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Picture Post => Current and Finished Projects => Topic started by: Alvis 3.1 on April 23, 2006, 08:45:36 PM

Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on April 23, 2006, 08:45:36 PM
With a bit of input from Boeing-Bell too!

I usually don't post inprogress, preferring to pop them out fully done. Why this time? No idea!
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on April 23, 2006, 08:47:23 PM
I used the Hobbycraft DASH 8 and an Italeri V22, as well as the sponsons from an ESCI V22.
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on April 23, 2006, 08:49:04 PM
I'm still not sure whose airline to do it in, but overall gloss black is calling me....




Alvis 3.1
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: BlackOps on April 23, 2006, 09:32:28 PM
Most excellent! Looks like something one of those obnoxiously rich guys would use to fly his harem off to some secluded place for brunch.

You know if you are thinking black you could pop a playboy bunny logo on it and it would be pretty sharp.

Jeff G.
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: The Rat on April 23, 2006, 09:35:39 PM
This is going to be wonderful!  :wub:  ;)  
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Tophe on April 23, 2006, 09:55:35 PM
:wub: Wonderful model, Alvis...
Just a question: in a country as huge as Canada, there is room enough for 5-miles runways, so why a VTOL liner?... I know the Dash-7 was a STOL, the CL-84 Dynavert was VTOL, but explanations would be welcome: is your Dash-9 designed for Export? is it a shuttle for steamer boats? :D  
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: elmayerle on April 23, 2006, 10:05:28 PM
Funny, I had the same idea as a collaboration of DHC and Bristol in the development of a very similar Bristol design that shows up in Stuck on the Drawing Board.  Obviously, great (or greatly twisted) minds think alike. :D
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on April 24, 2006, 02:15:35 AM
Quote:wub: Wonderful model, Alvis...
Just a question: in a country as huge as Canada, there is room enough for 5-miles runways, so why a VTOL liner?... I know the Dash-7 was a STOL, the CL-84 Dynavert was VTOL, but explanations would be welcome: is your Dash-9 designed for Export? is it a shuttle for steamer boats? :D
Canada has a very large, noisy and sometimes crowded neighbor to the south who not only has a lot of downtown airports, but also a lot of airlines who fly out of them. Yes, I DO mean Venezuela! Lol...kidding!
A lot of our aircraft do get exported, but we also do need to shuttle people from downtown airport to downtown airport, and STOL is better, even in a country as large as ours, as these airports tend to have a lot of people living close to them, so longer runways cannot be put in. Also, if you can make a good sized VTOL aircraft, it can fly off rooftops and very small areas, opening up new spots for these planes to fly from. This allows for shorter waits to take off, as you aren't sharing runway space with larger airliners.
I DO like the idea of flying it off a boat though..let me see...rich person, his own airline, likes to fly from his own boats...egads! I think I just described Donald Trump!


Alvis 3.1
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: SimonR on April 24, 2006, 04:19:50 AM
That's very cool, Alvis. How about the HLX colours:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1031519/M/ (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1031519/M/)
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Captain Canada on April 24, 2006, 04:57:39 AM
Looking good, Alvis !

I'd say go military, since somebody else here just might beat you to the finish line with a civilian version..........

Somebody...you out there ?

:P  
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Ollie on April 24, 2006, 05:48:50 AM
Excellent!

Alvis, how about the Gonzo's paint scheme?

:wub:  :wub:

Apparently Bombardier's working on a Dash 8 replacement...  Can't wait to see that!

:wub:  :wub:  
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on April 24, 2006, 07:02:39 AM
QuoteThat's very cool, Alvis. How about the HLX colours:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1031519/M/ (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1031519/M/)
Hmmm..interesting. Taxi scheme. Hmmmm.


I'd prefer to go civvie on this, as that's what the original proposals from Boeing/Dehavilland were for.
However, if I can fit a radome in there, maybe a STOLAWACS is possible...



Alvis 3.1
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: seavixen on April 24, 2006, 09:16:30 AM
I reckon the current British Airways scheme would look pretty cool on there!
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Gary on April 24, 2006, 09:52:52 AM
QuoteLooking good, Alvis !

I'd say go military, since somebody else here just might beat you to the finish line with a civilian version..........

Somebody...you out there ?

:P
Yep that someone is here. I used drop tank halves for my sponsons.

The interesting thing, the lift created by those engines is more than double the all up weight of the Dasher. That was kinda how I got started. That and I found the chord measurements were almost exactly the same and thought to my self.. self, what can I do with this?

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whatifmodelers.com%2Fforum%2Fuploads%2Fpost-2-1121792460.jpg&hash=3ccc74f030da0f1f9c2a6956fcd27d171cdbd50b)
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Captain Canada on April 24, 2006, 09:58:40 AM
Quotethought to my self.. self, what can I do with this?

At least you weren't troubling us with you're thinking out loud again !

;)

Is that as far as you are, Gary ? Or is that an old pic ?

:wub:  
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Gary on April 24, 2006, 10:02:47 AM
Old pic. Primer chewed the hellout of her and when I feel like swearing a lot I drag her out and sand.
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on April 24, 2006, 10:37:30 AM
QuoteOld pic. Primer chewed the hellout of her and when I feel like swearing a lot I drag her out and sand.
Wow...that sucks mightily!
I was working along the lines of using drop tanks or summat like that when I got an Esci V22 for cheap, and the sponsons are seperate parts on it. Several V22s have died recently in the Bashment O' Doom as donors for the wings/engines. I now have, umm..3 or 4 V22 fuselages waiting for usage. Any hints?
When Boeing bought up DeHavilland in the early/mid 80s, they produced some artwork of Dash 8/V22 hybrids. The idea has percolated about for ages. I've no idea why it suddenly became a top project. Chalk it up to the random nature of my building patterns.


Alvis 3.1
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: B777LR on April 24, 2006, 11:37:23 AM
Ive spotted a problem!  B)  How will you fit those long landing gears?  :P  
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Gary on April 24, 2006, 11:48:34 AM
QuoteI was working along the lines of using drop tanks or summat like that when I got an Esci V22 for cheap, and the sponsons are seperate parts on it. Several V22s have died recently in the Bashment O' Doom as donors for the wings/engines. I now have, umm..3 or 4 V22 fuselages waiting for usage. Any hints?
Well, you know the wings for a dasher fit nicely on the V-22. Before the fit hit the shan I had intended to strap on the wings and engines with some heafter props to make a nicely chunky C-22. The thoughts were all going along great untill an errant tennis ball cam sailing into my office and struck a tin of lacquer thinner on the open remenants of the 22. I purchased a second 22 with the goal of completingthe project but there was something attractive about a peice of crap Mig 21 from KP I had, the Dash 8 narrow chord wings and a backstory about Francis Gary Powers and his U2. I ended up selling the second V-22 at a loss 'cause I'm stupid.
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on April 24, 2006, 01:24:03 PM
Quote
QuoteI was working along the lines of using drop tanks or summat like that when I got an Esci V22 for cheap, and the sponsons are seperate parts on it. Several V22s have died recently in the Bashment O' Doom as donors for the wings/engines. I now have, umm..3 or 4 V22 fuselages waiting for usage. Any hints?
Well, you know the wings for a dasher fit nicely on the V-22. Before the fit hit the shan I had intended to strap on the wings and engines with some heafter props to make a nicely chunky C-22. The thoughts were all going along great untill an errant tennis ball cam sailing into my office and struck a tin of lacquer thinner on the open remenants of the 22. I purchased a second 22 with the goal of completingthe project but there was something attractive about a peice of crap Mig 21 from KP I had, the Dash 8 narrow chord wings and a backstory about Francis Gary Powers and his U2. I ended up selling the second V-22 at a loss 'cause I'm stupid.
Ummmm...oh crud!

In progress pics on THAT one to follow...
Creepy..similar sick minds syndrome running full speed apparently!



Alvis 3.1
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: The Rat on April 24, 2006, 03:40:05 PM
Oh well, if two of you are going to work that way the I have no choice but to go the Rotodyne route with the one I buy.  ^_^  
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: elmayerle on April 25, 2006, 02:14:54 AM
Actually, there's three of us as I'm gathering parts for a Dash-8/V-22 cross myself with the extra Dash-8 engines and gear going for an upgraded Rotodyne.
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: The Rat on April 25, 2006, 03:34:39 AM
QuoteActually, there's three of us as I'm gathering parts for a Dash-8/V-22 cross myself with the extra Dash-8 engines and gear going for an upgraded Rotodyne.
Okay, so I would be in the middle of all of you.

Perhaps I should rephrase that...  :wacko:  
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Captain Canada on April 25, 2006, 05:23:02 AM
I've got a similar 'half start'. I should end up finishing her once we move.....same old song and dance, eh ?

It's a DHC Caribou with V-22 wings and engines. I guess it'll be the military version of Gary and Alvis' birds.

Probably be RCN, to go along with my RCN AEW 'bou.

:ar:  
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on April 25, 2006, 09:32:28 AM
Wow...accidental group build?



:D

Alvis 3.1
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Sentinel Chicken on April 25, 2006, 09:44:18 AM
There's really only one suitable livery I'd go with:

(https://www.whatifmodellers.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postcardpost.com%2Fca228.jpg&hash=cb4cf2421a6b7064d1f92e68a950cc29005fbd37)

I remember in the early 1980s (I think) when City Express flew Dash 7s into Toronto Island Airport. Quite a sight to be on the harbor ferry to Centre Island when these birds were coming and going!
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: Alvis 3.1 on April 25, 2006, 10:37:59 AM
Nah, I'll pass for two reasons: one, I'm lazy and thats too hard to paint
And Two: it looks like a gypsy grandmother exploded on it!
yuuuch!


Alvis 3.1
Title: Dehavilland Dash 9
Post by: waynos on April 25, 2006, 02:10:29 PM
Given what it is, and something that might have happened 40+ years ago, and the way I am generally, I'd be tempted to paint it in BEA red square livery if it was mine. (and I sooo wish it was!!!)