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Title: MiG-20
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 31, 2006, 06:29:57 AM
I do like MiG fighters
Title: MiG-20
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 31, 2006, 06:30:44 AM
More pics
Title: MiG-20
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 31, 2006, 06:32:21 AM
More pics
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Post by: NARSES2 on July 31, 2006, 06:33:43 AM
QuoteI do like MiG fighters
So do I after seeing yours - wonderfull  :wub:  
Title: MiG-20
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 31, 2006, 06:34:10 AM
Here you can see warload, RATO and special devices in undercarriage, like in Su-7 BKL
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Post by: Gary on July 31, 2006, 08:13:52 AM
OK, I am so confused now....

I'm a looking, but I have no idea how it was accomplished.

Very fricken cool!
Title: MiG-20
Post by: Captain Canada on July 31, 2006, 08:25:47 AM
Yowzers.....that's awesome ! Very well done, you could have easily fooled me ! Very powerful looking.....now let's see some more !

:wub:  
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Post by: Ollie on July 31, 2006, 08:47:18 AM
MiG-21 fuselage with wings from a MiG-19?

:wacko:  
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Post by: Radish on July 31, 2006, 08:54:23 AM
Brilliant....brilliant....brilliant.
Lost for words :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  
Title: MiG-20
Post by: Shasper on July 31, 2006, 09:03:20 AM
Or maybe an Q-5?

Kinda reminds me of the MiG-23 Flipper that LS put out years ago

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oldtimersammlung.de%2FFlugzeuge%2FFlugzeuge_3%2Fa_%25FC%25FC%25FC%25FC%25FC%25FC11.jpg&hash=71056b546cf737d9a87ee2c82ff0d1c49a323973)


Shas B)
Title: MiG-20
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 31, 2006, 09:05:29 AM
QuoteMiG-21 fuselage with wings from a MiG-19?

:wacko:
Not so easy. More complex mix of MiG-19 and 21, hence 20.
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Post by: Spey_Phantom on July 31, 2006, 09:51:59 AM
Genious, pure genious.

i love it, you truely are a whiff artist  :wub:  
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Post by: nev on July 31, 2006, 10:27:39 AM
love it, and you've even got the whole Soviet grainy photo thing going  :D  
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Post by: Ollie on July 31, 2006, 11:44:01 AM
Oh yes, -19 aft fuselage, wings and stabs, -21 tail, forward fuselage.

Write a good story and whisk it to Hyperscale, then sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

:wub:  :)  
Title: MiG-20
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 31, 2006, 11:52:53 AM
QuoteOh yes, -19 aft fuselage, wings and stabs, -21 tail, forward fuselage.
:wub:  :)
Right. The most difficult was to mate -19 aft fuselage with -21 forward fuselage, spine and tail fin. Fuselages are quite different in shape and diameter. But putty worked ^_^
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Post by: Aircav on July 31, 2006, 12:21:11 PM
Bet if you did a 1/32 version it would really have them going at a model show.
She looks great  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  
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Post by: lancer on July 31, 2006, 02:43:39 PM
I love it, she looks amazing. That is a hell of a build you've done there. Oh, like you I like Russian aircraft as well.
Title: MiG-20
Post by: gooberliberation on July 31, 2006, 04:24:24 PM
:wub:  Kinda reminds me of the "new and upcoming" soviet fighters that can be found in copies of Janes from back in the early to mid 1950s. With all these migs and sukhois coming out, they had trouble figuring out which is which, and often featured illustrations with mixed up details.

I love it!

I take it by the even numbered designation and weapons load that the mig-20 is primarily a bomber? Have you figured out a NATO reporting name yet?
Title: MiG-20
Post by: BlackOps on July 31, 2006, 08:17:44 PM
Completely FREAKIN' AWESOME!  :wub:   Very cool idea :)

Beautifully executed I might add.


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Post by: Archibald on July 31, 2006, 11:15:45 PM
Quote:wub:  Kinda reminds me of the "new and upcoming" soviet fighters that can be found in copies of Janes from back in the early to mid 1950s. With all these migs and sukhois coming out, they had trouble figuring out which is which, and often featured illustrations with mixed up details.

I love it!

I take it by the even numbered designation and weapons load that the mig-20 is primarily a bomber? Have you figured out a NATO reporting name yet?
Great work! Congratulaions for this hybrid...
The transition from the MiG-19 to the MiG-21 (and the MiG-21 derivatives) give me headache. There was really a huge bunch of prototypes at the time (I-75 and the like).  
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Post by: gooberliberation on July 31, 2006, 11:34:25 PM
Well, the swept-wing preMiG-21 prototype E-2A was designated the "Faceplate." Perhaps it could be reused for this one.
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Post by: Ian the Kiwi Herder on July 31, 2006, 11:40:08 PM
Completely believeable. Just like the P-36/DB601 you posted last week. Great work, looking forward to seeing many more !

Ian
Title: MiG-20
Post by: elmayerle on August 01, 2006, 12:27:13 AM
This reminds me of some of the early guesstimates (circa-1972) of what the Shenyang A-5 looked like.  An Italian magazine did a drawing of a Mig-19/-21 hybrid that looked quite similar.
Title: MiG-20
Post by: cthulhu77 on August 01, 2006, 05:38:58 AM
QuoteHere you can see warload, RATO and special devices in undercarriage, like in Su-7 BKL
Fantastic. Simply fantastic.  Love those Soviet craft designs, yours fits right in.

                greg
Title: MiG-20
Post by: ysi_maniac on August 01, 2006, 06:01:02 AM
QuoteI take it by the even numbered designation and weapons load that the mig-20 is primarily a bomber? Have you figured out a NATO reporting name yet?
You are right: I envisaged it as a tactical biomber to fit the even number. But I did not think about the NATO reporting name.

Good point!
I INVITE ALL OF YOU TO FIND ONE.

In my opinion, "Faceplate" is not a good choice as it was a much lighter and sleeker plane: a pure fighter. By the way, I am working in a model of this plane, from the Airfix MiG-21 and the wings of a Heller MiG-19.
Title: MiG-20
Post by: wolfik on August 01, 2006, 07:35:55 AM
full cool!  :cheers:
any pictures made during the building?
peter
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Post by: ysi_maniac on August 01, 2006, 10:17:31 AM
Quoteany pictures made during the building?
:(  :(
I did it some years ago, before I got a digital camera and before this forum existed.

Carlos.
Title: MiG-20
Post by: Archibald on August 01, 2006, 10:39:41 AM
Quote
QuoteI take it by the even numbered designation and weapons load that the mig-20 is primarily a bomber? Have you figured out a NATO reporting name yet?
You are right: I envisaged it as a tactical biomber to fit the even number. But I did not think about the NATO reporting name.

Good point!
I INVITE ALL OF YOU TO FIND ONE.

In my opinion, "Faceplate" is not a good choice as it was a much lighter and sleeker plane: a pure fighter. By the way, I am working in a model of this plane, from the Airfix MiG-21 and the wings of a Heller MiG-19.
Ok let's go...
Finger
Fantail
Firelock
Feaster
Feather
Fiddle
Flake

B)  
Title: MiG-20
Post by: SPINNERS on August 01, 2006, 11:35:11 AM
Cooler than cool.
Title: MiG-20
Post by: waynos on August 01, 2006, 04:04:33 PM
Given its origins how about 'Fishfarm'  :D

Or, if you find that too trite, maybe 'Fingerbob'? or Fallback?

Beeeeeautiful model, it looks close to one of the prototypes in 'Russian Secret Projects - Fighters' but not too close to spoil its whiftasticness.
Title: MiG-20
Post by: John Howling Mouse on August 01, 2006, 07:59:35 PM
Quotelove it, and you've even got the whole Soviet grainy photo thing going  :D
My thoughts exactly!  Reminds me of all those early pics you see in 1960's era books on their airforce.

Beautiful model!   :wub:  :wub:  :wub:

"Fallback" is a fantastic name.  Just the kind of thing NATO would come up with.
If you don't use it, I will!


Title: MiG-20
Post by: Maverick on August 03, 2006, 02:41:53 AM
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Quote
QuoteI take it by the even numbered designation and weapons load that the mig-20 is primarily a bomber? Have you figured out a NATO reporting name yet?
You are right: I envisaged it as a tactical biomber to fit the even number. But I did not think about the NATO reporting name.

Good point!
I INVITE ALL OF YOU TO FIND ONE.

In my opinion, "Faceplate" is not a good choice as it was a much lighter and sleeker plane: a pure fighter. By the way, I am working in a model of this plane, from the Airfix MiG-21 and the wings of a Heller MiG-19.
Ok let's go...
Finger
Fantail
Firelock
Feaster
Feather
Fiddle
Flake

B)
Sorry, JMN moment here,

'Feather' was for the Yak-17 & I can't quite remember but i think 'Fantail' was used too???  Also 'Fiddle' would be quite similar too 'Fiddler' as in Tu-128....   Perhaps, 'Foghorn' since it's kinda big & chunky???

Regards,

Maverick
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Post by: gooberliberation on August 03, 2006, 03:09:07 AM
Fantail is also taken by the La-15

Also, flake doesnt work, because jet "names" have two syllables, whereas props have only one.

Flakey? *scratches scalp*
Title: MiG-20
Post by: anthonyp on August 03, 2006, 05:41:08 AM
COMRADES!!!!

Is GLORIOUS day to respond to such a wonderful thread by the People!

This wonderful piece of socialist engineering and ingenuity struck fear into the decadent running dog West, at least the intelligence community that was aware of it.

As for a name, I have heard that the afore-mentioned "Fishfarm" and "Fallback" were applied to it, though I think, in order to run down the Motherland's confidence through words, some called it "Fishbait."  Truly, these Western officers have no concept on what would insult us, as "Fishbait" is what is used to strengthen and nourish the Red fish, so that it may be eaten by the People to give them strength to fight the West!

What?  WHAT?!  Did someone shave my head again while I was asleep, in attempt to get me to emulate Lenin?  I tell you, comrades, sometimes, explaining the lazy West to you is like trying to pull Stalin's teeth.

ZA RODINA!!

Comrade Captain Anatoly Iosef Pakizorich, Naval Aviation Bureau
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Post by: ysi_maniac on August 03, 2006, 08:43:27 AM
QuoteCOMRADES!!!!

Is GLORIOUS day to respond to such a wonderful thread by the People!

This wonderful piece of socialist engineering and ingenuity struck fear into the decadent running dog West, at least the intelligence community that was aware of it.

As for a name, I have heard that the afore-mentioned "Fishfarm" and "Fallback" were applied to it, though I think, in order to run down the Motherland's confidence through words, some called it "Fishbait."  Truly, these Western officers have no concept on what would insult us, as "Fishbait" is what is used to strengthen and nourish the Red fish, so that it may be eaten by the People to give them strength to fight the West!

What?  WHAT?!  Did someone shave my head again while I was asleep, in attempt to get me to emulate Lenin?  I tell you, comrades, sometimes, explaining the lazy West to you is like trying to pull Stalin's teeth.

ZA RODINA!!

Comrade Captain Anatoly Iosef Pakizorich, Naval Aviation Bureau
You got the idea. ;)  
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Post by: B777LR on August 03, 2006, 02:00:59 PM
QuoteBut I did not think about the NATO reporting name.

Good point!
I INVITE ALL OF YOU TO FIND ONE.
How about "Fake"?

"Flaw"

"Faulty"

:P  :P  :P  
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Post by: MerlinJones on August 03, 2006, 02:23:26 PM
Fish Hook...more than apt, 'cos the pilot of the flaming F-4, dangling from his 'chute, will be bound to exclaim;

"What the Fish Hook was that?"

(Or I think that's what he said, given the inadequacies of radio pick-up in a combat zone!)

Very nice build, Sir.

Regards,
Bruce
Title: MiG-20
Post by: ysi_maniac on August 04, 2006, 09:35:06 AM
QuoteHow about "Fake"?
"Flaw"
"Faulty"
:P  :P  :P
Or, perhaps...
Failure,
Forum,
Fsixteen,
or just
F__K

:P  :P
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Post by: ysi_maniac on August 04, 2006, 09:36:44 AM
I like FISHFARM, sounds very plausible. :rolleyes:  
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Post by: Eddie M. on August 04, 2006, 07:04:03 PM
I am very impressed with your creation. That is a beautiful piece of work.
Okay, no one mentioned;
Fishfart ;)  :lol: Just Kidding!
how 'bout Flashfire, or Flashpoint.
It was worth a try..... :)
   Eddie
Title: MiG-20
Post by: ysi_maniac on August 08, 2006, 09:37:45 AM
Is there any webpage with all NATO report names already assigned and the rules to assign them? :unsure:  :unsure:  
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Post by: datguy on August 08, 2006, 11:43:41 AM
QuoteIs there any webpage with all NATO report names already assigned and the rules to assign them? :unsure:  :unsure:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_reporting_name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_reporting_name)

DG
Title: MiG-20
Post by: ysi_maniac on August 08, 2006, 12:06:33 PM
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QuoteIs there any webpage with all NATO report names already assigned and the rules to assign them? :unsure:  :unsure:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_reporting_name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_reporting_name)

DG
Thanks ^_^

Carlos.