hi all
here is my revell(hasegawa) F4U-7 reworked to a RCN craft.
the fuselage was depened for a bubble canopy (Thunderbolt) and a spinner(mossie) and another prop (spad) was added.
because the prop has bigger diameter I lenghtened the gear struts.
I know some aircrafts has a hydraulic system to lenghtening the struts before landing because the big prop...the N1K George as I know...
the rockets are made by myself from a 8mm rod (15inch in oryginal).
the engine cowling is lenghtened to install the 3350 engine.
I planned it as RAN craft in oryginal blue sheme but now decided to make it as RCN craft from the korean war in this beautyfull two tone gray sheme.
at this time I not decided if I will install new vertical stab...
like the big one on a Wyvern...would looks nice I think
hope you like it
Peter
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Looking good so far Peter. It can keep company with my RN Bearcat I have been working on.
Beautiful work Peter, the rockets you made are wonderful. Were they created using a lathe-type setup? I'm astounded yet again by your craftsmanship! B)
~Steve
no...cordless screwdriver :cheers: it works very well
Quoteno...cordless screwdriver :cheers: it works very well
Ingeniosity, like art, has no limits. My compliments!!! :wub: :wub: :wub:
Peter, this belongs in an exhibition. I'd say, go with the higher vertical fin.
You changed the looks of this airplane to a very impressive, very believable warbird. I like your mods, and the arrangement of the engine/prop as the bubble canopy only add elegance to a very sharp model.
Congrats!!
Rafa
(Astounded. Again.)
Beautiful!!!!! :wub: I love that second pic, the plane looks so mean from the angle. Could you explain how you lengthened the cowling and built up the back end for a bubble top?
Woweeeee!!!
Lovin it already :wub:
It's got that no nonsense kick donkey and take names later kind of look to it! Please tell me this one will make it to the paint shop!
That's a stunning build you have there. But can I just point out one small thing if you'd permit me?
The prop clearance seems very small, on take off, it the the tail lifts first, the prop would hit the ground. I think it needs a little more added to the undercarriage legs or a small bit removed from the prop.
Other than that, it's excellent! :)
Fantastic skill in this model.
Best regards
Van
QuoteThat's a stunning build you have there. But can I just point out one small thing if you'd permit me?
The prop clearance seems very small, on take off, it the the tail lifts first, the prop would hit the ground. I think it needs a little more added to the undercarriage legs or a small bit removed from the prop.
Other than that, it's excellent! :)
It is a wicked combination of several aircraft components and of course, Peter is still the master at creating something really wonderful out of them. I would concur with Sea Vixen's observations on the large propeller arc, this could be a problem on a real aircraft but here in WHIF world, not so much of a problem.
The propeller is huge, rightfully so if the engine has been upgraded, it would need a bigger wheel to spin just to take advantage of the additional horsepower available. At idle, the clearance is not a point, but if the aircraft is taking off from a catapult, it would nto be a problem as the launch bridle would keep the aircraft in the tail down position but on land, that would be a different story and it would matter. The first thing that came to mine when I saw it was will the propeller arc clear the guns? If not, then either the propeller needs a bit of cutting down on diameter or the guns need to be moved outboard. With a propeller that large, the vertical and horizontal control surfaces should be enlarged to maintain directional control as well as the increase in torque.
Your rockets are wicked, looking like a better design of the 11.75''/330mm Tiny Tim Forward Firing Aircraft Rockets which weighed in at slightly over 1000 pounds with a 500 pound armor piercing bomb modified to be the warhead. Wicked looking and plenty of them, always good!
so far so good...thats a really nice concept........Ive got to agree with the prop clearance issue though ( no offense).......looking fwd to the finished pics. :cheers:
Echoeing what Dork and Jeffrey have said - perhaps just cropping the tip of the props would be an answer - but that's up-to-you. Fantastic concept, very reminiscent of the F2G, and there's nothing wrong with that !
Ian
COOL. :cheers:
QuoteEchoeing what Dork and Jeffrey have said - perhaps just cropping the tip of the props would be an answer - but that's up-to-you. Fantastic concept, very reminiscent of the F2G, and there's nothing wrong with that !
Ian
My 2 cents on the prop. One has to take into account the fact that as the a/c's speed builds up on take-off, the gear strut oleos extend as weight is taken off, thereby giving more clearance. Also, a common practice would be like modified WWII a/c used in air racing, simply maintaining a slightly tail-low take off attitude. For land use, the gear oleo struts could just be inflated to increase their length. The fix for the F4U's 'built-in bounce' when making carrier landings was to lower the pressure in the struts. Most older F4U kits show them inaccurately with extended oleo struts, when in practice they are supposed to be 'flat'. Also, regarding the F2G & its larger prop, the airframe was not really lengthened by accomodating the 4 row R-4360, the fuselage was actually shortened & the overall length stayed about the same. I've been working on an 'AU-2' myself, tho only using a Skyraider cowl & prop.
I say leave the propeller the same size and move the cannons outboard of the propeller arc. That way you can keep that big propeller and still have a plausible location for the cannons without the danger of shooting up the propeller blades.
QuoteI say leave the propeller the same size and move the cannons outboard of the propeller arc. That way you can keep that big propeller and still have a plausible location for the cannons without the danger of shooting up the propeller blades.
Are the cannons within the prop arc? I can't see them being that close.
As far as ground clearance on the prop...love the prop, so maybe a slight gear extension?
As for the rest...love the spinner, love the canopy, love the long nose. :wub:
Not 100% sure about the weapons. I think HVARs might look better.
Cant wait to see RCN markings on her.
oh yeah, almost forgot...with that massive prop, perhaps a slight rudder extension would look the part too.
I love the big rockets - can you show us your cordless screwdriver technique sometime? Also, I'm very interested in how you chopped the spine off and rebuilt it.
PS Don't show this to Brian or he'll demand that you put spats on it. :ph34r:
What a beautiful build ! Reading over the posts, though, it seems like a bunch of us have gotten the "critique" bug pretty bad.
Looking forward to seeing this one finished, and like SuperTom, I would like to see how you built those rockets...they are super.
Greg
Gaa...gaa...gagallaggghhhh...drip, splat, drip! :wub:
(Translation: Canadian donut-drooling fascination)
Styrene magic: pure and simple. So good it is nearly painful with anticipation to watch.
May I add my request to the others: please show us how you make such ordnance (you just know I'd start with something about 4 inches in diameter and whittle it down to final shape).
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PS Don't show this to Brian or he'll demand that you put spats on it. :ph34r:
It's a proven fact that spats increase the coolness factor of any aircraft by 1000%!
The coolness factor of
this aircraft is completely off the scale! Those rockets are the work of a true craftsman. Another gem, wolfik!
Just remember, everything goes better with spats! :wub:
Brian da Basher
hi all! thanks for the comments! :cheers:
for first...the prop has a ground clearance of 13mm...its 1mm less like the normal corsair prop...I added some mm to the struts...as mentioned...its hydraulically telescopic... ;)
the diameter of the bigger prop dont overlap the firing line of the cannons.
the second is...I mentioned the rockets are about 8mm...its a mistake..sorry...its ca.4.8mm in diameter what are ca.9inch in oryginal...and because I have photos which shows an Korean War AU-1 with three 250lbs bombs under each wing so I think...its possible to carry a 300lbs rocket under a strenghtened wing and with an engine having 1500 horsepower more...
by the way...a AGM-12 Bulpup is something smaller and it weights 250lbs.
best regards! :cheers:
Peter
about the rudder extension...yes...its in work B)
Beautiful as always Peter, thanks so much for taking the time to share your work!
The rockets have a very Canadian look to them - they remind me of what 1 Rkt Bty RCA used in WW2; the 'Land Mattress':
thanks! now I know how to paint these :cheers:
by the way....wears canadian pilots in 1950 helmets allready?
I have a nice british pilot figure for early jet aircrafts and was thinking to give this mate an aicraft :tornado:
best regards!
Quotethanks! now I know how to paint these :cheers:
by the way....wears canadian pilots in 1950 helmets allready?
I have a nice british pilot figure for early jet aircrafts and was thinking to give this mate an aicraft :tornado:
best regards!
Here's a pic that was captioned as being of Robert H Gray in a Korean War era Corsair (Royal Navy) and he seems to be wearing a bone-dome in this shot. My gut feeling is that this photo could actually be a more recent image of a more contemporary Corsair made to look like Gray's (?).
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv727%2Fjohnhowlingmouse%2FRobertHGrayCorsairKorea.jpg&hash=3ad5719c1368c426848c43898ecd31f7bd572e61)
Hammy Gray was killed in 1944, so I'm thinking that caption is quite wrong.
I've seen a pic somewhere of an F-51 with an RCAF pilot wearing a similar style helmet though, so Peter, you should be OK with that. Besides...it's a whif! ^_^
I think some people on this site have forgotten what that means. :(
If you are going to go with crash protection of that era, I would strongly recommend that you consider the flight gear of the early jet aircraft then in use such as the F9F Panther & Cougar, F1H Phantom, F2H Banshee, FJ1 Fury/F-86 Sabre, F-80 Shooting Star, & F-84 Thunderjet. Aircrew of these aircraft all wore a similar style helmet and you can exploit the Revell of Germany (Monogram) F-86 kit for a standing pilot figure in the appropriate attire. The Revell/Monogram F-80 Shooting Star kit provides a seated pilot figure with the early helmet. I can not remember if the F-84 came with the pilot figure or not, but it would not hurt to check those kits as well.
QuoteKorean war? Hardly. British Pacific Fleet circa 1945 and all (or at least most) of our Corsairs went straight over the side as soon as the war ended. It's a modern warbird mocked up in those colours.
Sure I've got those markings somewhere.
To be more specific, that's actually Canadian Warplane Heritage's old FG-1D Corsair. I believe it was sold to a private collector some years ago. I could be more specific, but as of this typing CWH's site appears to be down.
Hammy Gray, VC, was killed in August '45.
One of the last strikes of the war.
Many British FAA aircraft were dumped, as Wooksta says, over the side.
The USN did the same....much cheaper and easier than returning them to the US.
The RNZAF Corsairs were lined up in Japan when they were superfluous for Occupation duties and torched.
Some RN Lend Lease aircraft were retained, for example, I built a RN Corsair IV (FG-1D) in a trainining unit markings....the unit wasn't formed until post-war!
Also, the RAF flew Lend Lease stuff certainly until the end of '46, nearly 18 months after the end of the war in Europe...eg Mustangs III and IVs of 112 Sqn. They were scrapped as the RAF withdrew from Italy......not for tactical reasons, just that the Government had no money left to keep them there.