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Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Martin H on June 22, 2006, 02:41:02 PM
Well we scored big time getting the TSR-2 from Airfix.

Well its happening again, but on a smaller scale.

Freightdog home page (http://www.freightdogproductions.com/)

A resin Saro SR-177. From Freightdog, Colin, the owner of Freightdog is a sig member, and has decided to take the plunge into kits as well as his more normal lines of decals/transfers.
He has hired Anigrand to do the tooling and casting, so it should be a cracking kit. And he has hired Fantasy print shop of Truo down in Cornwal to do the five option decal sheet. Niow thats were we came in, Myself, Thor and a few others have had some imput for posible options, but in the end thats down to colins choice.

He hopes to have the first batch ready for telford, so start saveing boys.

Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Bluesteel on June 22, 2006, 03:09:02 PM
Excellent! I'll definitely add an SR-177 to my buy-as-soon-as-available list!

If Anigrand are tooling and casting it'll be very good indeed. I'm just building their Republic Thunderscreech, which is excellent. I've also asked Anigrand if there may be any chance of a Short Sperrin in the future... :D


A Cornish decal producer eh? I wonder if they could help me with my little project:

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpic18.picturetrail.com%2FVOL889%2F4975802%2F10221481%2F159095811.jpg&hash=933f7824cb616dfff57fb022ee707f9d8d4a53cf)

The Cornish Stannary Air Force Draken.

I need a Cornish Chough Decal for the tail! :)

Bluesteel  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: MartG on June 23, 2006, 01:34:35 AM
QuoteA resin Saro SR-177.

Ooh, yes please ! :D

Bluesteel - is that CAF for Cornish AF, or should it be KAF for Kernow AF ?
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Bluesteel on June 23, 2006, 04:42:23 AM
Quote
QuoteA resin Saro SR-177.

Ooh, yes please ! :D

Bluesteel - is that CAF for Cornish AF, or should it be KAF for Kernow AF ?
It has to be CAF for the moment. If I used the word 'Kernow' I'd have to find out what Cornish for Air and Force is. I've had a look but it's not easy to find. Unless any Cornish speaking What-Ifers can oblige...?

It could even be STAF = Squire Trelawny's Air Force (although I think he was a Bishop and not a Squire..)

Bluesteel
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Martin H on June 25, 2006, 02:10:31 PM
Hang on whats this about a cornish airforce?  just cause the decals for the upcomeing kit are being made in Truro doesnt mean u can hijack my bleedin thread now op it and make your own lol

Anyway, heres a link for an article on how the project may have proceded.
The SR 177 story (http://worldatwar.net/chandelle/v1/v1n2/saro177.html)
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Bluesteel on June 25, 2006, 02:18:07 PM
QuoteHang on whats this about a cornish airforce?  just cause the decals for the upcomeing kit are being made in Truro doesnt mean u can hijack my bleedin thread now op it and make your own lol
It's alright, only a minor detour off thread as, if I can get hold of a couple, I'm bound to do an SR-177 in a Cornish scheme.

There, back on SR-177 track again :)

Bluesteel
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: MartG on June 25, 2006, 03:14:19 PM
....suitably re-engined with a Trevithick Turbofan ^_^  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on June 25, 2006, 04:04:49 PM
Hello Martin (and others). Thanks for the SIG input on decals,  still trying to make sense of it all (just don't have enough room, and you didn't mention the Cornish Airforce option!!).
Latest from Hong Kong today if that masters are progressing well.
As for the Short Sperrin, that would be one BIG lump of resin!!
Thanks
Colin, Freightdog Models
     
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: The Rat on June 25, 2006, 04:09:53 PM
QuoteIt has to be CAF for the moment. If I used the word 'Kernow' I'd have to find out what Cornish for Air and Force is. I've had a look but it's not easy to find. Unless any Cornish speaking What-Ifers can oblige...?
Why not ask the good folks over at Agan Tavas, Our Language, The Society for the Promotion of the Cornish language (http://www.agantavas.org.uk/)?  ;)
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: XV107 on June 25, 2006, 04:42:18 PM
Sorry to hijack a little more, but Cornish Air Force...

For reasons lost in the midsts of time and the depths of Greene King IPA, someone of my acquaintance enquired of another acquaintance who had a very, very basic understanding of Cornish what, indeed, the Cornish for 'Cornish Air Force' might be. Why did he want to know? I have absolutely no idea (I was at the bar at the time the question was asked). But anwyay.

He came up with:

Kerno Ayrennow Gonysegeth, which translated (if it is proper Cornish in the first place) as 'Cornwall Aeroplanes Service'. Then, after more thought and more beer, he thought that the word order was wrong (based on the order in Cornish for 'English-Cornish Dictionary'), and promptly came up with:

Lu Ayr Kernowek , or perhaps Ayr Lu Kernowek (which [very, very, very] roughly translates as 'Cornish Air Fleet']. Or maybe, he ventured, Ayr Gonysegeth Kernowek.

At this point, we bought him another pint  to stop him banging on in a language that only he had a basic knowledge of, unaware that working out the correct translation of Cornish Air Force would in fact be of use in the future. I carefully parted him from the notebook he'd been scribbling this down on (mine). Since it also had PRO references on it, I still have said note book. I have no idea if the spelling above is right, though...


Sorry about that, Martin - I know someone who'll probably want to try to buy half of the production run, so will refer him to the link...





Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: MartG on June 26, 2006, 03:24:46 AM
Colin - any idea on pricing yet ?
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Hobbes on June 26, 2006, 04:12:35 AM
A new tool SR.177? Woo hoo! I've got the old vacform lying around, but a resin one (especially when Anigrand is involved) would be a treat.

As for decal options: the UK (RAF, RN) and Germany are the most obvious, but IMO any country that ended up with the F-104 would be fair game.

Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on June 26, 2006, 09:40:46 AM
MartG,
Hopefully around £35.00 in line with simular sized kit from Anigrand. Depending on interest I may release a version without decals, which might drop the price down to £30 but can't promise...  
Colin  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Gekko_1 on June 26, 2006, 10:03:37 AM
It'll be nice to see that kit eventuate.

In the mean time here's what one may have looked like?

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv11%2FGekko_1%2FRoyalNavy.jpg&hash=24dda674eb7bf7416977c540a18b7af1ca5c140c)

Not sure if I got the side profile right? :unsure:

I'll do a few more if anybody's interested?

:cheers:

Richard
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: nev on June 26, 2006, 10:09:56 AM
QuoteI'll do a few more if anybody's interested?
Um, yes?


And what would have been its in-service name?  Always thought it looked like a Puffin.  Not very macho I know, but...
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Hobbes on June 26, 2006, 10:42:29 AM
Gekko: of course we're interested. Well, I am, at least. And that's one gorgeous drawing you have there. Much better than the SR177 artwork I've seen so far (grainy scans from old books, and amateurish line drawings in very low resolution). As for accuracy: I'm no expert, but it looks right to me.  

Suggestions for more profiles: RAF (one of the squadrons stationed in Germany), German (Air force and Marineflieger naval air service), Dutch (again, air force and naval air service), Italian, Danish, and USAFE.

Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Martin H on June 26, 2006, 11:05:36 AM
That profile is close enouth for government work gekko lol.

JASDF would be a very good choice as well, they were quite interested at one point.

35 quid sounds fair with a 5 option decal sheet.
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: lancer on June 26, 2006, 02:27:38 PM
More profiles please.

QuoteJASDF would be a very good choice as well, they were quite interested at one point

I had the exact same idea.
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: RLBH on June 26, 2006, 02:59:41 PM
QuoteAnd what would have been its in-service name?  Always thought it looked like a Puffin.  Not very macho I know, but...
I rather like "Sparrowhawk". You've got the alliteration thing the RAF or whomever was keen on until the mid-1960s (ish), as well as the bird stuff they liked next. It also suggests speed, to me, and both bird and aircraft are comparatively small.

Seems made for the job, to me...
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Gekko_1 on June 27, 2006, 01:05:19 AM
Here we go, Japanese. Licence built by Mitsubishi. :unsure:

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv11%2FGekko_1%2FJASDF.jpg&hash=77773518c2fc3a39ad552dacfffc4b128c6fc2f3)

:cheers:

Richard.
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: GTX on June 27, 2006, 01:09:57 AM
Beautiful work as usual Richard.  If you're taking suggestions/requests, how about a Swiss bird or maybe a RAAF one?

Regards,

Greg
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Hobbes on June 27, 2006, 01:41:09 AM
Cool! One minor point: IIRC the land-based version didn't have the tailhook or the fairing around the rocket exhaust (just above the tailhook).  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: MartG on June 27, 2006, 01:56:20 AM
Quote
I'll do a few more if anybody's interested?

Richard
Does water flow downhill ? Of course we want more, and more, and more.... :)

:cheers:  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: elmayerle on June 27, 2006, 01:59:31 AM
Quote
Quote
I'll do a few more if anybody's interested?

Richard
Does water flow downhill ? Of course we want more, and more, and more.... :)

:cheers:
SECONDED!!!
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: NARSES2 on June 27, 2006, 03:30:29 AM
That Japanese one looks gorgeous Richard  :wub:

And as for £35 for the kit, that's just about what I figured it to be. Very fair me thinks - looking forward to this one
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: MartG on June 27, 2006, 04:05:43 AM
QuoteAnd as for £35 for the kit, that's just about what I figured it to be. Very fair me thinks - looking forward to this one
Agreed.

Aaargh - just realised - I'll need to rewrite my alternative history backstory again to fit it in somewhere :lol:  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on June 27, 2006, 02:38:08 PM
JASDF is on the 1st draft of the decal artwork, but I think it will be dropped due lack of space, but I do like the name 'Spearfish'....
Colin
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Gekko_1 on June 28, 2006, 06:44:59 AM
Japanese low-vis.

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv11%2FGekko_1%2FJap2.jpg&hash=c904eba8cf45c2ca9081f8cd2af666f10ebf3fcf)

Next will be a German Marine jet.

Also on the theoretical list is:

Luftwaffe
RAAF
RAF
USAFE

Hobbs, I've found another profile on the net and a nice painting of an RAF jet, so I may well revise the profile to include the land based version too.

Will the kit have an option for both the land and sea based jets?

:cheers:

Richard.
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Hobbes on June 28, 2006, 09:35:41 AM
:wub:  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on June 30, 2006, 03:42:12 PM
Hello Richard,

In answer to your question, the first release will be the land based version, complete with Red Top missiles, drop tanks and decals for RAF Bloodhound squadrons (thanks Martin and Geoff). The RN version is going to follow.

I been getting some really good feedback from the modelling press, SAMI are giving me space in their news section, and the August Scale Aircraft Modelling will feature a profile of the P177R in 111sqn markings drawn up especially in the RAF update section thanks to Dale Clark (looks smart, a lot like your profiles, I have a copy but I'm not can't publish it due copyright). I've also had input from Mike McEvoy at SAM who is in full agreement on the Bloodhound squadron Idea.    
I'm hoping to get the first shots of the (incomplete) masters, which I will post over the weekend or as soon as I get them if there good enough.

Thanks, Colin
 
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Martin H on July 01, 2006, 06:28:19 AM
Good to know Mike is happy with the squadrons Colin. Or as thor refers to him "The Mentor".

Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Geoff_B on July 04, 2006, 08:32:54 AM
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv666%2FThorvic%2FP177Rmasters1.jpg&hash=35bbc214531c21fbc96c8a517ad4f4519bd32191)

Initial Masters Pic from Colin...

P177R master's so far. Still needs work on the nose and tail (drawing missinterpreted, so looks like a cross between the RN/RAF versions, easily fixed). Also Ejection seat is wrong type, MB Mk4 will be supplied in production kit.
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: MartG on July 04, 2006, 08:57:10 AM
Oooh  :wub:  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: NARSES2 on July 08, 2006, 02:43:06 AM
Nor me
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Hobbes on July 08, 2006, 10:53:39 AM
Wow, those masters do look good!
One area where this kit is different (and better) from the Maintrack vacform (which I'm currently building) is the main gear: on the Maintrack kit, only one of the two gear doors per side is moulded separately.
About the main gear legs: I'd expect some sort of diagonal brace in addition to the upright. Can't find this in any photo or drawing though.
And I can't see on the photo if the refueling probe is present?  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: lancer on July 08, 2006, 02:12:25 PM
Oh those test shots do look the business.  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on July 08, 2006, 02:51:25 PM
QuoteWow, those masters do look good!
One area where this kit is different (and better) from the Maintrack vacform (which I'm currently building) is the main gear: on the Maintrack kit, only one of the two gear doors per side is moulded separately.
About the main gear legs: I'd expect some sort of diagonal brace in addition to the upright. Can't find this in any photo or drawing though.
And I can't see on the photo if the refueling probe is present?
Glad you like them, I thought the same when I saw them!
On the three sets of drawings I have, plus a SARO artists 'in service' impression, the gear legs don't have any bracing.
The refueling probe is present but has been represented as an engraved panel, this will be changed to a raised panel as it appears on my drawings.  
I don't have the Maintrack kit, but I would be interested to know how they have represented the tail pipe for the RAF version.  Most images/drawings represent the Navy version, can you take a photo of the tail pipe and email to me? I think my master is wrong at the moment.
If anyone else has a unmade copy of the Maintrack kit, I love to borrow one and would be happy to pay postage etc.
Thanks, Colin

Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Hobbes on July 09, 2006, 05:50:35 AM
Sure, I'll arrange some photos, and a scan of the instruction sheet, this week. The instruction sheet contains a 5-view drawing by Barrie Hygate. The same drawing can probably be found in his book 'British experimental jet aircraft'.
The model represents the RAF version, with the instruction sheet showing how to modify it for the RN version.  

I just started mine, btw. I separated all the pieces, and sanded down some of them. I haven't done any glueing yet, and haven't modified any of the parts. If you can't find an unbuilt kit, you can borrow mine.  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Gekko_1 on July 09, 2006, 06:06:53 AM
QuoteSure, I'll arrange some photos, and a scan of the instruction sheet, this week. The instruction sheet contains a 5-view drawing by Barrie Hygate. The same drawing can probably be found in his book 'British experimental jet aircraft'.
The model represents the RAF version, with the instruction sheet showing how to modify it for the RN version. 

I just started mine, btw. I separated all the pieces, and sanded down some of them. I haven't done any glueing yet, and haven't modified any of the parts. If you can't find an unbuilt kit, you can borrow mine.
Hobbes, can I please have a scan of the 5-view drawing too?

:cheers:

Richard.
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on July 09, 2006, 04:31:20 PM
QuoteSure, I'll arrange some photos, and a scan of the instruction sheet, this week. The instruction sheet contains a 5-view drawing by Barrie Hygate. The same drawing can probably be found in his book 'British experimental jet aircraft'.
The model represents the RAF version, with the instruction sheet showing how to modify it for the RN version. 
Thanks for the offer, I do have a copy of Barry Hygates book, but in the 5 view drawing 4 of them refer to the naval version! Look forward to pictures of the cut out parts to see how Maintrack did it, Geoff has kindly offer to loan my his unstarted kit but it will be good to see the fuselage parts cut out also.
Colin
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: seavixen on July 12, 2006, 06:00:14 AM
It's up on Hyperscale as well. http://kits.kitreview.com/sr177previewbg_1.htm (http://kits.kitreview.com/sr177previewbg_1.htm)
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: MartG on July 12, 2006, 10:47:19 AM
Quote
QuoteSure, I'll arrange some photos, and a scan of the instruction sheet, this week. The instruction sheet contains a 5-view drawing by Barrie Hygate. The same drawing can probably be found in his book 'British experimental jet aircraft'.
The model represents the RAF version, with the instruction sheet showing how to modify it for the RN version. 
Thanks for the offer, I do have a copy of Barry Hygates book, but in the 5 view drawing 4 of them refer to the naval version! Look forward to pictures of the cut out parts to see how Maintrack did it, Geoff has kindly offer to loan my his unstarted kit but it will be good to see the fuselage parts cut out also.
Colin
A few years ago I borrowed a book ( published by Putnam, history of Saunders Roe ) which included a chapter on the SR53 and 177 - and I still have scans of the relevant pages. If you want copies just PM me with your e-mail address.
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: NARSES2 on July 23, 2006, 01:29:17 AM
Well it gets two mentions in this months SAM

One in the News section and another in the UK Air Arm pages, plus colour side view as the header  :rolleyes:

Just shows that we are now treated as a "serious" side of the hobby in the UK at least
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Martin H on July 23, 2006, 05:20:30 AM
yeah u couldnt help but notice it...but couldnt they be a bit more original with the side view....another bloody Lihghtning squadron for pete sake!....treble one to be presice.
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Hobbes on July 23, 2006, 07:27:49 AM
(slaps forehead) Damn, completely forgot about this. Work has been hectic these past few weeks. I'll try and get something sorted this week.  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Hobbes on July 29, 2006, 08:05:49 AM
I've made some photos of the parts in the Maintrack kit, and scans of the instructions for that kit including the Barrie Hygate 5-view drawing. If anyone wants them, mail me.  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Gekko_1 on July 30, 2006, 05:42:13 PM
Quote
QuoteSure, I'll arrange some photos, and a scan of the instruction sheet, this week. The instruction sheet contains a 5-view drawing by Barrie Hygate. The same drawing can probably be found in his book 'British experimental jet aircraft'.
The model represents the RAF version, with the instruction sheet showing how to modify it for the RN version. 

I just started mine, btw. I separated all the pieces, and sanded down some of them. I haven't done any glueing yet, and haven't modified any of the parts. If you can't find an unbuilt kit, you can borrow mine.
Hobbes, can I please have a scan of the 5-view drawing too?

:cheers:

Richard.
Thanks Hobbes,

just downloaded them, MUCH appreciated!

Now all I have to do is modify my files and start doing some more profiles, but I've got to move house soon  :angry: so it may be a while.

:cheers:

Richard.
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on August 28, 2006, 03:45:01 PM
Hello,
Just a quick note to say my P177R project is still on track, Anigrand are still aking a couple of minor changes to the masters at my request.
I had hoped to have ready for late September, date will probably slip but I still  hope to have set of finished resin components on display at the IPMS Coventry show on the 24th.
Anymore progress will be passed on as and when.
Thanks, Colin
Freightdog Models  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Geoff_B on August 28, 2006, 03:55:22 PM
Look forward to seeing them Colin.

Also notice you announced the Naval version on your website over the weekend  :D .

G
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: NARSES2 on August 29, 2006, 04:50:21 AM
Look forward to seeing them at Coventry - think I'll be getting one of each  :wub:  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on August 29, 2006, 01:01:21 PM
Quote

Also notice you announced the Naval version on your website over the weekend 
Yes, I'll come clean, there are two kits!!  Decals are only thing really holding me up (why didn't I just use ALPS ones......)
Colin
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Gekko_1 on August 29, 2006, 04:53:58 PM
QuoteCoz ALPS ones are poo-poo (with an english accent)?  Horribly dot matrixy and never look right...
You've obviously never seen one of my (Gekko Graphics) Alps printed decal sheets! :P

No dot matrix and a great alternative to very expensive screen printed decals, especially for one-off and short run stuff. :D

Only draw back is one cannot do pale colours or greys :(

:cheers:

Richard.
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on September 07, 2006, 08:48:20 AM
Decal options for P177R are now confirmed! They are:

222 sqn (natural metal)
112 sqn (RAFG grey/green/silver with Kittyhawk style sharks teeth)
56 sqn (natural metal Firebirds display team)  
1st Prototype (XL905 white overall)
RAF target drone (like Sea Vixen in red/yellow)

I opted for 222/112 sqn Bloodhound units at suggestion of the What-If SIG/forum, 56 sqn for commercial reasons (colourful and well known), prototype for the what-if modellers who like subjects to be factually based, and the target drone well, because I like red and yellow airplanes!!

Hope you approve. Release date hopefully mid/late October,  still planning to have a finished resin sample on show at Midland Air Museum show end of September.

Hope you approve, P117N options to follow.....

Colin - Freightdog Models
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Martin H on September 07, 2006, 11:07:55 AM
Colin was good enought to show me the navy options at the brampton show, and i think u guys will like em
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: rallymodeller on September 07, 2006, 11:08:55 AM
QuoteCoz ALPS ones are poo-poo (with an english accent)?  Horribly dot matrixy and never look right...
Got a few ALPS decal sheets right here. Guess it's who they come from. JBOT does a bang-up job.  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on September 15, 2006, 05:09:54 AM
Sample batch of a dozen kits are onroute from Hong Kong today, I should get on monday, so all on track to show castings (minus decals) at Coventry on 24th Sept (I'm quite excited now!)
Colin - Freightdog Models

Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: NARSES2 on September 15, 2006, 07:10:38 AM
Yipeeeeee  :cheers:  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Martin H on September 15, 2006, 07:31:06 AM
thats great news Colin.
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: kitnut617 on September 15, 2006, 07:34:53 AM
Hi,

Are these all pre-ordered ?, how do I order one for myself?

:cheers: Robert
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Geoff_B on September 16, 2006, 09:30:49 AM
QuoteHi,

Are these all pre-ordered ?, how do I order one for myself?

:cheers: Robert
Rob

That initial batch is a test run so i doubt we will see any of them except as build reviews in the model mags or as examples on Colins tables at shows. AFAIK Colin is still awaiting the decals to be produced and those should coincidewith the proper delivery next month i hope.

To order just visit the Freightdog website:-

Freightdog models (http://www.freightdogproductions.com/freightdogmodels.html)

Cheers

G

(Ok Colin whats kit #03 going to be ?)
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on September 16, 2006, 03:37:05 PM
Hello Geoff,
Spot on, if postman delivers on time I'll be spending some late nights this week with the superglue to get one assembled kit as well as the parts to show at Coventry.
Kit #3? Due to some unexpected space on the decal artwork that will be an export version, including Germany, Japan and maybe some others space permitting.
Colin
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: kitnut617 on September 17, 2006, 09:23:03 AM
Quote
QuoteHi,

Are these all pre-ordered ?, how do I order one for myself?

:cheers: Robert
Rob

That initial batch is a test run so i doubt we will see any of them except as build reviews in the model mags or as examples on Colins tables at shows. AFAIK Colin is still awaiting the decals to be produced and those should coincidewith the proper delivery next month i hope.

To order just visit the Freightdog website:-

Freightdog models (http://www.freightdogproductions.com/freightdogmodels.html)

Cheers

G

(Ok Colin whats kit #03 going to be ?)
Thanks Geoff,

Colin contacted me and I've asked him to save one for me too.  It will go nicely with my TSR-2 and the earlier SR-53.

On the same line I'm really pleased that some of these very obscure aircraft are coming to light as models.  After reading Tony Buttler's books, B.S.P. and Project Cancelled,  I had wanted to build a number of them but if this trend continues maybe all I have to do is wait :rolleyes:

:cheers: Robert
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on September 18, 2006, 03:57:13 PM
Samples have arrived, and they look great!  Starting sticking resin (and fingers) this evening, fits like a dream if I say so myself.... I look forward to showing my glue and skin covered P177R at Coventry this weekend!
Colin - Freightdog Models
 
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: NARSES2 on September 19, 2006, 05:04:20 AM
Will she be at Coventry Colin ?

If the casting is anything like Arnold's most recent stuff it will be very good indeed.

Chris
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on September 19, 2006, 04:07:12 PM
QuoteWill she be at Coventry Colin ?

If the casting is anything like Arnold's most recent stuff it will be very good indeed.

Chris
Yes, I've nearly finished building one up unpainted (to show no filler needed except superglue), and will have one unbuilt also on display. The casting is very good, some minor bubbles but very fine panel lines.    
Colin  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Hobbes on September 21, 2006, 02:17:20 AM
Looking forward to seenig the kit at Coventry.  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on September 21, 2006, 03:41:13 PM
I've just posted a photo of the built up kit on my website, on the freightdog models page, for those not going to Coventry...
Colin

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freightdogproductions.com%2Ftestshot1.jpg&hash=3a5066ed9854f20848383d086cf5ff83e2072086)
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Madoc on September 21, 2006, 04:10:25 PM
Colin,

So there will be a P177R at Coventry.  Good.  Coventry. That's in England, right?  That's in the UK?  Right next to Europe?  Yeah, okay, that place.  Got it.  Good.

So... when is this kit gonna be in my hot little hands here in San Diego, California,[span style=\'font-size:21pt;line-height:100%\']USA??!!![/span]

Well??  The world wonders!

;)

Madoc
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Geoff_B on September 22, 2006, 04:53:46 AM
Madoc

The preview is at Coventry but the production kits and the decals for them are currently being produced so i expect the kit will be Officially available about mid November to co-inside with SMW at Telford.

I am quite sure that Colin will notify the forum when kits are officially avialble and ready for ordering, i would guess that Colin is awaiting receipt of kit and the decals before posting the pricing details on his site and taking orders for it just incase there are any delays.

Cheers

G
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on October 23, 2006, 01:02:43 PM
Hello,
If you want to see a painted up SR177 see here:

SR177 by Chris Tyler (http://freightdogproductions.com/177display1.jpg)

This was built by a friend of mine (his first 'whatif), I gave him the kit and told him to use his imagination,  the back story is.....

XL925 was the last of 9 prototype SR.177s. Although built to RAF
specification it was loaned to the Royal Navy Test Squadron to
evaluate the overwater performance of the radar and Red Top missile
combination as it had production standard wiring fitted. The aircraft
was based at RNAS Brawdy during 1961for easy access to the nearby
Aberporth range.

Don't be fooled by the colours, its the RAF version. This will be on my table at Telford for a closer look.
I also have the spotlight feature in the next ediction of SAMI, due out next week, and a plug in the next SAM from Mike McEvoy.
Thanks Colin
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: MartG on October 23, 2006, 01:48:04 PM
Oh, Oh, OH, YES, YES, YES !!!!



sorry...... :unsure:  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: nev on October 25, 2006, 01:48:01 AM
what he said :)
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: nev on October 27, 2006, 02:11:09 PM
There's a review of the test shot in this months SAMI.  Looks resplendent in 111 sqdn colours  :wub:  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Martin H on October 27, 2006, 03:02:43 PM
theres a pic of the review sample that SAM got in the november issue. in 92 sqn marks.

edit.  One of two built by Mike McEvoy
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on October 27, 2006, 03:22:33 PM
Here's a preview of some decal options, only one is a Lightning squadron ! -

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffreightdogproductions.com%2FBoxraf.jpg&hash=9d98a43a1986eca988719afc8fd631886213448c)

Three of the six included...
Colin
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Martin H on October 27, 2006, 03:24:59 PM
ohhh very nice
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on October 27, 2006, 03:35:37 PM
And for Navy fans.....

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffreightdogproductions.com%2FRNBox.jpg&hash=4a65dfe855291f544e8d5326dc389d58035836b3)

Sorry that one won't be ready for Telford....
Colin
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Geoff_B on October 27, 2006, 04:02:10 PM
Looking good there Colin whats the pale Blue navy bird BTW ?
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: NARSES2 on October 28, 2006, 01:32:46 AM
Looking very good Colin, and the reviews are excellent

The shark mouth version reminds me of a Hollywood cartoon character, but for life of me I can't remember which one ?

Chris
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on October 28, 2006, 07:39:51 AM
QuoteLooking good there Colin whats the pale Blue navy bird BTW ?
Hello Geoff,
Its based on a Scimitar in same colours used briefly by the RAE High Speed Flight. Serial is the Navy Prototype XL923, without radar (so blue nose cone). Likewise the FRADU version is based on a Sea Vixen that flew in those colours.
Colin
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Martin H on October 29, 2006, 01:18:30 PM
a few pics of my example as she now is.

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy22%2Fmartinhiggs%2FFreightdog177003.jpg&hash=9c01b2391d0e9e9a3b6d6ed9cb70d74ec8846654)

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy22%2Fmartinhiggs%2FFreightdog177002.jpg&hash=438084e9c9d2d89d1a21b68a552fb9496df194bb)

A very nice kit to build, gotta be one of the best (if not the best) resin kit ive built. very little filler and the detail is second to none. A fantastic effort on Colins part.

Shes marked up as a 112sqn RAF bird, the decals came from the spares box.
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: nev on October 29, 2006, 01:43:41 PM
Super!  Do we have an RRP for this baby yet?  Gunna be hard to resist picking one up at Telford...
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on October 31, 2006, 07:47:11 AM
Thanks for the kind words Martin, looks great. I hope sales are good enough to fund project number 2!!! (subject of which is as yet undecided).
Colin

Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: NARSES2 on November 01, 2006, 05:25:25 AM
Fairey FD III  :wub: please oh please ?
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: GeorgeC on November 01, 2006, 06:47:32 AM
Quick bid for the P1154!
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Geoff_B on November 01, 2006, 08:47:27 AM
QuoteQuick bid for the P1154!
We may hear news about an 1154 at Telford if we can find the right people to talk too  ;).

As for the FD-III you know who to talk to about one of them, it has been promissed for Telford  but.........
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on November 09, 2006, 02:27:10 PM
Have a look at Modelingmadness.com (http://www.modelingmadness.com) tomorrow, the SR177 kit is featured built by Scott Vanaken, a nice job using 85 sqn markings. Hope you like it, I've seen a sneak preview and he's done a pretty good build job !
Colin

 
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Mossie on November 10, 2006, 03:06:40 AM
I saw the preview build in SAMI of you test shot, the reviewer fell over himself about.  Good job Colin!

The Modelling Madness review isn't up at this moment, but I'll be clicking on the link every other minute looking for it!
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: nev on November 10, 2006, 01:28:41 PM
Here it is :)

http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/kore...mental/p177.htm (http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/korean/uk/xperimental/p177.htm)

Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Deino on November 12, 2006, 06:22:41 AM
QuoteFairey FD III  :wub: please oh please ?
.... PLEASE a Delta III[/size] !!!!


Deino  :wub:  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: MartG on November 12, 2006, 06:45:40 AM
Quote
QuoteFairey FD III  :wub: please oh please ?
.... PLEASE a Delta III[/size] !!!!


Deino  :wub:
Pwetty please...with a cherry on top :wub:  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: GeorgeC on November 22, 2006, 07:13:43 AM
Quote
QuoteQuick bid for the P1154!
We may hear news about an 1154 at Telford if we can find the right people to talk too  ;).

Any P1154 news at Telford?  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Geoff_B on November 22, 2006, 07:32:08 AM
Sort of George, the MAM one from Paul Lucas appears to have stalled over funding as the SAM Publications management are not sure of commiting to a project like this as yet. Although the situation may well have changed since we chatted with Neil & Paul late on Saturday.

Whilrybird appear rather keen to follow on their P1121 and Bristol 188 with the P1154's next year. these would be based on the original maintrack vacforms and are not likely to appear before Telford 2007. The Navalk vacform wasn't too bad but the RAF version wasn't as clever so that could do with some modification.

Cheers

Geoff
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Geoff_B on November 22, 2006, 07:34:21 AM
Quote
QuoteFairey FD III  :wub: please oh please ?
.... PLEASE a Delta III[/size] !!!!


Deino  :wub:
Please check out the Spot-On product line for the FD-III model

G :D  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Hobbes on November 22, 2006, 08:31:00 AM
Quote
Whilrybird appear rather keen to follow on their P1121 and Bristol 188 with the P1154's next year. these would be based on the original maintrack vacforms and are not likely to appear before Telford 2007. The Navalk vacform wasn't too bad but the RAF version wasn't as clever so that could do with some modification.
A Bristol 188? Cool! I'd seen the Whirlybird stand, but hadn't noticed the 188.

Do Whirlybird have a website? A Google search turns up nothing.  
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Freightdog862 on November 24, 2006, 04:37:19 AM
Brett Green at hyperscale has kindly built the kit for his site, have a look at it here:
Hyperscale preview (http://kits.kitreview.com/sr177reviewbg_1.htm)
Hopefully this will help promote the 'what-if' movement!
Don't know which version he will finish it as, I gave him a decal sheet at Telford, but the kit was built up a few weeks back before he had instructions and decals.
I also gave a review sample to Military In Scale, editor Spencer Pollard promised to built it up himself, possibly in the target drone colours. Only time will tell....  
Colin
   
Title: New kit due out soonish
Post by: Geoff_B on December 25, 2006, 03:06:20 AM
Bump

The Naval Variant should be out early in the new year  :D