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GROUP BUILDS => 2007 Group Builds => The Knackers Yard => JSDF GB => Topic started by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 11, 2007, 03:54:00 AM

Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 11, 2007, 03:54:00 AM
The colours evolved through my as yet unpublished Alternative History of a resurgent militarist Japan locking horns with a still communist Soviet Union in the mid-eighties. Long story shortened, the disputed Kuril Islands become a battle ground and my Skyhawk (and previously seen Sea Harrier) are involved.

Because the transit to the islands is over the dark bluey grey/green northern Pacific then the colours used should reflect this. I decided to utilise all RAF tones - not necessarily current colours :-

The lightest tone over 80% of the underside and the centreline drop-tank is Medium Sea Grey (MSG). The next lightest, counter-shading the underside, beneath the intakes and on the rear fuselage is Light Slate Grey (LSG). The next lightest covering 60% of the upper surfaces is Ocean Grey (OG) and the final darkest tone is RAF Blue Grey (B/G).

The pattern came to me quite easily and was just about right after three attempts - I have based it on the pattern used by the first A-4/TA-4's seen in low vis greys in the mid to late eighties.

First actual in-progress painting pics will follow soon !

Ian

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Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 12, 2007, 02:38:19 AM
Medium Sea Grey sprayed, ready for masking.

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Ian
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Captain Canada on October 12, 2007, 05:08:12 AM
Some guys just can't get it right, can they ? I think it would look better with a ratio closer to 79 % and 62 % for the uppers and lowers, respectively.


:P

Can you point me in the direction of your Harrier again, pls ?

:party:
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 17, 2007, 06:31:28 AM
OK here's the MSG all masked.

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Next, the Light Slate Grey (LSG) was sprayed on under the leading edge of the wings to approximately .25 chord and up the intake flanks, front fuselage and the rear fuselage.

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the last photo as well as showing the gap beneath the fin (!), shows the difference in tonal value between the MSG and LSG.

Ian
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 17, 2007, 06:36:24 AM
As this is written, the next coat of paint (RAF Blue/Grey) is drying in the Autumn sunshine, but here's the model as it looked this morning, with the LSG areas masked off.

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More tomorrow - I think ! :unsure:
Ian
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 17, 2007, 07:02:17 AM
In the meantime, here's the loadout, as you can see the British tandem panniers required a wee bit of 'adaptation' ! :o

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Ian
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Brian da Basher on October 17, 2007, 08:38:26 AM
Looking good, Ian! That's one awesome load-out you've got in the works!
:thumbsup:
Brian da Basher
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: nev on October 18, 2007, 02:29:53 AM
She's haulin' some serious iron  :tank:

I think the camo scheme is gunna be rather like a Rolf Harris painting - and I can't quite guess what it is yet ;)
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 18, 2007, 04:54:25 AM
:bow:  :bow:  
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Captain Canada on October 18, 2007, 04:59:08 AM
Wow.....that is starting to look really good ! Love the weapons load. Did you spray them as well ? They look really sharp.

:cheers:  
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 18, 2007, 08:38:52 AM
Paint finished !

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This is the RAF Blue/Grey sprayed and masked.... forgot to take a pic before the masking !  :dum:



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And that's it.... paint done. The tonal value between the RAF Blue /Grey and the Ocean Grey looks more pronounced than it is in actuality. I guess it's the flash/lighting set-up.

On to the decals....

Ian

Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Brian da Basher on October 18, 2007, 02:16:08 PM
Woah!! That's an absolutely killer paint scheme Ian! Hat's off to you!
:salute:
Brian da Basher
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 22, 2007, 06:13:27 AM
Decals on, next a light oil wash into the panel lines.

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As you can see I changed my mind about two things. The slats will be deployed and the loadout just looked WRONG. So I ditched the panniers idea and loaded just one GBU under each wing.... looks much better.

Ian
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Captain Canada on October 22, 2007, 06:20:43 AM
Wow ! That's really looking the part now, my friend !

:wub:

Can't wait to see her on her legs !

:party:  
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: nev on October 22, 2007, 09:34:13 AM
Those Hinomarus sure bring it to life  B)  
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Brian da Basher on October 22, 2007, 10:23:01 AM
Those Hinomorus provide a wonderful contrast with the camo scheme! You've got an artist's eye, Ian!
:thumbsup:
Brian da Basher
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on October 22, 2007, 03:52:23 PM
Sorry my mate ....dont work for me.
Not your best idea........bit like the herring flavoured ice cream :(  :(  :(  :(
We will discuss this at length over a libation. :cheers:

Good modelling though.
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: lancer on October 23, 2007, 01:42:58 AM
Looking very good Ian.  
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on October 23, 2007, 06:20:03 AM
QuoteSorry my mate ....dont work for me.
Not your best idea........bit like the herring flavoured ice cream :(  :(  :(  :(
If I recall correctly the Herring flavoured ice-cream was your idea - caused by your spending too much time with Scandanavians - it was me who invested those old folks pension funds'.... poor old souls, they'll never forgive us  :unsure:

Ian
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on October 23, 2007, 01:46:31 PM
No  it was YOUR idea...........I told you we should have gone with the sardine and banana instant whip.

:drink:  see ya Sat if we can get the weather down for Heli ops. :drink:  
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Mossie on October 29, 2007, 02:24:07 PM
Just seen it on the Completed Builds Thread & I do like this one!  I've got to admit, I was leaning towards what Dork was saying but I often feel that you have to see a build finished completley before you can tell just how it'll look.  Sometimes little things like removing the masking or adding a few more weapons can change the whole look of a build & I think this has happened here.

Great work Ian! :cheers:  
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: Maverick on November 08, 2007, 02:01:51 AM
Super build Ian.  I've always liked the Mike version of the Scooter, looked a bit more warlike than the earlier marks.  I tend to agree on the LGBs, I think pairs would have been too much, but the effect now is just brilliant.

Regards,

Mav
Title: A-4 M J
Post by: John Howling Mouse on December 11, 2007, 07:15:32 PM
Well, I don't care if this sounds sycophantic or not: Sir, it is an honor to be permitted to see your builds come together.

You make it look so easy, which I believe is the mark of a true artist in any field.

JHM (Humbled in Alberta)   :bow: