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Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 14, 2007, 06:31:48 AM
THe "new" project. Between the Skyraider and the Skyshark came the original "fin"

Douglas aviations mating of the Wyverns Python contra engine and a Skyraider...the fin is of course another  piece of Douglas history.

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Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 14, 2007, 08:04:16 AM
I like it bttb :o  :wub:
From which model did you get the contraprop spinner?
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 14, 2007, 09:02:13 AM
The  Trump Wyvern :cheers:  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: cthulhu77 on June 14, 2007, 09:42:48 AM
Neat, but don't you need a bigger stabilizer/rudder?   :D  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 14, 2007, 10:44:11 AM
QuoteThe  Trump Wyvern :cheers:
The rest of Trumpeter model can make the proposed jet version of Wyvern. See Tony Butler's :cheers:
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 14, 2007, 11:15:26 AM
QuoteNeat, but don't you need a bigger stabilizer/rudder?   :D
Why??  ....you trying to sell something??? :P  :P  :P  :P
:cheers:  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: cthulhu77 on June 14, 2007, 11:32:23 AM
...only if I mod a 1/72nd B-52 !    Seriously, a great concept...like the sturdy fuselage with the large engine.
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Brian da Basher on June 14, 2007, 01:12:56 PM
Wow what a smashing idea there Dork! She'd look awesome in SEA camo!

Brian da Basher
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Sisko on June 14, 2007, 03:49:47 PM

I like where you are going with this!!
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: GTX on June 15, 2007, 12:41:10 AM
Looking good!

Regards,

Greg
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: BlackOps on June 15, 2007, 07:27:40 PM
I like what you've done here, has a very cool look to it.
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: John Howling Mouse on June 15, 2007, 07:44:53 PM
Baby's got "fin"   :thumbsup:  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 16, 2007, 05:02:52 AM
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I think with the complete prop assembly in place,it justifies the "fin".....................................others may know better.
:cheers:  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: cthulhu77 on June 16, 2007, 06:10:19 AM
Dig it  ! And what a perfect name!
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Eddie M. on June 16, 2007, 07:01:43 AM
That is just mind blowing! It looks fast sitting still. Are you going to model it with the wings folded?

And, yes, I'll take some of those fine cookies, since they are perfect for sharing. ;)  :lol:
 Eddie  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 16, 2007, 07:06:35 AM
QuoteAre you going to model it with the wings folded?

And, yes, I'll take some of those fine cookies, since they are perfect for sharing. ;)  :lol:
 Eddie
The jury is still out on the wing fold.......................however you are far to late for the cookies,  that tin is full up with spare bits and bobs. :cheers:  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Chap on June 16, 2007, 03:11:26 PM
Great work Dork! :thumbsup: A neat concept wonderfully executed, I can't wait to see it finished.

~Steve
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Rafael on June 16, 2007, 03:18:20 PM
Great White, Dork!!

The fin looked like a building, but, once the props are on, man, the looks change spectacularly!

Melikesit!! :wub:

Rafa
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: McGreig on June 16, 2007, 04:25:15 PM
Quote
The fin looked like a building, but, once the props are on, man, the looks change spectacularly!

What he said.  :thumbsup:  Great concept - looking forward to seeing it finished.
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 19, 2007, 03:49:05 AM
Update on the "GW"
Had to search out a beefed up undercart then applied the first coat of the colour.

click on the thumbnail for bigger pic.

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Im still thinking about the canopy type. Im leaning towards the heavy frame "ground attack?"one, which could later sport the SEA scheme although it does have the old Skyshark look to it..or the standard Skyraider canopy. Feel free to chip in with your thoughts.
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 19, 2007, 06:21:27 AM
I would use heavy frame.
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Brian da Basher on June 19, 2007, 11:55:50 AM
Wow that's some wonderful work there Dork! I gotta vote for the heavy-framed canopy too. It really helps obscure the origins of this beauty! Not only that, but it looks tough as nails.

Brian da Basher
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: McGreig on June 19, 2007, 01:58:54 PM
QuoteI gotta vote for the heavy-framed canopy too. It really helps obscure the origins of this beauty!
I agree. And it seems to suit the overall shape of the aircraft better than the Skyraider canopy.
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: NARSES2 on June 20, 2007, 03:19:52 AM
Now that would look interesting posed alongside my Australian Skyshark ?
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 20, 2007, 08:05:43 AM
....and why not. Only the impossible takes a little longer :cheers:
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Captain Canada on June 20, 2007, 11:29:16 AM
Wow Dork, that is a thing of beauty ! I'd go with the original frame canopy, the heavy one makes it look too clunky.

:cheers:  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 21, 2007, 05:50:06 AM
Progress update,
a gloss coat and a few markings are adding a bit of "life" .

Im still working on the two canopies..............bit like old King  Sol.

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Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: B777LR on June 21, 2007, 06:49:22 AM
Id definetly go for the last canopy :wub:  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: cthulhu77 on June 21, 2007, 06:50:08 AM
Coming along nicely...a defiinite jmn confuser !
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Chap on June 21, 2007, 08:05:04 AM
Dork, it's a close race between the two, but I'd have to go with the latter as well; as stated before it fits the aircraft better. Beautiful work so far :thumbsup: , I love the Korea era paint scheme, IMHO much better than the Vietnam era camouflage or overall grey. Have you thought about armament yet?

~Steve    
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 21, 2007, 11:38:08 AM
QuoteHave you thought about armament yet?

~Steve
Steve old mate.............................I havent thought about me dinner yet :(  :blink:  :wacko:  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: CanisD on June 21, 2007, 02:49:17 PM
I personally prefer the bubble. The heavier canopy just seems to "overpower" the design to me.
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Damian2 on June 21, 2007, 03:01:07 PM
QuoteI personally prefer the bubble. The heavier canopy just seems to "overpower" the design to me.
I agree wiht Canis, the bubble looks "faster" if you will...
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Mossie on June 21, 2007, 04:17:35 PM
I'm with the framed canopy, I think it adds character.  It looks slightly too large IMHO but it's nothing serious.  You could cut it shorter & fair it in with Milliput or similar if your happy to do a little chopping & sanding.
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on June 22, 2007, 04:10:38 AM
Wow, that's something of a rarity old friend.... a Dork project that did not require a raiding party to descend upon my decal stash. Poor thing is still trying to receover from your last 'visit'....

Great SharkVern, btw !

Ian
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 22, 2007, 07:15:29 AM
QuoteWow, that's something of a rarity old friend.... a Dork project that did not require a raiding party to descend upon my decal stash.
Ian
Who told you that?????............................................Ill be round 0800 .............................AS ARRANGED :cheers:

I really dont know where you people get these ideas from. :cheers:  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: philp on June 22, 2007, 04:13:21 PM
I also vote for the bubble.

We are voting, right?
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: John Howling Mouse on June 23, 2007, 03:04:05 AM
As soon as I saw the heavier framed canopy, the originality and uniqueness (is that a real word?) of the overall design struck me much more than the bubble one.  Makes it stand out that much more, IMHO.

It is a beautiful opportunity to watch this one come together!   :)  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 24, 2007, 02:28:09 AM
Quote

We are voting, right?
Only if you like the the bubble...........the heavy frame brigade are voting "left".

THe canopy choice was even discused on a few occasions at the SIG AGM on Saturday, it seems to have caused a minor stirring of the muddy waters  ( no not THAT Muddy Waters) at the bottom of the WIF pond,with very definite opinions from both camps..........................apart from Raddish whos' ......welll.......just camp. :P  B)


Check out our mate Archibalds thread ,he also has a Skyraider "family member" on the go,which is looking very interesting.............................................and I only steal ideas from the best :ar:

Narses2 has a rather cheeky littleAustralian Skyshark lurking in his collection,this is turning into an unintentional "Theme"
:cheers:
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 24, 2007, 06:20:17 AM
The original u/c assembly seemed very spindley,so I figured todays update would be to "beef" it up a bit. The intention is to put a twin tail wheel bogey at the rear.

This is the British produced Botham u/c units in place.(in the power off settings)






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As an aside,thanks to Narses2,for the new 5 blade, a new power egg for another skyraider or maybe my Wyvernesque project.

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Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 26, 2007, 09:44:45 AM
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Can this be entered in Goobers build?? TrumpeterWyvern prop,Airfix Skyraider( been in the loft over 10years as a French job),Hasegawa Nate cockpit,Monogram Panther struts,Italari B26 tail,HasegawaSkyhawks drop tank,Revell F111 nose wheels and wing tanks from aforementioned B26.
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: philp on June 26, 2007, 09:53:01 AM
Looks like the left won.

Completed kit looks great.
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on June 26, 2007, 12:02:58 PM
Philp,Click on the thumbnail,its a hung vote ,left AND right catered for. :cheers:  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Damian2 on June 26, 2007, 01:54:12 PM
Dork that sucker looks mean. How mean? Mean enough to make you soil yourself if that thing came overhead.
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: van883 on June 26, 2007, 01:55:16 PM
That looks so feasible to my untrained in engineering eye-its great!

Van
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Chap on June 26, 2007, 02:47:10 PM
QuoteDork that sucker looks mean. How mean? Mean enough to make you soil yourself if that thing came overhead.
Couldn't have said it better myself! Beautiful work Dork, from every angle she looks like a winner.

~Steve
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on June 27, 2007, 01:18:41 AM
One of your best, old friend..... by some considerable margin.

Ian
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Sisko on June 27, 2007, 01:28:05 AM

Nice one!

Not a great fan of the dark blue navy scheme but it looks nice on that puppy.
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: NARSES2 on June 27, 2007, 01:38:23 AM
Great stuff mate

Chris
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Mike Wren on June 27, 2007, 04:34:34 AM
that's stunning!  :wub:  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Dork the kit slayer on July 01, 2007, 07:37:05 AM
Just afoot note before I put this project to bed. Thanks for the interest gents,as for those poor sad souls that wanted the building details and pics...there in your mail box.
Every build we do I think there are lessons to be learned and this was no different. So when I do it in 1:48 hopefully I will remember to have better planning and a better painting schedule.
I was pleased with the weathered tanks,but I think they should have been sprayed rather than brush painted and rubbed down.

I did test a few weapon fits out. But I should have decided where to go before I started painting.....pylons etc really should be in place before paint as all the test fitting and adjustments take there toll. :banghead: I rather liked using this 1:48 scale rocket on its own mounts. A bit like the "mighty mouse" If I'd gone that route I would have mounted five and of course filled in the 1:72 hard point slots. In 1:48  I have no idea where I would get 1:32nd rockets. :(

If I had choosen a wings down,instead of the quick and easy (lazy) folded I'd go for a dihedral similar but not as great as a Corsair and Spitfire cannons would have been a must.

Click on the thumbnails to se what I mean.
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Ill leave it in a dark room for a while then strip it down,I can see it re surfacing in SEA or even gullgray/white with all those rocket pods and "crispy critter" tanks.( I should live that long)
Meanwhile there are a few more variations to get of of this box of tricks. :cheers:

and that trike Skyraider is :bow:  :bow: interesting.



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Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Brian da Basher on July 01, 2007, 10:33:05 AM
Yowsa Dork this one's a real winner! I'm glad you went with the framed canopy. It adds that extra bit of mystery and gives it a real tough look. Stunning work!

Brian da Basher
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Glenn Gilbertson on July 01, 2007, 03:53:58 PM
Very plausible. A mean looking beast and great modelling!
:salute:  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: Captain Canada on July 01, 2007, 03:56:48 PM
Wow, Dorko....that is bloody aweosme ! Sure looks the part. Love the camo and markings, really suit her !

:wub:  
Title: New Project Off The Drawing Board
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 02, 2007, 06:56:18 AM
Absolutely top notch :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub: