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General Modelling Forum => General Modeling topics => Topic started by: GTX on March 24, 2007, 11:39:54 AM

Title: Ea-18g
Post by: GTX on March 24, 2007, 11:39:54 AM
Hi folks,

Does anyone know if there is a kit or conversion available to create a 1/48 EA-18G (including with the wingtip pods)?

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sflorg.com%2Faviation%2Fimages%2Fimav080406_01_02.jpg&hash=c9bf2a9164f70fe5cb3b7ea385dc335d366d6b9d)

Regards,

Greg
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Hobbes on March 24, 2007, 11:48:08 AM
What's that pod (missile?) on the wingtip?  
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: PolluxDeltaSeven on March 24, 2007, 11:50:34 AM
For the pod, this is a jammer pod, as far as I know.

For the kit, there's a 1/48 kit by Italeri
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Shasper on March 24, 2007, 12:57:47 PM
Wingtip Pods are wide-area frequency detector thingies (cant seem to find any specifin info on them).

Italeri makes a 48th kit, and it would not be too difficult to bash one in 72nd.

EA-18 on GlobalSecurity.org (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-18g.htm)

EA-18 pics (http://ipmslondon.tripod.com/referencearticles/id28.html)


Shas B)

Title: Ea-18g
Post by: GTX on March 24, 2007, 01:01:50 PM
Quoteand it would not be too difficult to bash one in 72nd.

But why would I want one in 1/72?? :D

Regards,

Greg
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Shasper on March 24, 2007, 02:08:49 PM
Just a statement  :D

Honestly I want one in 72nd as thats my prefered scale for twin/jets.

Shas B)
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Maverick on March 24, 2007, 02:37:15 PM
'sides, 72nd is 'Divine Scale'


About the EA-, what except for the wing pods, are the differences too an -18F?  I can see the cannon's been deleted, no surprise, but beyond that???  Must be a lot of internal mods I guess.

Mav
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: GTX on March 24, 2007, 02:43:52 PM
John,

Have a look here (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-18g.htm) for details on the Growler.

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Regards,

Greg
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: GTX on March 24, 2007, 02:51:34 PM
QuoteWhat's that pod (missile?) on the wingtip?

I understand they are part of the ALQ-218(V)2 ELINT system.

Regards,

Greg
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Son of Damian on March 24, 2007, 03:39:25 PM
Is it just me or does the space between the Harm and the wing tip seem kinda empty? Why don't they stick another pylon under they and add some more offensive capability like JDAMS, SDBs, JSOWs, JASSMs, or some more AMRAAMs/Sidewinders or self defence.  
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Shasper on March 24, 2007, 04:03:19 PM
Because that over the wing hingline, for whatever reason pylons are nolonger placed on the folding portion of the wing.

Besides, the cheek stations still have raamers ;)

Shas B)
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: jcf on March 24, 2007, 05:43:57 PM
QuoteBecause that over the wing hingline, for whatever reason pylons are nolonger placed on the folding portion of the wing.

Besides, the cheek stations still have raamers ;)

Shas B)
Probably because the wing structure has been beefed up in the outboard section, and thus structure weight increased, to allow for carrying that big pod on the wingtip.

Cheers, Jon
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Shasper on March 24, 2007, 06:10:54 PM
It's not only on the G, both the E and the F dont have pylond over the hingline, same goes for most if not all modern USN aircraft.

Shas B)
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Burncycle on March 24, 2007, 09:40:38 PM
I just wish they made an EW version of the F-15E!
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Shasper on March 24, 2007, 09:49:19 PM
You may get your wish, *if* the AF cant get the B-52 SOJ off the ground.

Shas B)
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Maverick on March 24, 2007, 10:39:39 PM
Just thunking about B-52 as a jamming platform, why didn't they use the B-1 instead, surely it's a little more survivable even if it's a stand-off jobby.  The remaining -52Hs have gotta be getting long in the tooth by now?

More importantly, why not a -15E based EW/Weasel bird?  Hard-kill capability, scads of stores available.  Before the F-16 came online as a weasel, I had built an F-15G for defence suppression, using the -15E airframe of the original Hasegawa demonstrator.

Mav
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Matt Wiser on March 24, 2007, 11:06:48 PM
The Follow-on Wild Weasel Competition had an F-15E variant (likely designation F-15G), along with an F-16D variant with the "big spine" as seen on Israeli AF, Singapore AF, and Chilean AF birds, and the Tornado Wild Weasel. Had the Cold War gone on a few more years, there would've been a flyoff, a winner declared, and a production order placed.

The B-52's tentative phase-out is scheduled for 2040. As long as there's Buffs in AMARC for parts, the AF will keep on truckin' with the H-models. Used to be it was "Join the Air Force and fly the plane your dad flew." Now it's "Join the AF and fly the plane granddad flew."  
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Burncycle on March 24, 2007, 11:15:47 PM
QuoteJust thunking about B-52 as a jamming platform, why didn't they use the B-1 instead...
Why didn't they just use a commercial platform like JSTARS / AWACS / Rivet Joint, etc?

Save the few B-52's we have left to do B-52 stuff!

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The Follow-on Wild Weasel Competition had an F-15E variant (likely designation F-15G), along with an F-16D variant with the "big spine" as seen on Israeli AF, Singapore AF, and Chilean AF birds, and the Tornado Wild Weasel. Had the Cold War gone on a few more years, there would've been a flyoff, a winner declared, and a production order placed.

When they retired the F-4 wild weasel, they wanted an F-15E with AN/APR-47 so they could at the very least retain the capabilities the F-4 had. When the money wasn't there for that, they wanted an F-15E with PDF. When the money wasn't there for that, they wanted an F-15C with PDF. When the money wasn't there for that, and what little budget they had was nearly halved, they had to go with the F-16 and HTS :(

Ah well. It may be a third choice aircraft with a third choice system, but at least we have a lot of them, eh?

QuoteThe B-52's tentative phase-out is scheduled for 2040. As long as there's Buffs in AMARC for parts, the AF will keep on truckin' with the H-models. Used to be it was "Join the Air Force and fly the plane your dad flew." Now it's "Join the AF and fly the plane granddad flew."

Ship of Theseus :)
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Matt Wiser on March 25, 2007, 01:36:44 AM
IF it was possible, one could have B-1s retrofitted with external pylons (they originally had them for ALCMs, but were removed when the Bones were retasked from the nuclear mission) and be so wired for HARM. The Bones still would have the weapons bays free for JDAM, JSOW, and dumb bombs or LGBs.  
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: anthonyp on March 25, 2007, 07:01:16 AM
QuoteI just wish they made an EW version of the F-15E!
You mean like this:  B)

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhyperion.mystarship.com%2Fmodels%2FMichiganeagles%2Fwildeagle%2F172nd-f15g-10a.jpg&hash=89d4953facadb1e645a997face1fac19e015c9a4)

For Hi-res pics, click here (http://hyperion.mystarship.com/models/Michiganeagles/wildeagle/).

And for the original thread with the Wild Eagle, click here (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=11623) (it's partway down the page).
Title: Ea-18g
Post by: Burncycle on March 25, 2007, 12:49:06 PM
Quote
QuoteI just wish they made an EW version of the F-15E!
You mean like this:  B)

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhyperion.mystarship.com%2Fmodels%2FMichiganeagles%2Fwildeagle%2F172nd-f15g-10a.jpg&hash=89d4953facadb1e645a997face1fac19e015c9a4)

For Hi-res pics, click here (http://hyperion.mystarship.com/models/Michiganeagles/wildeagle/).

And for the original thread with the Wild Eagle, click here (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=11623) (it's partway down the page).
Yes!  :wub: