corrogard panels and it's been varnished. The other tailplane is masked and ready for the leading edge paint in about 10 mins.
BOTH wings now have their tips snapped off, for the fourth or fifth time! I'm getting seriously fed up with this, it would seem that stainless steel just won't bond to styrene no matter what glue I use. If it happens one more time I'm going to epoxy them on, that should do it. It wouldn't be so bad but I have to go back to PSRing the tips after every breakage and I do HATE that!
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 25, 2011, 08:37:30 AM
Today is 'Major Painting Day', lots of Tamiya tape, bent coat hangers and Halford's cans etc.
The fuselage, or should that be fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuseeeeeeeeeeeeelaaaaaaaaage, has had its final primer coat and first coat of Appliance White and is now drying. The starboard wing has also had its final primer coat and top coat of Ford (not Vauxhall....) Polar Grey, the port wing fell off the coat hanger after one pass of the can, fell on the floor and broke off its wing tip! :banghead:
To add to my troubles one of the tailplanes looks great after its top coat, but the other is so much of a basket case I've taken it right back to the plastic to start again!
Sometimes I think the darn model doesn't WANT to be finished!
I've got a couple of kits like that!!
Kit,
why not use the stainless tips as templates and make new ones out of plasticard?
Quote from: JayBee on September 28, 2011, 12:24:14 AM
why not use the stainless tips as templates and make new ones out of plasticard?
Now
that is pure genius Jim! :thumbsup:
I may yet do that if the damn things snap off again. Watch this space.......
And now it's white.....................again!
Much better this time, five coats of Halfords Appliance White did the job, the masking for the fin and wing root are off and I'm about to mask up for the coloured bits, Varig Blue, Lufthansa Grey and United Blue. The United Grey has to come later as it's right next to the Lufthansa Grey. Plus I'll do the black fin as well, hopefully all dry by this evening, but as I'm using Xtracolor paints it could be next week, they're not known for their quick drying properties! :banghead:
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Looking good,
:thumbsup:
I would not want to be a nugget on that thing. It would be waaay too easy to over-rotate!
Awesome work. Can't wait to see the finished product. :thumbsup:
Quote from: sideshowbob9 on September 28, 2011, 03:42:21 AM
I would not want to be a nugget on that thing. It would be waaay too easy to over-rotate!
The backstory says it was so long it never DID fly, and they had to convert it back to a standard -200. ;D
The first colour coats are on now, but they'll need at least three each, painting over white can be a pain.
2.5 hrs after applying three of the colour coats the Lufthansa Grey is dry, the Varig Blue is quite sticky and the black on the fin is half way dry. And they're all Xtracolor.
Go figure? :-\
I'm just in the middle of carving up sheets of Corrogard for the wings and tail. The set of '777' Corrogard that I bought for this job 3 years ago turns out to be for a 747-400, which won't fit of course! :banghead: So it's lots of scalpel work to match the various bits together, but I quite like decalling so it's not to much of a chore. ;D
I masked up the hybrid engines thiis evening, both of them having been in primer for a while now. Then sprayed the port one with Halfords Appliance White, and while putting it in the clamp assembly to dry it fell off onto the floor.................... :banghead:
All the lovely white paint is covered, nay GLUED, with grot and stuff so I put it to one side an started on the starboard one.
EXACTLY the same thing happened!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Now I have two basket case engines that ought to be white but are in a total mess. I very mearly stamped on them both but I'd spent ages mixing and matching the Doyusha and Minicraft bits to get the best shaped GE90s possible.
How the devil do I dissolve Halfords White? White spirit won't touch it and I daren't use cellulose thinners, it'll dissolve the plastic.
Excellent, thank you Duncan! :thumbsup:
To make it worse, I was wearing my usual yellow Marigolds to hold the bits while spraying, and when I picked up the wreckage the engine's 'paint job' got imprinted with the hexagons from the finger tips of the gloves! I'll leave them till the morning when the paint will be dry and I'll be off to the Co-Op for some of that magic Fairy stuff.
Got up early thiis morning to check progress and the Varig Blue is at last showing signs of drying, so I gave it and the rest of the colour areas a quick once over with Kleer.
Oddly enough the biggest problem with painting the fuuuuuuuuuseeeeeeelaaaaaaaage is to keep dirty fingerprints off the vast areas of white! With so many colours in play at the same time I can't help but get small patches of each of them on my fingertips and with all the twisting and turning I have to do to get to the various areas I end up grasping the centre section quite a lot. After each painting session I then have to go back over the white bits and clean off the smudges etc. however faint they are!
Last colour section on today, that's the United Dark Blue, and then I can start decalling, YIPPEEEEEE! ;D
The wings are finally finished now too, all the Corrogard applied and two coats of Kleer, just some small details, like nav lights, to be added once it's assembled.
I really feel as if I'm getting there now, apart from the ruddy engines, that is! :banghead:
Thanks for the tip about the white paint.
I don't know what they make that Halfords Appliance White from but they should use it to make containment veseels for nuclear reactors! :banghead:
I got the Fairy Power Spray OK (which smells AWFUL) and used it as directed but it didn't even touch the ruined engines. :angry:
Looks like it's back to the heavy duty wet-and-dry and lots of elbow bending for me.
Mrs PR19 reckons the Fairy stuff will be great for cleaning the oven though. :thumbsup:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 29, 2011, 06:11:45 AM
I don't know what they make that Halfords Appliance White from but they should use it to make containment veseels for nuclear reactors! :banghead:
I got the Fairy Power Spray OK (which smells AWFUL) and used it as directed but it didn't even touch the ruined engines. :angry:
Looks like it's back to the heavy duty wet-and-dry and lots of elbow bending for me.
Mrs PR19 reckons the Fairy stuff will be great for cleaning the oven though. :thumbsup:
I'm told that the Fairy Power Spray is very efficient at removing unwanted hair from garden gnomes!
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 29, 2011, 06:11:45 AM
Mrs PR19 reckons the Fairy stuff will be great for cleaning the oven though. :thumbsup:
yeah, stop fiddling about with that plane and make yourself useful!
The devil with cleaning the oven, I have aircraft to build! ;D
Leaving the engine disaster to one side, I carried on with painting the fuuuuuuuuuseeeeeeeeelaaaaaaaage and that job's done now, so it's decal time tomorrow! :thumbsup:
Here's the fully painted monster, minus its final Kleer coats of course. The front section with the light grey underside is the Lufthansa bit, the next section, grey on top and blue unerneath, is the United chunk, then there's a long all-white section for SAS, Thai and Air Canada, and finally the aft-most section with the blue underside is the Varig bit.
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Most impressive! Although when the pic first loaded I thought it was a large scale model of an AMRAAM!! :blink:
:o :o :o
Wow, nice, but where are the canards to help its nose rotate? ;D
Quote from: sideshowbob9 on September 29, 2011, 05:46:23 PM
Most impressive! Although when the pic first loaded I thought it was a large scale model of an AMRAAM!! :blink:
When I took it to my local model club in 2008, in its first gestation before the 'Putty Pox' struck, it was immediately dubbed 'Kit's Sidewinder'. ;D
And it'll need considerably more action on the part of Burnoulli than canards to get THAT thing into the air!
This build thread threatens to be longer than the model............... ;D
I started on the decals today, and thank goodness I printed lots of spares! The forward left hand door took FOUR attempts to get one to stay in the right position and un-wrinkled! These PC manufactured decals are very thin and the decal film they use tends to curl up at the edges, thus you need to cut wider than normal borders. I eventually managed to do all five doors on the left had side and then started on the Thai Airlines decal in the middle as that defines the position of the windows vis a vis the doors and everything else.
That's when I found that too much Micro-Sol leaches the colour out of the decal!!!! :banghead:
The whole lower side of the aircraft turned pink and the decal went transparent. Disaster, as I hadn't duplicted the Thai stuff, so it was back to the laptop to make some new ones. They're currently being varnished so progress will resume in about an hour I gues, but only with water, not 'Sol. I've also got the Star Alliance fin markings on and they look really great. ;D
Piccies this evening with luck, depending how far I've got.
NOW we're cooking with gas! ;D :lol:
Got the basic decals on the left hand side, and I had to re-print most of them as the 3 yr delay between me making the first lot would seem to the be cause of the colour leaching problem. Newly printed ones work just great and snuggle down nicely without the aid of 'Sol.
I have some small detail decals to add yet, plus all the other side of course. Then it's back to the darned engines, final assembly and adding the landing gear. 42 days to go.........
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The good side....
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The 'nude' side. ;)
That's the dogs dangles right there, Kit. Excellent! :wub:
Makes me want to dig out my 777 project.
Hmm?!....
A 2nd set of wings, forward & above the current set?....
Say centred over the SAS/United interface?....
Not quite so narrow at the tips (either set) & joined by some type of faring?....
Hmm?!....
NO!!! I refuse to be drawn into the world of civil aircraft!! I like mine pugnaceous!
Looking good, Kit!
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 30, 2011, 05:43:47 PM
I have some small detail decals to add yet, plus all the other side of course. Then it's back to the darned engines, final assembly and adding the landing gear. 42 days to go.........
Bound to be several people at SMW saying you just jut up and stuck some 777 fuselages end to end to make this not realising how much work and time has gone into this.
Gondor
Quote from: Gondor on October 01, 2011, 03:48:37 AM
Bound to be several people at SMW saying you just jut up and stuck some 777 fuselages end to end to make this not realising how much work and time has gone into this.
I fully expect that, yes.
But then they would probably never tried it and probably won't even be airliner modellers. I don't care, I've wanted to build that beast for 15 years, and now I have. ;D
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The good side....
This looks very impressive Kit, are you going to do the other side with other airlines schemes ?
No, it's symmetrical as there were only six members of the Star Alliance when they were running the advert. It'll be just the same as the port side and in the same order too. The only differences are the various logos will be 'handed'.
Still got to do those blasted engines though. :banghead:
Famous Pr_19 quote:
"Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings"
Apparently you have taken on a new mantra and "switched" to fuselages! ;)
>Since then I've always wanted to make that 777 and 2008 is the year!<
You've s-t-r-e-t-c-h-ed out the building time almost as much as the fuselage!!
Good thing this is a "flying" model, or you would need a dozen "nosewheels" along the fuselage!!
And...anthonyp...canards are not necessary to lift the nose--an announcement comes on the Tannoy that all passengers are to rush to the rear on takeoff (kinda like "Das Boot").
As far as side-to-side manuvering---when the runway itself is built pointed directly at the destination, no deviation is necessary!!
After the Star Alliance was done with the "promo" plane, I heard they scoured out the inside and made another "Chunnel" out of it!
Anyway, classic, beautiful build!
Quote from: sequoiaranger on October 01, 2011, 08:24:49 AM
Famous Pr_19 quote:
"Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings"
Apparently you have taken on a new mantra and "switched" to fuselages! ;)
Anything is better if it's longer, or so I'm told anyway........... ;)
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 30, 2011, 05:43:47 PM
NOW we're cooking with gas! ;D :lol:
Got the basic decals on the left hand side, and I had to re-print most of them as the 3 yr delay between me making the first lot would seem to the be cause of the colour leaching problem. Newly printed ones work just great and snuggle down nicely without the aid of 'Sol.
I have some small detail decals to add yet, plus all the other side of course. Then it's back to the darned engines, final assembly and adding the landing gear. 42 days to go.........
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The good side....
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The 'nude' side. ;)
OUCH! :wacko:
I'm doing some work for my old firm this week coming, down in Hampshire, and as decalling is one thing that you can do in a hotel room without making too much of a mess I'm taking the -900 with me so I can continue. ;)
Goodness KNOWS what the room cleaners will think when they see that monster but I've printed out a big 'DO NOT TOUCH' sign just so they don't undo all my good work.............
If you're still having issues with the decals, Bare-metal Foil Co. (http://www.bare-metal.com/) in Michigan makes AWESOME decal paper and liquid decal film. They make their sheets in 8 1/2" x 11" and come in clear and white background. I use that along with the liquid decal film to make my custom decals. They work great together.
As for the monstrosity (which I'm calling this from now on), looks AWESOME!!! Hopefully nothing happens to it while you're away from home base.
The stuff I'm using is from a UK company called 'The Crafty Computer Paper Company' and they sell similar stuff to the Bare Metal Foil paper etc.
The problems I had were almost certainly caused by the length of time between me printing off the original set and trying to use them more recently. It was over 3 years between the two events and a set of newly printed decals worked just fine.
That'll teach me not to get ahead of myself. ;D
The decalling is done. ;D :thumbsup:
Only interrupted by some prats smoking in their room in this hotel and setting the fire alarms off at just past midnight! :banghead: Luckily I'd JUST dried off the last decal, the rearmost one of the roof escape hatches, when it went off or I might have dropped the darn thing and wrecked it. After 10 mins in the car park I'm back inside and posting this, thank goodness.
I did some 'No step' lines for the wings and tail and also a pair of wing escape routes as well, and shrunk a couple of Lufthansa 'storks' for the nose and then spent most of the evening finishing off the starboard side and all the detail bits. So it's just the engines :banghead: and landing gear and we go for final assembly, some time next week I guess as all that stuff is still at home.
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How every hotel work surface should look.... ;)
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The whole thing. It's so long I can't get it all in focus at once!
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Front third.
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Middle third.
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Aft third.
Love your work surface! This is looking to be a great model. :thumbsup:
Glad I don't have to do the daily check/ramp1 on that thing!, it would take most of night to do the Walk around :o
Looks real good :thumbsup:
regards
Keith
Quote from: sideshowbob9 on October 05, 2011, 04:06:08 AM
Love your work surface! This is looking to be a great model. :thumbsup:
Premier Inn I take it Kit ;D
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 05, 2011, 07:25:30 AM
Quote from: sideshowbob9 on October 05, 2011, 04:06:08 AM
Love your work surface! This is looking to be a great model. :thumbsup:
Premier Inn I take it Kit ;D
Indeed! :thumbsup:
Mrs. PR19 calls them 'Purple Palaces', and you can see why 'cos the model is posed on that weird sash thing they put across the foot of the bed. ;D
Kit, that is weird :o, perverse :blink:, and totally unflyable :-\.
AND I LOVE IT!!! :wub: :thumbsup:
What a magnificently ridiculous creation. Are the flight crew issued with bicycles to get about?
Many years ago, at the first flight of the Bristol Freighter, the pilot turned to the copilot and said "I say, Stanley, my side is airbourne, is yours?" Suggestions please as to the comments made by the flight crew on the first flight of this wondrous device. It looks longer than most of the runways I've flown in and out of on the various Orkney islands.
Quote from: Rheged on October 06, 2011, 01:19:26 AM
What a magnificently ridiculous creation. Are the flight crew issued with bicycles to get about?
Many years ago, at the first flight of the Bristol Freighter, the pilot turned to the copilot and said "I say, Stanley, my side is airbourne, is yours?" Suggestions please as to the comments made by the flight crew on the first flight of this wondrous device. It looks longer than most of the runways I've flown in and out of on the various Orkney islands.
Hehehe, actually there's a mono-rail down the port side aisle for the crew......... ;D
I think that was the Blackburn Beverley that the Capt. asked about the FO's side being airborne or not. I read it in the Beverley book only about a month ago, and having flown quite a few hours in Bevs I can quite believe it too!
In the back story of the 777-900 it never does get airborne, ever, because it's so long it can't rotate to a steep enough angle. So what the crew probably said was 'Aaaaaggghhhhhhhhh, we're not going to make it! Full reverse and brakes!' :lol:
It scales out at 389 ft long...............
Quote from: The Rat on October 05, 2011, 07:45:35 PM
Kit, that is weird :o, perverse :blink:, and totally unflyable :-\.
AND I LOVE IT!!! :wub: :thumbsup:
Same here. Remove the wings, tail and stabs and it would make a great train.
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 06, 2011, 05:36:23 AM
Quote from: Rheged on October 06, 2011, 01:19:26 AM
What a magnificently ridiculous creation. Are the flight crew issued with bicycles to get about?
Many years ago, at the first flight of the Bristol Freighter, the pilot turned to the copilot and said "I say, Stanley, my side is airbourne, is yours?" Suggestions please as to the comments made by the flight crew on the first flight of this wondrous device. It looks longer than most of the runways I've flown in and out of on the various Orkney islands.
Hehehe, actually there's a mono-rail down the port side aisle for the crew......... ;D
I think that was the Blackburn Beverley that the Capt. asked about the FO's side being airborne or not. I read it in the Beverley book only about a month ago, and having flown quite a few hours in Bevs I can quite believe it too!
In the back story of the 777-900 it never does get airborne, ever, because it's so long it can't rotate to a steep enough angle. So what the crew probably said was 'Aaaaaggghhhhhhhhh, we're not going to make it! Full reverse and brakes!' :lol:
It scales out at 389 ft long...............
Failing memory on my part yet again. You are indeed right, it WAS the Beverley.
I've never flown in a Beverley, but I have been in one when the Army Museum of Transport was open in the town of Beverley. I'm told that on long deployments, lime juice was issued to the crew to prevent scurvy.
I'd assumed that the 777-900 didn't actually take off as such, it just travelled straight and level and the runway fell away under it due to the curvature of the earth. Pretty much the same procedure appears to be used by loaded B-52's. It must be a Boeing thing.
I've posted the backstory for the 777-900, even though it's not quite finished yet.
It's here http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,33652.new.html#new (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,33652.new.html#new) and it's the text of the label that will be with the model at Telford, minus the modelling bits that I'll add at the end.
I had benn follow this thread closely and the finished is really good. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Pablo1965 on October 06, 2011, 07:45:21 AM
I had benn follow this thread closely and the finished is really good. :thumbsup:
Let me get the engines and wheels on, maybe next week sometime, then I'll take some outdoor piccies. Goodness knows what the neighbours will think.... ;)
Quote from: Rheged on October 06, 2011, 06:08:21 AM
I'd assumed that the 777-900 didn't actually take off as such, it just travelled straight and level and the runway fell away under it due to the curvature of the earth. Pretty much the same procedure appears to be used by loaded B-52's. It must be a Boeing thing.
A lot of airbases for heavies have a gradual central shallow dip in the contour, both to angle the planes that do not rotate so easily on liftoff, AND to assist in braking for arriving machines, slowing them by travelling "uphill".
I wonder how, if a 777-900 was able to fly, the passengers would feel in the rear seats, looking down that central aisle and watching the undulating of turbulence in the airframe, like travelling in a "slinky" toy.
Quote from: RussC on October 06, 2011, 02:29:22 PM
I wonder how, if a 777-900 was able to fly, the passengers would feel in the rear seats, looking down that central aisle and watching the undulating of turbulence in the airframe, like travelling in a "slinky" toy.
I've seen that for myself Russ. In the '80s I worked in Holland a lot, flying back and forth to Schiphol, and back then KLM used DC9-30s on the route usually but on a Friday night they laid on two DC8-63s as there was so much demand. I liked to sit in the very last pax row and you could SEE the fuselage bend as the aircraft rotated! You also got dinner with KLM on a 55 min. flight, something that BA didn't even try. ;D
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 06, 2011, 04:04:54 PM
You also got dinner with KLM on a 55 min. flight, something that BA didn't even try. ;D
Had dinner on BA flights back from Paris a couple of times ;D
Last time I flew KLM I thought they were going to drive me to Gatwick on the M23 - it must have taken 40 mins to taxi from the terminal to the then new runway it was that far away :banghead:
Most of my recent flying has been done around the Orkneys with Loganair in B-N Islanders. On a flight back from Westray to Kirkwall the driver spotted a pod of killer whales, and circled it at about 500 feet so that everyone could see them. No in-flight meals, but on one flight last year the pilot offered round his bag of wine gums. This is why Loganair is my favourite airline
Quote from: Rheged on October 07, 2011, 01:49:42 AM
On a flight back from Westray to Kirkwall the driver spotted a pod of killer whales, and circled it at about 500 feet so that everyone could see them.
Fantastic experiance, similar to Imperial Airways in the 30's when they circled the Pyramids or herds of wild animals for the passengers to view
Some of the smaller carriers here in Aridzona will circle the Grand Canyon or Meteor Crater that way. Southwest and America West are too bound by their routes for that, if you circled, you would wind up in the face of the next jet behind you in the string going all the way back to the East Coast airports.
If you tried that trick in a 777-900 you'd probably meet YOURSELF coming back the other way! ;D
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Very nice Kit! Just read 7 pages of build log, the end is defiantly worth all that work
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Okay Kit, there's a challenge, model THAT! ;D
As we're likely to say in the Forest of Dean 'On yerrrr boike!'.
I have absolutely NO idea how you'd do that, apart from starting with some water pipe perhaps?
Belated congratulations for this weird bunch of elongated airliners... :thumbsup:
Ahem... :-\ maybe you could go and see a Freudian psychiatrist... don't worry: many women say "length is not that important", ahem :-\ ;D
Quote from: Tophe on October 14, 2011, 08:12:44 PM
Belated congratulations for this weird bunch of elongated airliners... :thumbsup:
Ahem... :-\ maybe you could go and see a Freudian psychiatrist... don't worry: many women say "length is not that important", ahem :-\ ;D
Tophe, for your sake I'm sorry it's not assymetric, I could have only fitted one engine I guess. ;D ;)
The monster engines are just about done now, a few decals to add and a coat of Kleer and they'll be ready to attach to the wings. The 737-200 is there to show just how HUGE the GE90 engines are!
I've started on the landing gear, and for an airline modeller I just HATE painting all the zillions of wheels on the darn things. There's 14 of them in the case of a 777, the two nose-wheels being a tad smaller than the main wheels. But to give me something to think about Minicraft manage to tag the two nose-wheels as if they're main wheels and two of the main wheels are tagged as nose-wheels, very handy. :banghead:
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Is it the same scale? are you sure? or just a joke mixing 737 at 1/72nd and engines at 1/48th? (an engine cannot be as big as a fuselage, can it?) :blink:
Quote from: Tophe on October 15, 2011, 09:43:11 AM
Is it the same scale? are you sure? or just a joke mixing 737 at 1/72nd and engines at 1/48th? (an engine cannot be as big as a fuselage, can it?) :blink:
Yes, they're both 1/144th. The GE90's diameter is greater than that of a 737's fuselage!
It seems there is no limit or point of diminishing returns to the up-sizing of high bypass turbofans yet to be seen. Maybe someday, the passengers will sit inside the fixed core of the intake bullet and the blades move around them. The cowling will provide the lift and the exhaust vanes and apertures all of the directional control. Welcome back to the Caproni Stipa and Custer Channelwing... :banghead: :lol:
Quote from: RussC on October 15, 2011, 10:34:36 AM
Maybe someday, the passengers will sit inside the fixed core of the intake bullet and the blades move around them. The cowling will provide the lift and the exhaust vanes and apertures all of the directional control. Welcome back to the Caproni Stipa and Custer Channelwing... :banghead: :lol:
BAGS of scope there for Whiffing! ;D
And I have loads of big fan engines filed away too, I might try something like that, thanks for the pointer Russ. :thumbsup:
Mrs PR19 just asked me 'How old is that little model?' pointing at the Aloha 737-200 in the previous piccie. I thought a bit and came to the conclusion it's FOURTY years old next year! I built it in 1972 and won the airliner class at the Nationals that year.
Sounds like we shoud throw a birthday party for it. ;D :cheers: :drink: :party:
I was wondering about how old, the white paint has clearly aged a bit. You have been building for as long as I have. In 1972, I was scratchbuilding a Yak-28 because there was just no kit of it around, even from the very fewer Eastern European makers than there are today, I think VEB was all there was.
White paint is strange, there's no saying how it will change with time. That 1972 built 737-200 was painted with standard Humbrol Gloss White mainly because I didn't know any better at the time. A much later build of a Brittania 737-200 was painted with Halfords Appliance White and was the first model I ever used Kleer on. By now, some 18 odd years later, the white is VERY yellow.
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 15, 2011, 11:33:42 PMWhite paint is strange, there's no saying how it will change with time.
I think a big factor would be Sun exposure. A lot of my old builds are boxed and in my parent's attic, and a few years ago I hauled out my old Otaki Galaxy to take some digital pictures. That was built in the early 70s, and the white is as beautiful today as it was then. Can't remember what I used, but probably a Testors rattlecan, don't think there was much else available at that time.
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Nice C5 build! I made mine in the Lizard scheme and later felt that the two-tone would have been better. Reminds me of the time I was on a flight up the US east coast and we passed over Dover AFB and our captain made note over the speakers that we were over the home of the C-5 galaxy. Sure enough, even at 40K feet, the C-5s were easily seen, even the markings! I get the feel that the captain really wanted to take a turn at the controls of a galaxy instead of puttering back and forth in that 727.
Big Aircraft....
Has anyone here whiffed a biggest airplane ever? Would have to be very small scale like 1/700 or 1/1000. Could really be a steampunk thing or a super illustration from Popular Mechanics.
[quote author=RussC link=topic=22298.msg529794#msg529794 date=1318804985I get the feel that the captain really wanted to take a turn at the controls of a galaxy instead of puttering back and forth in that 727.[/quote]
Reminds me of the old story, probably a tall tale, about the military cargo aircraft and the civilian airliner passing each other on the ramp at an airport. The civvy called his counterpart on the radio and said "Nice, how much are you grossing?" The military guy replied, "Oh, probably about a hundred thousand pounds more than you, what are you grossing?" The airline pilot replied "Oh, about a hundred thousand dollars more than you." Silence... ;D
Too true!
And maybe he was just thinking about his next ANG weekend or summer deploy at the wheel of the C-5's, when we passed over Maryland. Nowadays, civil pilots are not paid or benefitted well either. You just have to have a love for doing it.
Crews on the 777-900 were paid by the yard of course........ ;D
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 17, 2011, 12:18:13 AM
Crews on the 777-900 were paid by the yard of course........ ;D
Obviously millionaires by now!
Today is final assembly day for 'The Monster', I attached the wing/engine assemblies over the last two evenings and it's the landing gear's turn today.
Being the beast that it is the darn thing is fighting me all the way. Each engine pylon was a different width to its partner so the recesses in the wing undersides are too wide for one them, so that's a post-paint PSR job before Telford in prospect. The port wings fitted a treat but the starboard one was about 0.5 mm too low on the heavy duty wing tongues moulded into the fuselage, so that took some serious Dremel work to move it up the required amount. Even so it will need some light PSR work (post-paint!) on the underside of the joint.
The Minicraft landing gear legs fit the Doyusha wing roots OK, but there's no way the Minicraft bracing struts would fit even their own wing roots without the legs leaning back at an outrageous angle! So yet again I had to use a mix of Minicraft and Doyusha parts to build the assemblies. Having sorted that out it then turns out it's impossible to fit the retraction struts in place, I only have two joints on each finger and my hands are 1:1 scale, not the 1:5 scale that's required for this, so those struts weren't fitted to the -900 variant..... ;)
And right at the end, when I was fitting the main bogies at the correct pitch angle, the nose leg snapped off! :banghead:
So just now it's propped up on some Blu-Tak while the bogies set, and then I'll have to drill and pin the nose leg.
All this because I'm determined to take it to my local model club tonight. It may not be 100% done by then, but it'll be 99% anyway.
That's it, JOB DONE at last!
I may add some VOR aerials and a tail bumper later but that's small stuff.
I give you the Star Alliance 777-900 in its entirety!
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Stunning! :party: :bow:
Well done Kit, this'll turn a few heads at SMW.
WOW!!!!
And you managed to succeed without having to pull out the "love-me" jacket, Kit. :cheers:
Very nice work, indeed
Quote from: giraffeboy on October 20, 2011, 09:07:32 AM
WOW!!!!
AGREED, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW seems to be the only possible comment!!
That is great! :lol:
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he! he! he!. Very nice job Kit --- now be prepared to be massacred by the purist :lol: :lol: :lol:
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That is AWESOME! Just doesn't get better. Definately worth all that effort, the result is smashing! :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
EPIC WIN
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It was a pleasure to follow up this work. It's awesome, congratulations.
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Quote from: kitnut617 on October 20, 2011, 09:35:46 AM
he! he! he!. Very nice job Kit --- now be prepared to be massacred by the purist :lol: :lol: :lol:
Nah, the purist/JMN is going to have their brains melt and escape through their ears from the sheer epicness of the build
Thanks so much for the enthusiasm gentlemen, I'm suitably flattered. ;D
I took The Monster to my local model club tonight and even the Secretary smiled, and he's never been able to see the point of Whiffing before. Most of the other guys just fell about laughing. :lol: ;D
Might have gotten a few more laughs if you morphed the Varig name marking into "Viagra"..... :rolleyes:
A thought occurs, does your ticket price and service level differ depending on which section of this flying baguette you are seated in?
This is an awesome idea and build, PR. Kudo's :bow:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 20, 2011, 03:53:16 PMI took The Monster to my local model club tonight and even the Secretary smiled, and he's never been able to see the point of Whiffing before. Most of the other guys just fell about laughing. :lol: ;D
Makes it all worthwhile, doesn't it? ;D
Quote from: RussC on October 20, 2011, 04:06:17 PM
Might have gotten a few more laughs if you morphed the Varig name marking into "Viagra"..... :rolleyes:
Ya know that is also the name of a Ukrainian girls' singing group...of course its spelled and pronounced Via Gra. :D
Some over-serious observers would say: "Hey, why only 2 engines for a so huge and heavy plane?! :blink:".
I disagree... :angry: : with modern turbofans, a single jet has a huge power you know (Kit is fully right :thumbsup: while uh...) a single jet version would be enough - yes: asymmetric with the jet under the port wing... :blink: ahem. No? ;)
Man, that is one awesomely BIG L O N G phallic compensator aircraft. :o
Very, very, very good job all-round, Kit! :thumbsup: :cheers: :bow:
For once I realy am lost for words. :blink: :thumbsup: :wub: :bow:
:blink:
Did you have to rent a van to be able to transport it to the model meeting? :rolleyes:
>...the Secretary smiled, and he's never been able to see the point of Whiffing before.<
Of course, "the point" of whiffing, just like "replicating", is to create a model that pleases onself. Surely anyone but hard-core JMN snobs can see that.
Quote from: sequoiaranger on October 22, 2011, 09:24:15 AM
Did you have to rent a van to be able to transport it to the model meeting? :rolleyes:
I wasn't as simple as usual, but it fits across the pull-out bilnd over the luggage compartment of my Zafira OK. With the aid of four square pillows filched from my couch at home it had a soft ride there and back.
Excellent! ;D ;D ;D :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
You really need to display it with the original advert as "photographic proof".... ;)
Quote from: Weaver on October 22, 2011, 11:40:21 AM
Excellent! ;D ;D ;D :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
You really need to display it with the original advert as "photographic proof".... ;)
That's the plan. It's entered in Class 34 (otherwise called the 'Mushroom'....) at the Nationals, sorry SMW 2011, and I have a backstory placard with the advert piccie at the top for the competition. I also still have the original advert, complete with normal newspaper text on the back, in case any JMN doubts my motives. ;)
Stunning finish Kit, you do realise though you will probably get nicked for possession of a dangerous weapon at Telford ? ;D
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 25, 2011, 07:27:35 AM
Stunning finish Kit, you do realise though you will probably get nicked for possession of a dangerous weapon at Telford ? ;D
Hehehe, you bet! I'm
seriously looking forward to watching the faces of everyone else when I carry it in there, should be worth videoing even. ;) ;D :lol:
Just superb - simple as that !
Ian
I'm dead chuffed to say that 'The Monster' took a Bronze Medal in the 'Mushroom' at Telford this year, (otherwise known as Class 34....) ;D
Actually the nose was in Class 33, the tail in Class 35 and only the centre bit was in Class 34....... :lol:
Even better was that it took the 'Best on Stand' mug, given by my peers on the What If SIG stand. thanks VERY much gentlemen, that meant a lot. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 14, 2011, 01:28:51 AM
I'm dead chuffed to say that 'The Monster' took a Bronze Medal in the 'Mushroom' at Telford this year, (otherwise known as Class 34....) ;D
Actually the nose was in Class 33, the tail in Class 35 and only the centre bit was in Class 34....... :lol:
That reminds me of the Johnny Cash song "One piece at a time"
Gondor
Congratulations on the wins Kit. It's a shame that the nose and tail didn't win classes 33 & 35 respectively that would have been a hell of a clean sweep!!!!
Well done Kit. That was a pretty neat project.
Neat? NEAT? :o
It's anything but neat Tom, it takes up half of our sideboard at the moment, until I build a new shelf for it anyway. ;D ;) :lol:
But glad you like it, thanks. It does seem to have been well accepted, at least in the Whiff community anyway. The JMNs seem to have HATED it. ;D
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 17, 2011, 07:53:32 AMThe JMNs seem to have HATED it. ;D
You know them...they seem to hate everything
Why did Vauxhall go with such an awkward handbrake? Driven a few of them to car auctions, very roomy, but you need to lower the head restrains otherwise you can't see that well out the back.
I'm not quite sure how this got 'drifted' into Vauxhalls, but it depends which Vauxhall you're talking about. They have various different hand brake designs depending on the model concerned.
Mate, the correct pronunciation is Holden... ;)
Quote from: MilitaryAircraft101 on November 23, 2011, 09:21:09 PM
Mate, the correct pronunciation is Holden... ;)
Yeah, but they only work upside-down. ;D ;)
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 24, 2011, 02:10:48 AM
Quote from: MilitaryAircraft101 on November 23, 2011, 09:21:09 PM
Mate, the correct pronunciation is Holden... ;)
Yeah, but they only work upside-down. ;D ;)
Which is why I guess the new GTO was yet another nail in the Pontiac coffin in the States.
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 24, 2011, 02:10:48 AM
Quote from: MilitaryAircraft101 on November 23, 2011, 09:21:09 PM
Mate, the correct pronunciation is Holden... ;)
Yeah, but they only work upside-down. ;D ;)
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What do you mean :unsure: ;)
That's the exception: IIRC it was developed by Opel in Germany.
Quote from: Hobbes on November 28, 2011, 12:49:05 AM
That's the exception: IIRC it was developed by Opel in Germany.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;)
Infamy, Infamy!
The 777-900's piccie appears in the latest IPMS Magazine, on the first full page of photos of this year's Nationals!
That's the first time ANY of my models have appeared in the IPMS mag as far as I can remember, so I'm really chuffed! ;D :lol:
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 29, 2011, 02:59:03 AM
Infamy, Infamy!
The 777-900's piccie appears in the latest IPMS Magazine, on the first full page of photos of this year's Nationals!
That's the first time ANY of my models have appeared in the IPMS mag as far as I can remember, so I'm really chuffed! ;D :lol:
Congrats Kit :thumbsup: :cheers:
Awesome & well deserved, Kit! Time to party, dude! :party: :cheers: :party: :drink: :party: