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Title: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 10, 2008, 06:07:15 AM
This may be lightly modified in a certain way.
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on June 14, 2008, 10:24:28 AM
I was SO close to building this one.... looking forward to seeing this one progress.

Ian
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 16, 2008, 06:02:53 AM
^^^^^ But please, do not stop. You would build it in 1/48 and I am absolutely sure your paint job would be superbe. :thumbsup: :cheers:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on June 17, 2008, 09:43:59 AM
H*ll no !

1:72 Waaayyyy to small for me. Few years ago I built the 1:48 Occidental Gina just after it came out...... It is approximately 65% filler/30% bad language !

I'll leave leave this one to you  :thumbsup: Go for it.

Ian
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 17, 2008, 11:58:11 AM
^^^^ and I will not use the Revell kit, but the Airfix  :wacko: ;D I like to punish myself :party: :blink:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on August 08, 2008, 06:10:43 AM
Update

Do you know? as I forgot to scratch build side consoles before closing fuselage :banghead: I had to add a pilot :thumbsup:

Security note: 2nd pic is blurred to avoid pilot identification ;D
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on August 08, 2008, 06:15:39 AM
Well I guess that US Army would load the simple and small Gina with tons of avionics, eventualy :thumbsup: I will consider A-4M as a modification model.
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: sotoolslinger on August 08, 2008, 06:48:02 AM
Looking very nifty Carlos ,are you eliminating the fuselage guns?
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: John Howling Mouse on August 09, 2008, 03:02:33 PM
ahhhh, the avionics/ECM hub is a stroke of genius, Carlos.  Good call on that!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on August 12, 2008, 07:46:25 AM
Quote from: sotoolslinger on August 08, 2008, 06:48:02 AM
are you eliminating the fuselage guns?

It will have a pair of 20mm guns, like German version.
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: BlackOps on August 12, 2008, 12:26:27 PM
Lookin' good Carlos!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Mossie on August 12, 2008, 12:40:18 PM
Almost looks like an A-7 with that hump, looking good Carlos!
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Weaver on August 13, 2008, 09:23:23 AM
Interesting project Ysi - right up my street!

Quote from: ysi_maniac on August 12, 2008, 07:46:25 AM

It will have a pair of 20mm guns, like German version.

Wen't they 30mm DEFAs?
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: nev on August 16, 2008, 02:44:59 PM
Good call on the avionics hump mate :)

Like the pilot as well.
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on September 17, 2008, 06:41:27 AM
Thanks to all of you!

BTW: I am thinking to equip this plane with two Mavericks. Would it need any bit to use them properly? I mean designators, rangefinders or the like.

A plane preferebly devoted to close support, flying low, would need a jammer?

Thanks,
Carlos.

PD: the nose will be configured as the nose of a Skyhawk A-4M
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Weaver on September 17, 2008, 09:30:47 AM
Quote from: ysi_maniac on September 17, 2008, 06:41:27 AM
Thanks to all of you!

BTW: I am thinking to equip this plane with two Mavericks. Would it need any bit to use them properly? I mean designators, rangefinders or the like.


No I don't think so: A-10s are pretty "avionics-lite" and they use Maverick. The only essentials are a TV screen in the cockpit to show the pilot what the TV/FLIR in the missile is seeing, and the appropriate control panel to allow him to steer the cross-hairs around and lock it on. The laser version needs a designator of course, but that can be provided by a FAC, so the CAS plane still doesn't need one itself (anyway, IIRC, the Laser-Maverick is only used by the USMC, not the US Army).

One useful bit of kit, which could be put in a G-91's nose at the expense of the recce cameras, would be a Laser Rangefinder and Marked Target Seeker (LRMTS) like on the Jaguar. This allows the HUD and weapon control system to use a FAC's target designation for any kind of attack: bombs, rockets, guns etc.... Alternatively, you could always have a Pave Penny pod scabbed under the nose, A-7-style.
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on September 17, 2008, 10:28:22 AM
^^^^^^^^ Is A-4M equipped with this?
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Mossie on September 17, 2008, 11:37:12 AM
Yeah, the A-4M has a 'laser spot tracker' in the nose.
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Weaver on September 17, 2008, 03:06:41 PM
Isn't the A-4M kit basically the ARBS (Angle Rate Bombing System) that's also used in the Harrier II?
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Mossie on September 18, 2008, 02:00:54 AM
I think your right, it's largely the same kit.  Earlier A-4M's seem to have had a lens in the nose similar to Harrier GR.5's, later ones seem to have had various fairings & 'tusks' similar to the GR.7.  I'm no expert on A-4's, but that's what it seems like to me.
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Scooterman on September 18, 2008, 06:09:09 AM
you guys are right.  The ARBS and weapons computer was developed for the A-4M and the Marines were impressed enough with it to have it installed in the AV-8Bs.
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on September 25, 2008, 11:20:11 AM
Ok, this will not be ready on time :banghead: :banghead: procrastination attacks again.

But you will see the result asap

bttb, this is current status :thumbsup: :cheers:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on September 25, 2008, 11:20:51 AM
...
btw: today I am adding a transparent nose tip  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Weaver on September 25, 2008, 05:12:19 PM
That's looking very promising Ysi!  :thumbsup:

That hexagonal-section sprue is a gift for electronics pods, isn't it?  ;D
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on September 30, 2008, 09:41:07 AM
Yeah! Airfix and KP sprues. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on September 30, 2008, 09:43:28 AM
Hi MODS,

I will not finish this project today :banghead: :banghead: . So, can you move this thread to Current and Finished Projects ?
Anyway I will try to finish asap, cos I really like this model :thumbsup:

Thanks
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: sotoolslinger on September 30, 2008, 06:56:14 PM
I like it too and my MiGina the second will also not be finished on time so we can have our own little unofficial Didn't make it in on time GB ;D
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Weaver on October 01, 2008, 02:17:26 AM
Yeah, please finish it Ysi: it's an interesting idea.

The "Didn't Make the GB" GB sounds interesting, but how would you organise it? (a deadline would be irrelevent....) :huh: :wacko:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: nev on October 01, 2008, 03:53:57 AM
Too bad you won't finish it on time Carlos, cos it looks killer.
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: van883 on October 01, 2008, 06:19:06 AM
I am looking forward to the result!

Van
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Brian da Basher on October 01, 2008, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: sotoolslinger on September 30, 2008, 06:56:14 PM
I like it too and my MiGina the second will also not be finished on time so we can have our own little unofficial Didn't make it in on time GB ;D

There was the "Phoenix GB" a while back which was for unfinished GB projects, moderated by the one and only Mr Howling Mouse. If memory serves, it was originally proposed with an eight year time frame.
:cheers:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on October 02, 2008, 12:10:25 AM
Quote from: Brian da Basher on October 01, 2008, 04:56:03 PMThere was the "Phoenix GB" a while back which was for unfinished GB projects, moderated by the one and only Mr Howling Mouse. If memory serves, it was originally proposed with an eight year time frame.

Which should coincide with the completion of his 'Worlds Ugliest Helicopter' project.  Something that has been in the works for quite some time now... :)
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: noxioux on October 02, 2008, 05:25:48 PM
Cool as hell.   :wub:  I can't wait to see the finished product.
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Thorvic on September 09, 2009, 09:27:54 AM
Just to bring it back current again
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Eddie M. on September 09, 2009, 03:29:37 PM
Outstanding work!! Looking forward to seeing the rollout. :ph34r:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on September 10, 2009, 05:26:22 AM
Just to tell you that I am retaking this build. :thumbsup:
Stay tuned! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: G.Marcat on September 10, 2009, 12:30:20 PM
WOW!  :thumbsup:, a What-if-izzed G-91.

Nice idea: I have never considered the italian Sabre for a What If.

Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on November 03, 2009, 10:50:27 AM
Believe me, it is progressing ...

BTW, I am seriously considering to install Mavericks in wing tip rails ... what do you think? could they be too heavy?

Sidewinder just below 100 kg, Maverick just above 200 kg (more than double)
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: G.Marcat on November 03, 2009, 10:55:22 AM
Never seen before a Maverick on the wing tip rails, but if the result look right, why not?
And it's a what if then there is ever a "gray zone" where to operate.
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on December 29, 2009, 01:23:30 PM
Hope it is a good way to finsh the year! :thumbsup: :party: :blink:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: philp on December 29, 2009, 01:30:53 PM
Oh, that came out nice.
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: G.Marcat on December 29, 2009, 01:50:21 PM
Good work.
The pieces copied from the Skyhawk look adequate on a G-91.

Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: John Howling Mouse on December 29, 2009, 02:09:25 PM
Believable Whif topped off with a wild paint scheme.  Well done, Carlos!   :thumbsup:

Jealous over here.

:bow:   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Weaver on December 29, 2009, 02:42:57 PM
Sweet - that looks really credible!*  :thumbsup:





* i.e. it's very credible that the US Army would take something fundamentally simple and then load it up with every bell and whistle going.... ;D ;)
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on December 29, 2009, 08:29:26 PM
Quote from: John Howling Mouse on December 29, 2009, 02:09:25 PM
Jealous over here.
I am always jealous over your models :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: ysi_maniac on December 29, 2009, 08:30:51 PM
Hi People, thanks for your kind words! :cheers: :cheers: :party:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: nev on December 30, 2009, 01:15:16 AM
I'm loving the use of 80s US Army vehicle camo :thumbsup:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: NARSES2 on December 30, 2009, 02:04:18 AM
I like that  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Mossie on December 30, 2009, 10:48:30 AM
Good to see it finally finished Carlos! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Brian da Basher on December 30, 2009, 12:33:20 PM
That's an outstanding way to end the year, Carlos! Your G-91 is a winner all the way and the paint work is a marvel to behold!
:bow: :bow:
Brian da Basher
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on December 30, 2009, 01:04:30 PM
What's not to like ? - The offspring of a G91 and a late model Skyhawk, and it's painted in MERDC pattern camo !!

Brilliant  :thumbsup:

Ian
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: BlackOps on December 30, 2009, 06:48:10 PM
What a great way to finish up a project! Awesome job Carlos.  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: batmancustoms on December 30, 2009, 09:28:36 PM
Bad Azz!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: US Army G-91, a tribute to BlackOps
Post by: upnorth on December 31, 2009, 11:40:53 AM
Very nice outcome on that! :thumbsup: