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GROUP BUILDS => 2006 and Older Group Builds => The Knackers Yard => Group Build: Tophe Twin Tail Tribute => Topic started by: Tophe on May 04, 2006, 09:07:32 PM

Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Tophe on May 04, 2006, 09:07:32 PM
Looking at a nice picture on the wall, nicely sent by a friend here :) , I decided to build a plastic Sea-Vixen FAW2, and to what-if her, I planned Forward Swept Wings (FSW2, Famous Sea Wixen Mk2...) :)  I considered also a low tailplane, in titanium right behind the jet exhaust, to provide vertical thrust for STOL (PolluxD7 way, thanks... :) ).
I opened the Revell 1/72 box of mine and... problem: one frame of parts is in double, and one is lacking. :(
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2FExtra1%2Fr_122-2261_IMG.jpg&hash=9be600478c2c6634f8fe67cdc4fc252b89ce1924)
A few years ago, I would have been very sad :( , writing complaint :angry:  or something, but now I am a happy what-iffer, and I can handle the situation with a smile: :P
- which part is missing? Tailplane! All right: no tailplane, just a flying wing, with booms for the rear fins :blink:  :D
- which parts are in double? Wings! All right: this will be a X-wing freak (or >--< wing...) wiXen, yes! :wacko:  :D
Maybe in one week, it may be done...
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: GTX on May 04, 2006, 09:54:16 PM
Looking forward to seeing the result.

Regards,

Greg
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Tophe on May 06, 2006, 12:16:53 AM
One of my main problem with 1/72 planes (1/144 was not common when I bought all those kits in the 1980s-90s...) is the size which is too big :( , mainly the span. So everything that reduces span is positive for me :) . Here:
- the angle of external wings in anhedral/dihedral will reduce the horizontal span :)
- I have removed the little part of the main wing outside the booms :) on one side below:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2FExtra1%2Fr_122-2262_IMG.jpg&hash=c405bef550f117c9231ff4a95cca0b2a974632bc)
this will reduce the span by 1 inch. The X-wings can be fixed directly on the booms, that will even be more easy to attach them, and will simplify the aspect, with forward sweep for all outside the booms :)  
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Tophe on May 06, 2006, 10:21:01 AM
(In the frame of parts which is missing was not only the tailplane: also the canopy support, so this model cannot be perfect at all, just trying to provide me with a smile...)
On the way to completion: :)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2FMaquettes%2Fr_122-2265_IMG.jpg&hash=69bef8caf359d2fce603c9b0e8c36bf81ed76a00)
Still remain to glue: the low wings, then yellow paint all, then add a black canopy, and this is all. Without putty and sanding, as this is just a very quick build, not intended to be perfect, just a therapeutic way to remind me modelism is plain fun... :P
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Tophe on May 06, 2006, 08:18:57 PM
The freak is born... (thanking BlackOps' X-wing Gripen  http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...?showtopic=9567 (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=9567) once again...)
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Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Tophe on May 06, 2006, 08:19:31 PM
At last, I completed the "X-wing from front" by a "X-wing from above" layout, rather than all FSW. This is the Sea-^viXen 2, simply.
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2FMaquettes%2Fr_122-2266_IMG.jpg&hash=d4826b18d03736c54178be98eabbdea6ac5d6757)
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: BlackOps on May 06, 2006, 09:01:56 PM
Tophe, that is fantastic!  Great idea to use the Sea Vixen as an X version :)

Jeff G.
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Patrick H on May 07, 2006, 01:19:38 AM
Cool, Love the forward/backward swept wings.



:cheers:

Patrick
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Jschmus on May 07, 2006, 01:42:51 AM
Nice to see that my postcard inspired something!
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: BlackOps on May 07, 2006, 10:29:40 AM
You know I think this would also look really good with a rounded nose rather than the pointed nose. Seems like it would fit in with the aircrafts natural curves.


Jeff G.
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Tophe on May 07, 2006, 09:17:16 PM
You are very right, while this is not further what-ifing, as the Vixen was like that at first:
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.icarusbooks.com%2Fimages%2FMatthews-DH110.JPG&hash=344e4f8d4dd2024f018b374bd028e019d86de4bd)(book from http://www.icarusbooks.com/hpm.htm (http://www.icarusbooks.com/hpm.htm) )
But I will probably not do this change as my Sea-Xixen is a very-quick minimum-pain build, without putty nor sanding at all...
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: BlackOps on May 08, 2006, 07:50:29 AM
By no means did I think you should change it, just thinking out loud...And it's always good to have a minimal-pain build :)  For some reason everything I'm currently working on seems to need a ton of putty.


Jeff G.
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Tophe on May 08, 2006, 08:38:20 PM
Just the canopies remaining to paint and glue and this will be done!
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2FMaquettes%2Fr_122-2271_IMG.jpg&hash=13716a56456b9040d2d4348b1c0cb7eeede85da2)
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: BlackOps on May 08, 2006, 08:56:43 PM
Too Cool! I love the color choice :)



Jeff G.
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Tophe on May 09, 2006, 11:51:52 AM
The colour is pleasant while not completely what-if :(  see http://www.dehavilland.net/seavixen.html (http://www.dehavilland.net/seavixen.html)
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dehavilland.net%2Fsidebar%2F12.jpg&hash=4bd4dcb4f6bec2fca8bf4793ebac490ec0387bc7)
I have painted the canopy. Finishing is scheduled for tomorrow evening...
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Tophe on May 09, 2006, 12:04:17 PM
The picture above (of the Sea-Vixen) made me dream of a Zwilling Vea-Vixen Mk 2Z (below)... :wacko: :
(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv670%2FTophe2712%2FExtra1%2FViVixen.jpg&hash=34d5b44b72e8a369f5a924f8ff0feef28a872250)
The question is: as there are 2 tailplanes, this is a twin-tail plane, somehow, but as there are 4 booms, does this count as twin-tail-boom or quadruple-tail-boom?
--Tophe, the crazy twin-boom taxonomist...--
Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Tophe on May 10, 2006, 11:07:15 AM
Fi-nished... less than catastrophic with 1/4th of the parts that were missing. There is only one rudder, I know, but this is to increase asymmetry, opposite to the port canopy... :wacko:  :D
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Title: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: NARSES2 on May 11, 2006, 05:43:53 AM
I like the sci-fi look of that Tophe

Chris
Title: Re: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Pablo1965 on October 14, 2011, 01:43:07 PM
How did I miss this great idea? It  is like a british Xwing. Congratulations Tophe I´m glad to read your post, although five years later. :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: From FAW2 to FSW2
Post by: Stargazer on October 14, 2011, 04:32:04 PM
Thanks Tophe for pointing me to that amazing project! Did you ever paint it? Or were you just satisfied with building the concept?