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Picture Post => Current and Finished Projects => Topic started by: Glenn on December 21, 2003, 06:39:28 PM

Title: The Wing
Post by: Glenn on December 21, 2003, 06:39:28 PM
I know, strictly speaking, it didn't exist but.....as a movie prop, it was very successful. Being one of my favourite movies of the 1980's, it was a must for my collection, the only problem was, there was no model, and more to the problem, no plan. Using the movie video tape as a template, I worked out the shape and estimated the span to be at least 109 foot. The more I saw of the Wing sequence, the more detail I found, until I had enough to draw up a set of full plans.
With the plans, worked out the best size to build to, (1/35th) to a span of about 3 foot.
Construction...............The basic frame work.....Balsa
                                Filling in the gaps...........White Foam (used to make
                                                                    surfboards)
                                Cover...........................paper, as if making a flying
                                                                    model.
                                Control surfaces ............solid balsa
                                Bought parts..................Props/ machine guns
                                                                     crew and main wheels
                                turret and cockpit canopy...things found at supermarket
                                nose of canopy...............half dome with cross pieces.
                                 
                                                     The Negative Side
From the moment I saw the movie, I've loved this aircraft, but, if ever there was a prop, that wouldn't get off the ground, this would be it!
1.  With the pusher props, there are no prop guards, below to stop the props hitting the ground on take-off and landing.
2.  Why are there intakes under the engines facing the props, when the engine intakes are in the leading edge of the wing?
3.  The engines look too small to lift a 'thing' this size
4.   The turret platform only gives the gunner a small area in between the props, and the forward guns look big enough to sink the Big E! With them firing, the wing would go backwards!
5.   The Undercart! The oleo leg mountings are strong enough to support the Golden Gate Bridge.
6.   And last of all, when I watch the movie now, when the Wing sequence comes on, I can't watch it, as when I made the model it was 'watch, freeze, rewind, repeat, repeat, repeat!
Title: The Wing
Post by: Shasper on December 21, 2003, 06:47:36 PM
Super job dude! ;)

Ves B)  
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Post by: Tophe on December 21, 2003, 08:57:36 PM
:wub:  Lovely...  :wub:  
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Post by: Ollie on December 21, 2003, 09:03:18 PM
Excellent!  Vickers actually built the one used in the movie.  I always wondered what kind of engine they put in there, probably Gypsy Majors or Gypsy Queens!

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Post by: Tophe on December 21, 2003, 09:11:06 PM
Found this in my twin-boom archives... Does that help ?
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Post by: elmayerle on December 21, 2003, 10:50:00 PM
Well, that confirms one thing I'd always suspected, that the N-1M had served as a definite inspiration to whoever designed that wing.
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Post by: Alvis on December 21, 2003, 11:03:12 PM
Fan-flipping-tastic!!!!!!


Alvis ^_^  
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Post by: Captain Canada on December 22, 2003, 05:36:10 AM
Awesome job, Glenn ! I fell in love with that a/c as well....but like you, don't believe it would fly. For one thing, it's got the thickest 'fuselage' I've ever seen !

Cheers !
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Post by: TsrJoe on December 22, 2003, 02:39:21 PM
Waw...that sure is one beautiful model...really impressive workmanship...nice one Glenn

:cheers:
joe  :ph34r:  
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Post by: lancer on December 23, 2003, 01:58:41 PM
Awsome piece of modelling there Glenn. Very impressive. Talking of the flying wing, there was an article in a recent copy of Fine Scale Modelling - Yes I admit to buying that one - where  the toy version was re worked and updated to make it into a pretty decent model(about 48thish scale) of the plane. If anu one want I'll dig toe article out and scan it in and post it.
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Post by: Radish on December 23, 2003, 02:41:12 PM
In serious AWE!!!!
:zzz:  
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Post by: John Howling Mouse on December 24, 2003, 04:21:24 AM
Amazingk!!
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Post by: nev on December 24, 2003, 05:03:51 AM
Fantastic Glenn!  :wub:

You really, *really* need to submit this to Tom as an article.
Title: The Wing
Post by: Glenn on January 01, 2004, 06:21:28 PM
Nev,
  Actually, I built The Wing back around 1990, and had written up an article for a Sci-Fi mag called 'Sci-Fi Modeller, with photos and a full plan. I don't have the article at the moment, I'll see if I can get in touch with the bloke who does, and see if he can 'dig them up'.
Sorry for my ignorance, but Tom?
                                             Lyn
Title: The Wing
Post by: John Howling Mouse on January 01, 2004, 07:50:41 PM
QuoteNev,
  Actually, I built The Wing back around 1990, and had written up an article for a Sci-Fi mag called 'Sci-Fi Modeller, with photos and a full plan. I don't have the article at the moment, I'll see if I can get in touch with the bloke who does, and see if he can 'dig them up'.
Sorry for my ignorance, but Tom?
                                             Lyn
"Tom" as in "Supertom" the webmaster extraordinaire who makes all this possible.
We're all hoping you will provide some form of an article to Tom, who will post it on the home-page linked to this discussion board.

^_^  
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Post by: Tophe on January 03, 2004, 02:35:04 AM
Found a derivative without pusher-propellers, in an amusement park USA... Is it What-if enough ? :)  
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Post by: nev on January 03, 2004, 05:37:28 AM
Whats the text above the piccie say Ollie/Tophe?
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Post by: Captain Canada on January 03, 2004, 06:19:53 AM
What if enough for me.......and really cool to boot ! Looks like it would fly better than the original !

And the caption sez something like :

" some of the world's best stuntmen perform a scene from Indiana Jones, under the big top in the distance, under fire from the Nazis, this aircraft is in danger of blowing up"

Close, but waaay off !

Ollie !

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Post by: Tophe on January 03, 2004, 08:24:14 AM
Good Toad !
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Post by: Ollie on January 03, 2004, 11:16:13 AM
Excellent Toad!  With a modicum of efforts, you could become good in French again!

:wub:  
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Post by: nev on January 03, 2004, 01:26:14 PM
Meh, no need  ;)  
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Post by: lancer on January 04, 2004, 02:35:13 AM
Oh yeah, I likersion. Beefier engines, and 6 bladed props..coool!!!.  What role would it take?? I'd guess that a ground attack/strike/recce. I don't think that the wing layout would allow for a fighter.
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Post by: Tophe on January 04, 2004, 06:19:02 AM
Are the 6-bladed propellers contra-rotationg 3-bladed ones ? :huh:  
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Post by: elmayerle on January 04, 2004, 05:05:06 PM
QuoteAre the 6-bladed propellers contra-rotationg 3-bladed ones ? :huh:
The picture doesn't really give enough of a viewing angle to tell, I'd say the odds were even either way.
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Post by: Tophe on January 04, 2004, 08:22:16 PM
Some version of the same did exist with simple 3-bladed propellers, and I guess they had just added blades to make weirder, without creating the complicated double-3 that usual public would not understand. No ?
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Post by: elmayerle on January 04, 2004, 10:13:11 PM
I still can't tell about the six-bladed installation, but I swear, those booms look like they came off, or were modelled after, a Bronco.

Speaking of Bronco's, has anyone ever tried to model the proposed utility version of the Bronco, the one with the much wider fuselage?  I suspect that fuselage used Aero Commander structure (most likely from their largest, turboprop-powered aircraft) since NAR owned Rockwell Commander at the time.  I really want to do one in 1/48 scale to take advantage of the decals that were in the old Hawk "plated" OV-10A.
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Post by: Ollie on January 05, 2004, 06:17:32 AM
Guys, the first picture looks like a drawing to me, while the second one is a real photo.  I've seen it at MGM, and it sounded exactly like 3-bladed props to me!  I wonder what drives them.  Probably car engines!

:P