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Title: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Patrick H on June 24, 2008, 01:09:18 PM
Annyone remember this one?
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This is the one that set me of modeling for almost 2 years. Came acroos it a month ago and decided to give it a try again. And, although not my best build, I'm glad its finished now.

so, here we go. First the story, then the pictures.

After taking the F 104 on strength in 196, NATO became aware that this aircraft wasn't realy what they expected. Although a fine aircraft, it lacked a lot in flight time and it proved an unforgiving aircraft for its pilots. Soon, engineers at SABCA (Société Anonyme Belge de Constructions Aéronautiques), started an attempt to improve this. They came up with a delta wing, double tailed concept, based on the F 104 body. This proved a major improvement as larger tanks could be fitted in the wings and the bigger wings, together with the double tail made the aircraft much easier to handle and much more maneuverable. Another complaint by F 104 pilots was the lack of visibility. Therefore, a new, one piece canopy was designed to replace the old one.

The Belgian government saw the potential of this new fighter and gave the go ahead to build 2 prototypes. these where rolled out in 1963. By that time, The Netherlands and Germany had also showed interest in the project. The flight testing of the prototypes went flawless and soon production could start. A total of 250 aircraft where build of witch 75 served with the BAF; 55 with the Dutch Air Force and 120 went to Germany.

The SF 114 would replace the F 104 in Belgian service and would stay until replaced in 1975 when the last one was replaced

In 1970, 349 sqn had the honor to deliver the display aircraft for the airshow season and the FA 25 received a special painting for the occasion. The tail was painted black and received the Sqn's crest while on the belly a large "Goeden dag" was painted, the medieval weapon that is part of the Sqn's logo.

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About the build, Starfighter fuselage, wings used as tail. Heller Mirage V wings and droptanks. Canopy is "saved" from an broken up F 16. That and lots of putty made up my first, and for now kast, kitbash.

Hope you like it.

:cheers:
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: pyro-manic on June 24, 2008, 01:22:50 PM
A huge improvement on the F-104! Looks really good in that scheme, as well. The belly graphic is killer! :ph34r: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: GTX on June 24, 2008, 01:24:10 PM
Nice!!!

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Eddie M. on June 24, 2008, 04:11:32 PM
That is one killer profile. Beautiful lines and great presentation.  :thumbsup: :mellow:
   Eddie
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: sotoolslinger on June 24, 2008, 05:43:28 PM
Beautiful aircraft, excellent build and awesome graphics. Love the backstory.  :wub: :wub: :bow: :bow:
Don't quit. You have imagination and skill. Heck I got a Starfighter laying around I may just steal your idea.
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: kitnut617 on June 24, 2008, 07:34:19 PM
That's brilliant  :o :o   :bow:
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: John Howling Mouse on June 24, 2008, 08:15:16 PM
What everybody up there said, Patrick.  This is something to really be proud of.   :wub: :thumbsup:  And I wish I had thought of it!   :cheers:
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Hobbes on June 25, 2008, 12:22:56 AM
Goedendag indeed  ;D
That's one impressive build. I really like the graphics, and I suspect some engineer at Lockheed is now slapping his forehead and going "Why didn't we think of that?"
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: B777LR on June 25, 2008, 03:43:39 AM
Hahahaha, i love how the wings have been turned into the tail! ;D 5 star for that! :cheers:
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Weaver on June 25, 2008, 04:34:32 AM
Right up my street is that - well done!  Mid-mounted deltas on a circular fuselage and intakes are so..... pure ..... somehow.....:wub: :wub: :wub: If you can turn out stuff like that, then I sincerely hope it isn't your last kitbash....

Lockheed's takes on improving the Starfighter were the various CL1200 Lancer proposals, with a bigger (but still thin and straight) wing mounted high on the fuselage, and low tailplanes. It always looked to me as though it could use Crusader-style variable incidence, although it didn't. From a modelling POV, I wonder if you could make one by putting 1/48th F-104 wings on a 1/72nd fuselage. It lost out to the cheaper to buy/run F-5E in the Export Fighter competition, and then lost out to the YF-16 & YF-17 in the USAF Lightweight Fighter competition, on account of them being from another universe called "the future".....
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Ed S on June 25, 2008, 08:16:56 AM
Considering that the BAF flew both the F-104 and the Mirage V, this looks like what happened if a couple of these got together after a night of heavy drinking.  I like the result.

Ed
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: BlackOps on June 25, 2008, 08:17:42 AM
I'm glad you finished it because it's a real beauty  :wub:  
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 25, 2008, 08:20:51 AM
Five stars really
:wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Spey_Phantom on June 25, 2008, 09:00:20 AM
what a jet, where has it been al my life  :wub:
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Patrick H on June 25, 2008, 12:48:02 PM
Thanks a lot for all your nice comments guys. These do incourage me to try another kitbash someday.

I've always been a delta wing fan so who knows, there might be another one someday. I do have the Mirage fueselage left.  :wacko:

:cheers:
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Captain Canada on June 25, 2008, 07:10:41 PM
Oh yeah, that's the stuff.......those roundels on those colours ? Pure heaven ! Great job, Patrick. Such a sexy looking beast. The big crest on the tail really sets her off as well.

:wub:
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 25, 2008, 11:36:01 PM
Thats a great looking "bird"  ...not so much a WIF as a could / should have been. :bow: :bow: :thumbsup:

Not sure if its the camera flash or a little bit of decal solution could benifit the roundles.
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on June 26, 2008, 03:49:10 AM
Quote from: Eddie M. on June 24, 2008, 04:11:32 PM
That is one killer profile. Beautiful lines and great presentation.  :thumbsup: :mellow:
   Eddie

Yep, that just about covers it !

Ian
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Patrick H on June 26, 2008, 12:48:06 PM
Thanks Captain, Dork, Ian.

Yes there is a little silvering around some of the decals. Although it is less apparent on the real thing. Didn't use a flash on the photos so next time I think I'll beter use some setting solution here.
Very strange though. No silverng when applied. Then I give it another coat of futur, still nothing. Then a coat of flatt varnish et voila, a bit of silvering appears. Has happened before.

:cheers:




Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Brian da Basher on June 26, 2008, 02:25:04 PM
That's really killer, Patrick and I think the squadron badges on the tail and mace insignias are the icing on the cake!

You can really turn out a stunner!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Mossie on June 26, 2008, 02:33:18 PM
Nice take on the Starfighter.  I never liked the stubby little wings on the real macine, improves it no end! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Arc3371 on June 26, 2008, 02:38:22 PM
Very good idea and excellent build! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Sisko on June 27, 2008, 06:29:30 PM

Cool build!!!!! :wub:
Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 28, 2008, 01:15:22 AM

No silverng when applied. Then I give it another coat of futur, still nothing. Then a coat of flatt varnish et voila, a bit of silvering appears. Has happened before.

:cheers:

Yep its happened to me as well (a few times :banghead:) and its an absobloominloutly a pig to fix. Its to do with the pigment in the varnish. If you remember ( I never do....duh) you can "float the decal in a small pool of Klear when you apply them and dry off with a hair dryer (not dirrect and close)
There again you may be like me and find at the end of a build life is just to short to be  arsing about. LOL.
Its still a nice build and a good concept. :thumbsup:






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Title: Re: BAF SF 114 (finaly done)
Post by: Patrick H on June 28, 2008, 12:39:34 PM
Thanks guys,
always a pleassure to post here.

Dork, I'll try the futur/kllir puddel trick a next time but indeed, at the end of my build I usually can't be bothered with the silvering annymore. After all, it hardly shows on the real build, if it shows at all.

:cheers: