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General Modelling Forum => General Modeling topics => Topic started by: The Rat on September 16, 2008, 05:31:01 PM

Title: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: The Rat on September 16, 2008, 05:31:01 PM
Yes, I said WWONE. Not Two. As we all know at least 95% of all armour models are German WWII, but I'm looking for a kit of something from about 1918. I need cheap and cheerful, since it's only going to be whiffed anyway, I have no experience doing armour, and, well, I'm tight-fisted. Anything out there or am I, once again, urinating contrary to the prevailing airflow?
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: pyro-manic on September 16, 2008, 05:42:53 PM
Right, I'm not an expert, but Hannants turns up the following for the A7V tank:

EDIT: Argh, that link is mangled by the forum tags. Just do a search for "A7V" and you get a few results - a couple of 1:35 kits by Tauro, and a 1:72 by Emhar. :) IIRC, the Germans also used some captured British tanks, so you could get away with using one of those perhaps. Again, I know Emhar do kits, and there may be others out there.

Hope that's of some use. :)
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: Daryl J. on September 16, 2008, 05:59:40 PM
I'd love to have input too as one of my living-away projects is a 1/32 Hobbycraft Sopwith Camel  converted to a sort-of Sopwith Scooter and would love to have some circa 1850-1925 era hardware to support it.   I was just perusing the Squadron Flyer last night for DubyaDubya Eye stuff besides the Male/Female tanks and the like.


Daryl J., the ignorant
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: The Rat on September 16, 2008, 06:22:40 PM
Quote from: pyro-manic on September 16, 2008, 05:42:53 PMIIRC, the Germans also used some captured British tanks, so you could get away with using one of those perhaps.

If true then THAT helps immensely, because I'm certain Airfix did one. If not I might get away without armour at all, this idea is so crazy it could apply to anything, even aircraft...

HOLY CRAP!!! Just had a flash of (possibly scotch fueled) inspiration while punching keys. Screw the armour, I need a cheap Albatross, or Gotha, or... anything WWI Hun!
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: Daryl J. on September 16, 2008, 07:21:33 PM
Albatros D.III Weekend Kit in 1/48 provides an extra upper wing and runs pretty inexpensive.    The D.V Weekend kit is also generally available too.
[Edit] Yes, Eduard make them.   Sorry for not mentioning.


Daryl J.
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: Glenn on September 16, 2008, 07:26:55 PM
If you want to see a 'real' A7V, you'll have to come to Brisbane...yeah, Australia...where you'll see the ONLY ONE LEFT!! in out Queensland Museum. Both the British and the US had one, both gone now...target practise I think, but ours was captured by a Queensland Regiment and has been in Brisbane since 1919.
Glenn
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: The Rat on September 16, 2008, 07:33:07 PM
Sounds like a plan Daryl, is it Eduard makes those? Don't know if I've ever seen any up here.
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: Radish on September 17, 2008, 12:02:23 AM
The Eduard WW1 kits are magnificent.

If you want armour, the best way in 1/72nd is EMHAR who do a few, from the British Mark IV to the Whippet.
In 1/35th, I'd do EMHAR again....the Tauro A7V is impressive but an appalling kit to make....my brother did one.

HAT also do a French WW1 tank in 1/72nd as well, a Renault, in snap-together form....2 kits in a box and pretty. I've seen those in German markings too.
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: Aircav on September 17, 2008, 12:13:26 AM
There's the FT-17 you get with the Char B by Matchbox/Revell too.
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: Maverick on September 17, 2008, 12:39:49 AM
RPM also do an FT-17 in 35th scale and there's a couple of Model T conversions by them as well.  They're buildable (to a point, if a little rough & you've gotta like indy track links  :angry: :banghead: in most instances). 

And of course, Revell, Roden and a couple of others do reasonably priced aircraft in 72nd.
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: Brian da Basher on September 17, 2008, 01:27:37 AM
Squadron (http://www.squadron.com/) has a 1/72 Eduard Albatros D.V (http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=EU07101) going for less than $4 that's very buildable. It was the basis for my recent Polish "Spatatross" (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,21154.0.html).
:cheers:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: Mossie on September 17, 2008, 03:41:23 AM
Quote from: The Rat on September 16, 2008, 06:22:40 PM
Quote from: pyro-manic on September 16, 2008, 05:42:53 PMIIRC, the Germans also used some captured British tanks, so you could get away with using one of those perhaps.

If true then THAT helps immensely, because I'm certain Airfix did one. If not I might get away without armour at all, this idea is so crazy it could apply to anything, even aircraft...

Definately, in fact the Gemans favoured captured British tanks over the A7V, which was a bit of a dog.

Emhar are due out a French Schneider CA1 which could be used too, although it's been promised for some time.  They also so do a British Whippet medium tank, in both 1/35 & 1/72.  The Emhar kits should be easily availble & they're reasonably priced.
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: NARSES2 on September 17, 2008, 06:30:49 AM
The German's had more captured British tanks (both MKiv's, V's and Whippets) then own build A7V's, so you are best using those with big German crosses.

They did produce a prototype of the A7U - a British style rhomboidal hull with a large fixed casement. 2 heavy K-Wagen breakthrough tanks were under construction prior to the Armistice - 148 tonnes, 4 7.7cm guns and 7 mg's. Under construction at the war's end was the LKII and III light tanks wich became the basis of the Swedish Strv m21.

These are avilable in very expensive resin in 1/35 from Germany. A guy I met at a show who had built them said that although they were expensive they were poor kits.

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pancerna.pl/lk/strv.03.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pancerna.pl/lk.htm&h=678&w=991&sz=82&hl=en&start=6&um=1&usg=__TIGqqQcSbGauho1NEhsbAPhnBfk=&tbnid=6qpLWAWG4kJHNM:&tbnh=102&tbnw=149&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dstrv%2Bm21%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ie%3DUTF-8 (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pancerna.pl/lk/strv.03.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pancerna.pl/lk.htm&h=678&w=991&sz=82&hl=en&start=6&um=1&usg=__TIGqqQcSbGauho1NEhsbAPhnBfk=&tbnid=6qpLWAWG4kJHNM:&tbnh=102&tbnw=149&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dstrv%2Bm21%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ie%3DUTF-8)
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: jcf on September 17, 2008, 08:13:02 AM
Nothing to add to the others kit recommendations, do have a link to great WWI ground vehicle reference and modelling:
http://www.landships.freeservers.com/ (http://www.landships.freeservers.com/)

Jon
Title: Re: Nedd a German WWI tank expert, STAT!
Post by: The Rat on September 17, 2008, 08:55:02 AM
'Tanks' for all the info guys, but it looks like an aircraft would be the easiest to procure. Now all I have to do is scrounge around under seat cushions and the like for old ballpoint pens...